It really hasn't, it was everywhere when I was in high school which was less than a decade ago now
Matt Damon Says He stopped Saying the F-slur After His Daughter Explained Why It's Dangerous
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Now we going to tell people they aren't learning soon enough? I mean yeah he's late as shit but it's better that at least he learned to stop being a fucking idiot now compared to never. We can't expect everyone to learn at the same pace as progressive people.
Yikes. I mean, about a minimum of two decades too late ... but I do live in a fairly progressive city and in somewhat of a progressive bubble, so, I don't know. Does he live in Arkansas and talk to nobody?
I guess better late than never. I saw Stillwater last night and it's one of his greatest performances. The PR around this film though, yikes.
I guess better late than never. I saw Stillwater last night and it's one of his greatest performances. The PR around this film though, yikes.
Not gonna roast a person for learning and admitting what they'd done was wrong. Good on him, but especially his daughter.
Sad. Well I guess I did a good enough job of eliminating these people from my life early on.
part of it is that he's, for some god unknown reason, announcing it as if it's some accomplishment* to realize a homophobic slur is a homophobic slur in 2021, and part of it is that he tries to play it off that it "meant something different when he was younger" and it 100% did not.
*but i guess he's on to something given that people in this thread are ready to applaud him for doing the absolute honest to god bare minimum of not saying slurs
I definitely agree with that. Broadcasting this in 2021 like it is some sort of accomplishment is really fucking weird. This is like when Liam Neeson announced he used to be a racist while promoting his movie. Like just keep some of this shit to yourself.
Eh, just a dumb joke on my part. It's a relatively uncommon word and he used it twice in one paragraph like he just learned it or something.
I know there's a more important topic at hand here.
Funny to imagine what sorts of adolescent conversations he's having at his age where this even comes up. He's like "I gotta figure out a different way to make fun of my friends. By the way I'm in my 50s."
The thing of it still being prevalent in high schools isn't too surprising. Between relishing the opportunities to say shitty things + homophobia among adolescents (and an inflated sense of the "nuance" they're using), I imagine high school will be the last holdout for the term. But Damon graduated high school like 30+ years ago and among adults it's definitely been a known thing for decades. That's willfully holding out on his part. Though like others said, least he came around eventually. Sure looks stupid here though.
The thing of it still being prevalent in high schools isn't too surprising. Between relishing the opportunities to say shitty things + homophobia among adolescents (and an inflated sense of the "nuance" they're using), I imagine high school will be the last holdout for the term. But Damon graduated high school like 30+ years ago and among adults it's definitely been a known thing for decades. That's willfully holding out on his part. Though like others said, least he came around eventually. Sure looks stupid here though.
What's with the old? As if younger people don't use hate language.
I can appreciate his honesty, even if he's a bit late.
Todd Glass has had a few rants about stuff like this and I think this one is pretty good.
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Todd Glass has had a few rants about stuff like this and I think this one is pretty good.
Todd Glass on "faggy" and "gay"
This is a couple clips taken from Todd's recent appearance on Marc Maron's WTF podcast (http://www.wtfpod.com/). I decided to post this separately because ...
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I have a feeling he wasn't using it commonly just used it recently and got called out.
lol no.
It seems that everybody that's called out for using it always says that they didn't mean it that way or that it was joke. But EVERYBODY damn well knew the full implication of that word as homophobic slur when you weren't joking around with friends. Everybody always knew that it's a homophobic slur and knew the people that were the intended targets of that slur. You understood that before 2021. Just because you may have never intentionally called a gay person that slur doesn't make it any less of a homophobic slur.
Anyways glad he stopped. But surprised he just stopped in 2021 AND it took his own daughter to call him out on it. But still, glad he decided to change rather than be stubborn about it.
This dude was still saying it up till a few months ago? And admitted it? No self awareness lmao
Good on his daughter at least
Good on his daughter at least
Did he set up this interview to discuss only this?
Journalists are gonna milk every word from interviews for stories
I don't think he's expecting praise here
I think some of you would be surprised at how the changes on these things haven't permeated in redder areas of the country the way it perhaps has in your social circles or more liberal areas.
The very IDEA that homophobic slurs (and or the nonsensical reasoning damon implies in this article) have been for the better part 'defeated' for 15 years or so is absolutely not the reality everywhere in the country folks. We are a long way from the finish line on that. Like, seriously.
Let this be made public for the off chance that it helps more people make that progress, even if its late by someone else's (or even just reasonable) standards.
The very IDEA that homophobic slurs (and or the nonsensical reasoning damon implies in this article) have been for the better part 'defeated' for 15 years or so is absolutely not the reality everywhere in the country folks. We are a long way from the finish line on that. Like, seriously.
Let this be made public for the off chance that it helps more people make that progress, even if its late by someone else's (or even just reasonable) standards.
Someone called him out, he listened, learned and changed. Cool story bro. Probably could've kept this in the back pocket forever but I guess if this makes Matt Damon fan #239 still using that term derogatorily or as a joke in their world re-think what they say and really inspect it then I guess this story served a purpose.
Damn, I was a teen in the 90s, but I was never comfortable using the F slur. Gay as an insult and the r word I used quite a bit then. I retired gay as a insult in like, 2001 and the r word in 2003ish.
Come on Matt.
Come on Matt.
I mean, he is admitting to changing for the better and it isn't some hollow apology after a heated gamer moment or something. A smart person would have omitted the "months ago" part. But, whatever.
Depends where you grew up, in the UK when I was growing up it was used a lot in a more playful way when children were misbehaving, with a similar meaning to 'sod', my mum used to call me a "cheeky f****t" all the time. The word is also used for a kind of meatball and the shortened version is more commonly used for cigarettes in the UK.
Picturing any grown-ass adult using that word is so fucking cringe. Even back when it was more common place, it always felt like a word that should be dropped from one's vocabulary at about the age of 15.
I am completely unsurprised that a celebrity would be behind on things like this. They're mostly surrounded by yay-sayers and sycophantic fans who will never correct them, so them being schooled by their kids, who actually live in (a fancy version of) the real world and don't mind giving them shit is probably pretty common.
He also says in that same interview we need to sit down and listen to trump voters cos we might be closer than we think.
The amount of it's 2021 post in here is kind of shocking. Maybe you guys have insulated yourselves pretty well but society is racist and homophobic as fuck. I've worked/been around people who have no problem using that term and I'm 95% sure their dropping n bombs when I'm not around.
Good on his daughter. Wild that it's this late, but also good that he learned and broadcast his education.
Maybe shouldn't have tossed in the "months" part, but hey.
Also correct. I think that people both overestimate and underestimate how bigoted the world is. Overestimate because things have certainly gotten better.
Underestimate because people seem to think that everyone perceives language like this in the same way as themselves or their internet friends.
Maybe shouldn't have tossed in the "months" part, but hey.
Also correct. I think that people both overestimate and underestimate how bigoted the world is. Overestimate because things have certainly gotten better.
Underestimate because people seem to think that everyone perceives language like this in the same way as themselves or their internet friends.
