Yeah. I would have much more confidence in Hundred Star Games (the new Walker & Hill studio) doing it than current Rocksteady.
Do we know what type of games they plan on making? Could be someone to keep an eye on
I still think it's really tragic that a side game that started development after the MMO was the only thing to make it out the door before the whole thing collapsed.
Did Warner have no dev team free in 2019 to do an Aquaman game after that movie made a billion dollars
I mean honestly what did they expect? They took a studio that made great Single player action games and basically told them to cook up a "diversity" pleasing game. Sometimes studios need to find a set of niches and stick to those - it's what made FromSoftware great.
I imagine development cost for SS was way bigger than Hogwarts, and by steam stats it barely sold anything
Lol forget Fortnite exists outside of licensing characters and locales too epic is something every big AAA dev team should be screaming at their bosses
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Sad to see but this result was obvious. SS has been driven into the ground, along with using DCs beloved superheroes as villains for years now. The fans are tired of this, work on games with characters people actually want to play as. This is why there was no hype or excitement for this, just another DC thing where the heroes are villains. It's not fucking novel when you constantly to push it. You know what's novel? How about their heroes are just heroes and you can play as them?
Seeing how they didn't put a team straight on Wonder Woman after her movie, it just shows that they don't pay attention to the market.
VGC has reported that WBD's CEO David Zaslav "has singled out Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League as the reason for underwhelming Q1 results for its entire Studios division." This is incredible to me that the release of just one video game caused "underwhelming" financial results for an entire division of WBD:
www.videogameschronicle.com
Warner Bros CEO says ‘disappointing’ Suicide Squad release ‘overshadowed’ its overall Studios financials | VGC
Kill the Justice League had an underwhelming launch…
www.videogameschronicle.com
Technically it was the release of two games. On the other end Hogwarts selling so much last year made Suicide Squad underperforming that much worse.
I don't understand how that wouldn't have been an expectation for the year over year in their gaming division, there was no way SS was ever going to perform anywhere near what Hogwarts did.
VGC has reported that WBD's CEO David Zaslav "has singled out Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League as the reason for underwhelming Q1 results for its entire Studios division." This is incredible to me that the release of just one video game caused "underwhelming" financial results for an entire division of WBD:
Warner Bros CEO says ‘disappointing’ Suicide Squad release ‘overshadowed’ its overall Studios financials | VGC
Kill the Justice League had an underwhelming launch…
The title is not exactly correct though. The underwhelming results is comparing revenue to the previous year.
The main contention point is the difference of the insane profits of the wizard game versus the presumed loss on Suicide Squad.
So from that standpoint, it's something majorly in the positive versus something majorly in the negative. And I doubt their previous forecasts even accounted for Suicide Squad being a potential loss.
They might get to finish another game, one that'll never release.
As long as it's a first person battle royal!
Strike while the iron's hot.
I can see Rocksteady getting the axe shortly and that fucking sucks. If WB is smart, they would sell them instead. Also, this makes me fear so fucking much for Monolith.
Knowing Zaslav if Rocksteady is in trouble, which they shouldn't be given their Arkham trilogy, they will at least be sold and not shuttered. It's not as if you'd get the IP with them anyway, but at a minimum maybe you could get a deal on a DC game.
IGN: Failure of Suicide Squad Kill the Justice has Contributed to a $200 Million Hit to WB Gaming Revenue
https://www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-flop-leads-to-200-million-impairment-charge-warner-bros-confirms
www.resetera.com
I wonder who would even buy them despite their pedigree right now. Everyone's wallets seem to be closed for the near future
Only layoffs would be a best case scenario at this point for Rocksteady
There's 150 people playing this on Steam currently. I don't think the failure can be understated.
IGN: Failure of Suicide Squad Kill the Justice has Contributed to a $200 Million Hit to WB Gaming Revenue
https://www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-flop-leads-to-200-million-impairment-charge-warner-bros-confirms
www.resetera.com
You're not wrong, but anything to get them on their feet. Who knows, maybe sell them to Sony and make them a new Insomniac studio.
I don't condone one console maker to get them, as everyone should play their games, but it's an idea.
It's amazing how clueless some of these execs are; though I guess Warner's video game division is a special situation since it's a rare video game business with TV/Movie execs above the business (of course all they can think of is blockbusters like Warner greenlighting another 2 LOTR movies).
They'll try to milk Hogwarts for all its worth (and it's true there's still probably plenty of money to wring out of that tree), but if that fails or the well runs dry; everybody in gaming there should be scared because they can easily pull a Disney and just cut the whole thing down while licensing IPs outside with investments into outside gaming co's.
isn't he just saying what everybody else here would also say or what common sense would tell you?
i downloaded the trial on PS5, saw it was on deep sale recently and thought next time I'd get it, looked fun to play and maybe the story would be good
the trial is the first three hours and I'm not sure i want to play after the hour or so i gave it, i understood all the criticisms, amazed that studio put it out and after that long a wait
my partner is a HP nut but not a gamer so i ended up playing Legacy and honestly i really liked it as a game, i don't care for that universe less still it's creator obviously, but i can see why it did as well as it did
easy saying make good games and they sell but there had to have been a point where they knew they were on to something with Legacy and knew Suicide Squad was just not good, if they'd made it smaller scope and free to play and see how it did then maybe it would've found an audience with the mechanics and loop but it's a bit of a Frankenstein such as it is, hopefully Rocksteady is able to weather the failure and get to do something new
the trial is the first three hours and I'm not sure i want to play after the hour or so i gave it, i understood all the criticisms, amazed that studio put it out and after that long a wait
my partner is a HP nut but not a gamer so i ended up playing Legacy and honestly i really liked it as a game, i don't care for that universe less still it's creator obviously, but i can see why it did as well as it did
easy saying make good games and they sell but there had to have been a point where they knew they were on to something with Legacy and knew Suicide Squad was just not good, if they'd made it smaller scope and free to play and see how it did then maybe it would've found an audience with the mechanics and loop but it's a bit of a Frankenstein such as it is, hopefully Rocksteady is able to weather the failure and get to do something new
At some point, somebody at Warner is going to say "why don't we just do what Disney did? License out DC, Hogwarts, etc. and take ~20-25% of the revenue from gaming sales with 0 risk to ourselves. Look at Spiderman."
Put all the risk of failure on the outside developers/publishers. Sure you don't keep as much profit, but you keep a giant chunk (perhaps upwards to half), and even if a game fails, you still have a small positive to show for it...
You may not get quite the highs of Legacy (perhaps only 40% of the profit of doing it all in-house), but you don't have ugly misses like this that can tank the whole video game business.
Put all the risk of failure on the outside developers/publishers. Sure you don't keep as much profit, but you keep a giant chunk (perhaps upwards to half), and even if a game fails, you still have a small positive to show for it...
You may not get quite the highs of Legacy (perhaps only 40% of the profit of doing it all in-house), but you don't have ugly misses like this that can tank the whole video game business.
The fact that they had a huge success like legacy makes me think they'll gamble for another one a bit longer.
