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Media Create Sales: Week 4, 2019 (Jan 21 - Jan 27)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Prime 4 is going to have a very long dev cycle and will likely be one of the most expensive games Nintendo has ever produced.
Prime likely suffered through some turmoils with RETRO starting off, 2 and 3 likely less so
Ah my mistake, I assumed tracking was similar to other regions, where more of the market is represented.
Lol, the methodology for digital estimates is even worse than I thought though.
Can't believe this is a real conversation in an MC thread in 2019.
Fallout 76 was above Hitman 2 in its second week (Fallout 76 was #3 and Hitman 2 wasn't even in the top 20). We have no idea if the Hitman 2 PSN store ranking includes Hitman 2: Prologue (but it really seems like it does). That would certainly explain the disparency because why else would Hitman 2 go from #1 one week to not even in the top 20 the next week? This is way too ambiguous to use as evidence of unreliability.
Prime 2 was the best looking console game of all time when it was released, IDK.
Prime 1 was the best looking game of all time when it was released.
Don't think these technical masterpieces were made super cheaply.
Prime 1 was the best looking game of all time when it was released.
Don't think these technical masterpieces were made super cheaply.
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When I get home. You'll see Famitsu discovered time traveling with these polls.
It doesn't even matter. 57% is way beyond what you need to accurately project the rest of the market as long as the sample is random/has no bias. At that percentage, unless your market is very very specialized and compartmentalized/few stores cover the whole market and you dont track a few major ones its gonna be really fucking hard to not pick a representative sample.
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Bravely Default: For the Sequel
Physical release was at {2013.12.05} with digital coming out 2 months later at {2014.02.01}
When Famitsu posted combined top 30 for Dec 2013 {2013.12.02 - 2014.01.05} digital sales should be zero, right? Nope they were 15.777.
Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu
Physical release was at {2014.11.20} with digital coming out 2 weeks later at {2014.12.04}
When Famitsu posted combined top 30 for Nov 2014 {2014.10.27 - 2014.11.23} digital sales should be zero, right? Nope they were 439.
We must find how Famitsu estimates these sales from the future.
Physical release was at {2013.12.05} with digital coming out 2 months later at {2014.02.01}
When Famitsu posted combined top 30 for Dec 2013 {2013.12.02 - 2014.01.05} digital sales should be zero, right? Nope they were 15.777.
Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu
Physical release was at {2014.11.20} with digital coming out 2 weeks later at {2014.12.04}
When Famitsu posted combined top 30 for Nov 2014 {2014.10.27 - 2014.11.23} digital sales should be zero, right? Nope they were 439.
We must find how Famitsu estimates these sales from the future.
Wrong about Bravely Default.
Check carefully before you use a sarcasm.
Dengeki
January (December 31st to January 27th, so 4 weeks in total):
Fiscal Year (as of January): market down by 12.2% to 304.4 billion Yen. They hope February and March will go back up, but, heh...
Top 5 Software for January 2019:
Also, they don't seem too happy about impact of new releases on PS4 sales this week.
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/872/1872747/
January (December 31st to January 27th, so 4 weeks in total):
- Hardware: 750 000 units (-6.3% Year on Year) / 23.1 billion Yen (-1.5%)
- Software: 3 450 000 units (-9.4% Year on Year) / 23.3 billion Yen (-13.4%)
- Total: 46.4 billion Yen (-7.8%)
Fiscal Year (as of January): market down by 12.2% to 304.4 billion Yen. They hope February and March will go back up, but, heh...
Top 5 Software for January 2019:
- [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III (Square-Enix)
- [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) - 440 000 units
- [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) - 330 000 units
- [PS4] Resident Evil 2 (Capcom) - 240 000 units
- [PS4] Ace Combat 7 (Bandai-Namco) - 220 000 units
Also, they don't seem too happy about impact of new releases on PS4 sales this week.
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/872/1872747/
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bravely default for the sequel wasn't available on launch at eshop . the one available back in december 2013 was the update pack for the original bravely default flying fairy owners.
so famitsu "estimate" for that game is misleading
so famitsu "estimate" for that game is misleading
It's normal for people want to have a more accurate picture of how much a game is actually selling, especially when digital sales probably aren't the same flat percentage for every game. Of course, Famitsu's estimates don't seem to be that. It's too bad we don't have accurate numbers.
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Why does your list of releases only include multiplat titles on the Switch side? (Onimusha, Okami, etc).
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Why does your list of releases only include multiplat titles on the Switch side? (Onimusha, Okami, etc).
I would also like more accurate digital estimate tracking, and I agree sometimes an idea of what could be selling can tell me more in lieu of official numbers if the methodology is sound.
But the defense I'm seeing for Famitsu's digital estimates just seems really desperate.
But the defense I'm seeing for Famitsu's digital estimates just seems really desperate.
They can't be defended. I'm just saying it's understandable why people would want to cling to something.
It was not a update pack.
It was a new separate game that can be bought only through the base version.
I have just the opposite feeling.
Sega did it with Valkyria Chronicles 4 (PS4 NSW). Falcom did it too with Ys VIII (PSV PS4). And sure there are some other examples.
If the publisher has the will, they can announce a Switch version. But for some reason they don't think is worth.
whether i'm wrong to call it update pack or not (like no way I can remember what the version actually called after 5 years), it's still a fact that you still can't really purchase it directly from eshop back during launch. it's like let's say for example Nintendo doesn't allow you to purchase xb2 torna standalone from eshop (which luckily it didn't happen), and then the "reliable estimate" puts torna having digital numbers based on xb2 season pass "estimate".
The desperation to defend famitsu digital is truly one of a kind. I hope that whoever who truly believe having a wrong information is better than no information never hold a strong business position of a company lol.
The company can lost so much money over wrong information when they can probably just avoid losing money due to no information.
The company can lost so much money over wrong information when they can probably just avoid losing money due to no information.
Any information is good information. It's the interpretation of that information that can be flawed.
Your interpretation that any information is good information is flawed.
It doesn't? You might be confused but it's launch aligned comparing just over first 2 years, that's why year 4/5 games like Okami HD or Onimusha aren't on PS4 side.
I should ask the Famitsu estimate people to play darts with me. Could get a good winning streak going based on these misses.
I'll give it a try. Wii U sold 3 million units in it's first month. If you extrapolate out from that assuming 3 million per month it has now sold 222 million units.
That's how you can come to completely false conclusions using real methodology.
And that method is clearly flawed given the wildly inaccurate 'data' it has provided.
Bullshit in what context? As far as I know Famitsu is using the best possible way they can to get digital estimates other than getting them directly from publishers (which they're not allowed to share). With retail sales they can poll brick and mortar stores to learn about shipments size and sell-through numbers but there's no intermediary for digital sales.
I think we should stop using Famitsu numbers altogether. Clearly they're just a worthless outlet spec with no grasp on the video gaming industry in Japan. Just Media Create and Dengeki now. They are the true stars. Who knows video games better than a light novel publisher anyway?
Again, since we know they're almost always innacurate because their methodology doesn't work, it doesn't matter that it's "the best they can do" since it's still bad data.
There are better, already established, methodologies to obtain hardware sales than polls and so my interpretation of his methodology would lead me not to trust them, naturally. As I said in my previous post, polls are currently the best and pretty much the only way to obtain digital estimates, unofficially.
Can you link us to Famitsu's explanation of their methodology. I'm alittle unclear on it and would appreciate further insight on this best polling, how it's administered, selection, sample size, etc.
https://www.f-ism.net/consultation/index.html
They also partner with the NPD group and Gfk ChartTrack.