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Tbone5189

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June, according to the Capcom leaks. Unless it gets delayed.

Man I did my H1 prediction already and I'm predicting H2 to be up by a lot. Still early but software releases looking good.

Is this correct???
Q2

Story of Seasons (May?)
Rune Factory (May?)
MHS2 (June Rumor)
NPS (Apr 30)

Am I missing any big games? (Like 200k+ sellers)
 

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June, according to the Capcom leaks. Unless it gets delayed.

I think it was July from the leak.

In the 2020 vs 2021 fight I think COVID will continue to be a main factor, cases are spiking as never before in Japan.

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Taurus

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Jun 15, 2018
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Switch doing Switch things it seems right from the beginning of the new year.

The frog joke posts have not aged terribly well considering he posts on the other place now...
I went to check and of course he dropped the mask there and stopped pretending being just an enthusiast Sony fan, as expected he was just your typical console warrior in disguise trying to bring toxicity in these threads, good riddance
Holy shit, I had to check myself and found these for example:

If the next DQ launches on ps5/switch day 1 that's the best outcome for all. Superior version on ps5 for PlayStation fans and weaker version on switch for those who can't afford or find a ps5 in stock. And a pc release a year or two later.

Xbox doesn't deserve the devs wasting time on it unless MS open their cheque book. I've been calling it for years, they won't be competitive in japan this gen despite our sales experts stating otherwise. Kerotan vindicated!
The last thing we want are games especially AAA going exclusive to weak ass hardware. It's a cool portable device and all but us big boys with our big boy hardware expect big boy games!
This is just class A trolling. I seriously have to up my game. But yeah, I think the old/sad place is right for him.
 

Kakadu18

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Dec 31, 2020
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Man I did my H1 prediction already and I'm predicting H2 to be up by a lot. Still early but software releases looking good.

Is this correct???
Q2

Story of Seasons (May?)
Rune Factory (May?)
MHS2 (June Rumor)
NPS (Apr 30)

Am I missing any big games? (Like 200k+ sellers)
Story of Seasons is February 25th.
 

Delusibeta

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 26, 2017
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Man I did my H1 prediction already and I'm predicting H2 to be up by a lot. Still early but software releases looking good.

Is this correct???
Q2

Story of Seasons (May?)
Rune Factory (May?)
MHS2 (June Rumor)
NPS (Apr 30)

Am I missing any big games? (Like 200k+ sellers)
Story of Seasons is in February (in Japan, March in the West).
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just to be clear, the game looks way better than any other Pokemon game ever did. Bamco did an excelent job in the visuals and animations.
The budget has to be higher than for Sw/Sh and iz's not rushed and the original was very popular.

I see it selling better in the west, but a million in Japan is still possible.
500k is my minimum expectation for Japan and 5mil ww first year with the potential for 10mil down the line.

I never played the original, but this looks like a relaxed and casual game that could be popular among the people who got a Switch for AC and still move a lot of hardware.

Or it could sell just 3-4mil lifetime and be considered a small success.

I don't know if it's blinded optimism or you are just clueless but you should take a deep breath and think/search/study about... a lot of things regarding videogames and sales before dropping random thoughts/predictions like that.

It's like your 33M prediction for Switch, you're basically throwing a number out of nowhere and then thinking backwards or how that prediction could make sense with yearly sales prediction, it should be the opposite, trying to guess how it will fare year after year with varying degree of confidence (which will be lower as you get further into the future) and only predict a final range from there.

Of course guess should be based on assumptions (line-up, new models, pricedrop, successor release...) and also by looking how things already happened in the past, because no matter how "different" it is this time, trends are bound to be similar one way or another
 

Tbone5189

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PokeSmash - 6986k vs ACNH - 6517k


Gap Currently - 469k


Updated Week

W1: 2603k - 1880k
W2: 827k - 728k
W3: 700k - 423k
W4: 456k - 293k
W5: 498k - 286k
W6: 351k - 284k
W7: 289k - 260k
W8: 234k - 195k
W9: 105k - 130k
W10: 84k - 102k
W11: 66k - 102k
W12: 50k - 98k
W13: 47k - 77k
W14: 48k - 74k
W15: 38k - 70k
W16: 45k - 53k
W17: 40k - 56k
W18: 33k - 72k
W19: 29k - 94k
W20: 26k - 57k
W21: 25k - 108k
W22: 33k - 106k
W23: 18k - 43k
W24: 17k - 34k
W25: 16k - 32k
W26: 17k - 31k
W27: 12k- 32k
W28: 14k - 30k
W29: 14k - 36k
W30: 16k - 37k
W31: 16k - 23k
W32: 18k - 24k
W33: 18k - 32k
W34: 16k - 32k
W35: 18k - 37k
W36: 20k - 35k
W37: 26k - 57k
W38: 17k - 71k
W39: 19k - 95k
W40: 24k - 108k
W41: 18k - 94k
W42: 20k - 45k
W43: 20k
W44: 15k
W45: 14k
 

Arynio

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can Switch overtakes 3DS this FY?

Yeah, February is a safe bet.

What's our forecast for Snap? It did 94k FW/495k LTD on N64 at a vastly different time.
Gonna go with a 150k opening to 400k LTD for now. Similar to PMD DX.

In the Instagram age, a Pokémon photography game has large potential IMO. I don't think this game will appeal only to nostalgic fans of the original. If it's good, it should outperform the original.

Big blow for #Team2020.

Hahahaha!
 

Tbone5189

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W#: RFA Y1 — RFA Y2

W01: 68.5k — 27.3k
W02: 64.1k — 23.1k
W03: 51.2k — 29.1k
W04: 52.2k — 37.2k
W05: 28.0k — 24.1k
W06: 26.2k — 36.0k
W07: 22.3k — 40.2k
W08: 16.1k — 49.8k
W09: 57.8k - 58.6k
W10: 56.9k - 70.7k
W11: 52.5k - 44.3k
W12: 30.4k
W13: 21.5k

Cur: 495.7k — 440.4k


Tot: 547.6k —


⭐ Bonus ⭐

RFA Year 1

(W01-13) 547.6k [Weekly 42.1k]
(W14-26) 215.3k [Weekly 16.6k]
(W27-39) 374.2k [Weekly 28.8k]
(W40-52) 531.8k [Weekly 40.9k]
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Redemption or salvation ( pick the more suited word) path starts for PS5 starts on January 21st with REVII

Unless REVIII cloud version on Switch happens at the same time and sucks some of the energy from it.

I don't know when it's supposed to launch though. I guess we'll find out in a week (also find out if it actually exists yet).
 

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Unless REVIII cloud version on Switch happens at the same time and sucks some of the energy from it.

I don't know when it's supposed to launch though. I guess we'll find out in a week (also find out if it actually exists yet).
Capcom has fast release dates with their RE games, I think the latest would be May, if Covid hit them hard enough.
 

Kakadu18

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I don't know if it's blinded optimism or you are just clueless but you should take a deep breath and think/search/study about... a lot of things regarding videogames and sales before dropping random thoughts/predictions like that.

It's like your 33M prediction for Switch, you're basically throwing a number out of nowhere and then thinking backwards or how that prediction could make sense with yearly sales prediction, it should be the opposite, trying to guess how it will fare year after year with varying degree of confidence (which will be lower as you get further into the future) and only predict a final range from there.

Of course guess should be based on assumptions (line-up, new models, pricedrop, successor release...) and also by looking how things already happened in the past, because no matter how "different" it is this time, trends are bound to be similar one way or another
I didn't just throw out the 33mil number and then thought backwards, that number was already the result I got when adding yearly numbers I thought were realistic and then just posted the endresult.
 

Arynio

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Oct 27, 2017
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Unless REVIII cloud version on Switch happens at the same time and sucks some of the energy from it.

I don't know when it's supposed to launch though. I guess we'll find out in a week (also find out if it actually exists yet).

REVII Cloud version for Switch already exists in Japan IIRC.
 

slorelli

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Nov 1, 2017
1,160
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I think Switch 2021 will stay ahead of Switch 2020 until the AC release date. What happens next is hard to say because although there won't be a single game as popular in 2021, there will be a lot of titles that can together make the switch sell more.

I believe it will be 2020 > 2021 > 2019 > 2018 > 2017 because AC gathers to a very different market and the big 2021 games are more traditional in gameplay and target.
I agree with this but think they could surpass 2020 with the right combo of hard core and mainstream games.

Hardcore:

Metroid Prime Trilogy - happening
New 2D Metroid- rumored
BOTW 2 - if not delayed

Mainstream:
Mario 3D World/BF - 10 mill plus seller I'd guess.
Pokemon Snap- has the potential to be huge with casuals.
Rumored DK game - hit or miss but strong fan base.
Wildcard - New 2D Mario- this can go punch for punch with AC.
 

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I agree with this but think they could surpass 2020 with the right combo of hard core and mainstream games.

Hardcore:

Metroid Prime Trilogy - happening
New 2D Metroid- rumored
BOTW 2 - if not delayed

Mainstream:
Mario 3D World/BF - 10 mill plus seller I'd guess.
Pokemon Snap- has the potential to be huge with casuals.
Rumored DK game - hit or miss but strong fan base.
Wildcard - New 2D Mario- this can go punch for punch with AC.
Metroid games don't sell, much less sell console.
 

activepassive

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Oct 28, 2017
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Is it possible that the Switch outsells the DS?

Doing a very brief historical analysis, I'd say it actually is if the Switch has the same length in terms of lifecycle.

The DS was available for 6 years and 3 months before the 3DS went on the market. It sold 33 million.

If the Switch has the same amount of time, it's lifecycle would extend through June of 2023. If it can maintain 6 million yearly total the next two years, it would be at roughly 30 million by January 2023.

The DSi came out roughly 4 years into the DS lifecycle. It didn't set the market on fire like the DS Lite did, but it did sell 6 million units. We are coming up on the 4-year mark with the Switch, so if the pro actually comes to fruition, it really should be soon. If it is soon, then the Switch has a really shot at outselling the DS.

I know there are a million unknown factors and it is unlikely, but I feel like Nintendo also almost needs the Switch to do that well because they are, for the first time in over 30 years, down to one console.
 

Kakadu18

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I agree with this but think they could surpass 2020 with the right combo of hard core and mainstream games.

Hardcore:

Metroid Prime Trilogy - happening
New 2D Metroid- rumored
BOTW 2 - if not delayed

Mainstream:
Mario 3D World/BF - 10 mill plus seller I'd guess.
Pokemon Snap- has the potential to be huge with casuals.
Rumored DK game - hit or miss but strong fan base.
Wildcard - New 2D Mario- this can go punch for punch with AC.
BotW 2 is basically mainstream with the sales of BotW.
 

slorelli

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Nov 1, 2017
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Metroid games don't sell, much less sell console.
In the past I would agree with you. Recently Nintendo has turned everything into gold. I never thought Zelda would ever flirt with 20 mill, and its going to do it. I think Metroid has the potential, especially with the resurgence of Metroidvania in the indie space.
 

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What I feel about Pokemon is that the main thing is battles, moves, balancing and the creatures themselves, that most take a lot of time, but GF can remedy that. Hire a team that focuses on the world and they focus on the other things. Honestly, a Pokemon region designed and made by Monotith Soft is my dream.
 

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Something that would've sell more than what they released in the last quarter, in this case, anything lol.


Yes im curious to know that "something"

Games are getting delayed left right and center Covid has screwed up pretty much every schedules

Among them First Party DS and Spiderman were still titles whose predecessors did decent in JP

Both Titles got hamstrucked by the Hardware.
 
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I don't see anything at Pokemon Snap trailer that screams high budget to me. It's a typical outsourced mid budget spin off.
 

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Yes im curious to know that "something"

Games are getting delayed left right and center Covid has screwed up pretty much every schedules

Among them First Party DS and Spiderman were still titles whose predecessors did decent in JP

Both Titles got hamstrucked by the Hardware.
I mean, they money hata ot of things, would it be so hard for them to release or partner with a game that Japanese likes? I just feel that Sony is "ashamed" and don't mud their image with smaller games.
 
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No. But you can look at number of staff and years the project has been running to get an idea.

It also makes no sense to budget a spinoff with limited sales potential higher than your mainline games which are your bread and better.
They don't really seem to budget the mainline games, who sell 10-15 million in like 2 months, highly though

And this is their second HD Pokemon game, TPC handled this spin-off anyway.
 
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Tbone5189

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Is it possible that the Switch outsells the DS?

Doing a very brief historical analysis, I'd say it actually is if the Switch has the same length in terms of lifecycle.

The DS was available for 6 years and 3 months before the 3DS went on the market. It sold 33 million.

If the Switch has the same amount of time, it's lifecycle would extend through June of 2023. If it can maintain 6 million yearly total the next two years, it would be at roughly 30 million by January 2023.

The DSi came out roughly 4 years into the DS lifecycle. It didn't set the market on fire like the DS Lite did, but it did sell 6 million units. We are coming up on the 4-year mark with the Switch, so if the pro actually comes to fruition, it really should be soon. If it is soon, then the Switch has a really shot at outselling the DS.

I know there are a million unknown factors and it is unlikely, but I feel like Nintendo also almost needs the Switch to do that well because they are, for the first time in over 30 years, down to one console.

Join Team2021 and become a "Switch will surpass DS" Believer 😉