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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2018 (Nov 12 - Nov 18)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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I think your first point could be explained by the assumption that the vast majority of the hardware buyers came for Pokémon, and relatively few for the Smash bundle.
Right, that's true.
I don't know, between GTA5 and BotW, I would have thought Japan would be up for the kind of open world game RDR2 is.
I think disappointment is only something that can be said relative to the company's own estimates. The number looks disappointing when taken in a vacuum but it's a title that was likely made on a much smaller budget and also to predominantly drive hardware, which it so far seems to have been exceptionally successful doing. I'm sure Nintendo would've loved if the game performed as powerful as some previous titles, but as far as they're concerned they're probably happy with the actual results, and I can't imagine the legs will waver that much. That they're basically positioning this off of the back of Smash shortly after the fact suggests they're well aware LGPE alone wasn't going to be the kind of solo driving force you'd expect from a new generation title.
If Gen 8 had these numbers, then they'd probably start being concerned.
First week ever Nintendo Switch over perform.. Nice to see.
PLG got the FW sales that the kind of game it is deserves, i am expecting strong legs for this one since it's not selling to the usual Pokemon game audience.
PLG>250k week 47
PLG got the FW sales that the kind of game it is deserves, i am expecting strong legs for this one since it's not selling to the usual Pokemon game audience.
PLG>250k week 47
Well I was one of the few that shared this opinion a couple threads ago but I don't think this week is an outlier in any way especially as it got a bigger increase, relatively, than all the others evergreen titles.
Mario Kart is also nothing to scoff at, it sold 4M on DS close to 4M on Wii and below 3M on 3DS, so far it's also tracking way better than 7 so we're looking at a game that still has 1.5-2M remaining sales at least.
But yes Splatoon 2 sales have slowed down, slightly.
Why are people saying Splatoon holds the record for best FW when Pokemon actually beat it?
01./00. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 648.085 / NEW
01./00. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 648.085 / NEW
What is the % of first week Pokémon games relative to other hardware install bases at the time? I feel like that should be the barometer to look at with slightly lowered variance due to this game being non traditional.
Can I make a crazy theory
What if battle royale games, mostly mobile, had a bigger impact on Splatoon 2 sales than NSO? Knives Out, PUBG mobile and Fortnite all are out now and available for smartphones + also are free.
Very poorly lol.
1.8 million
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Weekly retailer hints vol.1
Pokemon appears to have very good word of mouth and a strong hold at its second week. If weekend is also good it should sell big amounts in holidays. Hype for it exploded 2-3 weeks before launch, it was literally dead before then.
Battlefield V had a good opening. This and more days on sale make a 100k opening very possible.
Smash bundles are available, Pokemon have almost disappeared after Let's Go launch and Nintendo didn't restock yet.
Pokemon appears to have very good word of mouth and a strong hold at its second week. If weekend is also good it should sell big amounts in holidays. Hype for it exploded 2-3 weeks before launch, it was literally dead before then.
Battlefield V had a good opening. This and more days on sale make a 100k opening very possible.
Smash bundles are available, Pokemon have almost disappeared after Let's Go launch and Nintendo didn't restock yet.
Those numbers confirms what I said in the other thread. It seems "non-traditionnal gamers" were the ones buying the game the most. Because for such HUGE increase in hardware, there wasn't any big spike in the the Switch software sales. Meaning those "non traditional gamers", just bought the Switch for Let's Go.
Yeah this trend is right in line with what we have been hearing everywhere. Soft pre-orders, minimal interest in the run up to launch, solid debut, exceptionally strong word of mouth. Hopefully strong hold, as you said.
Wasn't that USUM?
Interesting, Pokemon might continue to drive additional hardware next week then?
Huh. So Su/Mo had an exceptionally weak opening then, that's very surprising.
At this rate it won't take long. Very impressive. Although not too surprising, given the fact that Japan loves Nintendo and handheld consoles.
The Switch seems perfect for Japan, except maybe the higher than normal pricepoint (as a handheld alternative). Nintendo releasing great game after great game helps as well :-)
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Holiday shopping season is beginning and Smash is coming soon, it's not only Pokemon.
This is very promising. The games have resounded better with audiences than I would have expected even a week ago.
Well from this week's result it looks like a lot of the hardware buyers are specifically buying it for Pokemon, since the other evergreens are getting more muted bumps.
Of course hardware sales will be high for a variety of reasons but a lot of the hardware seemed to be specifically correlated to Pokemon buyers, and I'm curious if that will remain high in the coming weeks with the great WoM.
Sw spikes usually happens the subsequent weeks and not the same week a big game is released. See what happens when Splatoon and Odyssey released.
Confusion between MC and Famitsu numbers I think. First week for Splatoon 2 in Famitsu was 670k.
Good opening for let's go eevee/pikachu, wonder how it compares to spinoff sales.
Decent opening for fallout 76, a bit surprised myself by the numbers since it is an online multiplayer shooter. Wonder if its sales will continue in following weeks.
Unfortunately low opening sales for hitman 2.
Switch hardware sales seeing a massive increase, probably with the let's go bundles helping out. Ps4 sales down.
Good week for switch hardware, and I wonder if a retailer holiday discount could help with ps4 sales.
Decent opening for fallout 76, a bit surprised myself by the numbers since it is an online multiplayer shooter. Wonder if its sales will continue in following weeks.
Unfortunately low opening sales for hitman 2.
Switch hardware sales seeing a massive increase, probably with the let's go bundles helping out. Ps4 sales down.
Good week for switch hardware, and I wonder if a retailer holiday discount could help with ps4 sales.
We already talked about this in the last few pages, but I got confused because of the 670K from Famitsu for Splatoon 2. Smash gonna dethrone both LGPE from Media Create and Splatoon 2 from Famitsu next month anyway.
ooof, well I guess thats not good then..
Maybe next year it will do better when they release a Mainline Pokemon game.
Sorry. I didn't see anyone mention it on the same page, so I posted it before I started reading more recent pages. Stupid; my bad.
Yep both this and getting people onboard with the Pokemon IP that either never played the games or are lapsed fans so that Gen 8 can sell to an even wider audience next year.
Well seeing as it's on track to double any "spinoff" game, and is performing like a mainline game in the UK then yes I believe they will continue to call it a mainline game as that is what it is.
1 thing I just remembered regarding Pokemon LGP/E, Switch is the most expensive hardware, by a significant margin, a Pokemon game has ever launched on.
Most Nintendo handheld is sub 20000 yen.
So maybe LGP/E driving this much hardware sales is a very strong result.
Most Nintendo handheld is sub 20000 yen.
So maybe LGP/E driving this much hardware sales is a very strong result.
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu & Eevee compared to:
X & Y: -64.6%
ORAS: -56.2%
SuMo: -65.1%
USUM: -43.1%
But as said earlier, the core fans tend to buy the games on Day 1, and LGPE appeals more to the 'casual' fans and kids than the core RPG fans, so legs should be fine, especially since word of mouth is well.
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How big of a share does that Smash preload bundle have in the Switch hardware sales? Significant enough, right?
X & Y: -64.6%
ORAS: -56.2%
SuMo: -65.1%
USUM: -43.1%
But as said earlier, the core fans tend to buy the games on Day 1, and LGPE appeals more to the 'casual' fans and kids than the core RPG fans, so legs should be fine, especially since word of mouth is well.
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How big of a share does that Smash preload bundle have in the Switch hardware sales? Significant enough, right?
Well, things to bear in mind include that SuMo opened to a massive install base, versus LGPE opening to the smallest install base the series has ever opened to.
Splatoon 2 will probably inch its way to 3m eventually given the legs its had. Is it the biggest console game in Japan in years? I feel like the FF and DQ games were the only to approach that number and they've fallen off.
I assume the price point was at least $20 higher and often more if people got the Pokeball accessory. That plays at least some sort of role. For comparison, people could buy both 3DS games for less than the cost of the game plus the ball.
First week sales (Media Create)
Pokémon X/Y - 1.866.570 units (3DS weekly: 213.570 / 3DS LTD: 13.223.532)
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 1.508.665 units (3DS weekly: 88.653 / 3DS LTD: 17.036.780)
Pokémon Sun/Moon - 1.893.387 units (3DS weekly: 107.631 / 3DS LTD: 21.520.967)
Pokémon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - 1.163.003 units (3DS weekly: 43.480 / 3DS LTD: 23.533.118)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!/Let's Go, Evee! - 661.240 units (NSW weekly: 200.850 / NSW LTD: 5.601.957)
LTD sales as of W52 of launch year
Pokémon X/Y - 3.726.596 units (3DS LTD: 14.661.920)
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 2.483.344 units (3DS LTD: 17.838.445)
Pokémon Sun/Moon - 3.269.287 units (3DS LTD: 22.160.745)
Pokémon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - 2.047.550 units (3DS LTD: 23.822.779)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!/Let's Go, Evee! - ???
Pokémon X/Y - 1.866.570 units (3DS weekly: 213.570 / 3DS LTD: 13.223.532)
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 1.508.665 units (3DS weekly: 88.653 / 3DS LTD: 17.036.780)
Pokémon Sun/Moon - 1.893.387 units (3DS weekly: 107.631 / 3DS LTD: 21.520.967)
Pokémon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - 1.163.003 units (3DS weekly: 43.480 / 3DS LTD: 23.533.118)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!/Let's Go, Evee! - 661.240 units (NSW weekly: 200.850 / NSW LTD: 5.601.957)
LTD sales as of W52 of launch year
Pokémon X/Y - 3.726.596 units (3DS LTD: 14.661.920)
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 2.483.344 units (3DS LTD: 17.838.445)
Pokémon Sun/Moon - 3.269.287 units (3DS LTD: 22.160.745)
Pokémon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - 2.047.550 units (3DS LTD: 23.822.779)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!/Let's Go, Evee! - ???
Could be both
I feel the fact that sales are clealry not performing like they were before NSO launched seems pretty obvious but we should wait for holidays to see if those numbers boost up again.
I do not think that the audience is the same. Splatoon targets mainly kids in Japan.
It's fair to say Let's go was a bigger part considering the relatively small bump of the evergreens.
No major bump of core software. Pokemon was the only thing selling and no major uptick of smash preorders.
Hardware sales went up the weeks before Let's Go launch. Evergreen sales didn't get a huge boost this week.