Mr_F_Snowman

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It seems like a great result to me -pushed a lot of Switches, sold a ton of PokeBall+ controllers and after digital you're realistically looking at the 750-800k range sold (and at 20% odd higher price than previous games).

Will be interesting if we get any PR from Nintendo about the launch, how long does it normally take for Nintendo to put something out?
 

Calamari41

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It seems like a great result to me -pushed a lot of Switches, sold a ton of PokeBall+ controllers and after digital you're realistically looking at the 750-800k range sold (and at 20% odd higher price than previous games).

Will be interesting if we get any PR from Nintendo about the launch, how long does it normally take for Nintendo to put something out?

Since they didn't release anything right after the weekend, I would imagine that we will be getting a PR release after this next weekend so that they can brag about worldwide post-Black Friday numbers.
 

Rouk'

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I'm not sure how big of an effect this is in Japan but one difference between past Pokemon games and this one is that it's far easier for people to stream it on Twitch and the like, since it's on a console that can use a capture card. Therefore it's doing extremely well on Twitch right now, far better than past Pokemon games and seemingly better than most Nintendo games in general too. Handhelds have always been very difficult to stream from.

Things like that help enhance the WoM.

It hard to compare WoM between different titles, on different platforms at different moment in their life.

However, with the rapidly growing userbase and the good WoM, the game should be way less frontloaded than previous entries.

Outside of the Game Boy games, yeah, probably.

Thanks you all !

So yeah, legs will definitelt be interesting with Let's Go.

I predict Fallout 76 will not even be in the Top 20 next week

That sounds a bit excessive, no ? This week's baseline is 2k, assuming this stays the same next week, this would be a 97% drop. And if the baseline is higher then : 3k would be a 96% drop; 4k would be a 94% drop ; 5k a 93% drop
 

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I wasn't there back then, but is it the strongest a pokémon WoM has ever been ? If not, how does it compare to other games ? (I know it's probably hard to answer that, as it's not really quantifiable)

Because usually, the hype is huge before the launch, which wasn't the case with LGP/LGE. So the difference between pre and post-launch should be bigger
No.... the original Red/Blue/Green release is the very definition of WoM helping.
 

Nocturnal

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Meh Pokemon Lets Go debut, still feeling confident about it being up compared to US/UM by the end of the year in Japan.

Switch hardware on M-C is slightly below what I thought, still next week is more interesting - should be over 100K but by how much....
 

Mr_F_Snowman

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Since they didn't release anything right after the weekend, I would imagine that we will be getting a PR release after this next weekend so that they can brag about worldwide post-Black Friday numbers.

Would make sense. Or maybe waiting for some kind of milestone to be hit before they put something out (like 10 million sold / $500 million revenue etc etc)
 

Rand a. Thor

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Holy fuck that hardware bump is 2 weeks early. We could see .5mil hardware numbers in mid December, been a long time since. If this is the power of Casual Pokemon, Gen 8 is gonna be a massive flex. +10% attachment rate for Pokemon this early is amazing, and it isn't gonna drop any time soon. So much can be said about these numbers
 

Jaime.GGG

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Switch might perform similiar to 3DS second holiday.

3DS 2012
Week 43 / Hardware: 61K Software: NSMB2 24K,
Week 44 / Hardware: 97K Software: NSMB2 24K,
Week 45 / Hardware: 187K Software: Animal Crossing 603K, NSMB2 23K,
Week 46 / Hardware: 168K Software: AC 290K, NSMB2 41K,
Week 47 / Hardware: 162K Software: AC 213K, NSMB2 34K, Pokemon Mystery 121K
Week 48 / Hardware: 167K Software: AC 105K, NSMB2 32K, Pokemon Mystery 48K, Layton 128K
Week 49 / Hardware: 211K Software: AC 89K, NSMB2 47K, Paper Mario 129K
Week 50 / Hardware: 319K Software: AC 151K, NSMB2 70K, PM 92K, Inazuma 168K
Week 51 / Hardware: 411K Software: AC 356K, NSMB2 107K, PM 122K
Week 52 / Hardware: 250K Software: AC 159K, NSMB2 65K, PM 59K

Animal Crossing debuted with similar numbers to Pokemon and the boost in hardware was similar, legs will be hard to match.
Mario Party will do numbers quite similar to NSMB2 (just for the holidays)
Smash debut might surpass Pokemon Mystery, Layton, Paper Mario and Inazuma combined
And we have the evergreens that are selling better compared to the 3DS (mario kart, zelda, splatoon, odyssey) MK7 sold 8K in week 49 2012

My prediction is 160K Switch hardware next week. 230K Pokemon
 
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PillFencer

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Switch might perform similiar to 3DS second holiday.

3DS 2012
Week 43 / Hardware: 61K Software: NSMB2 24K,
Week 44 / Hardware: 97K Software: NSMB2 24K,
Week 45 / Hardware: 187K Software: Animal Crossing 603K, NSMB2 23K,
Week 46 / Hardware: 168K Software: AC 290K, NSMB2 41K,
Week 47 / Hardware: 162K Software: AC 213K, NSMB2 34K, Pokemon Mystery 121K
Week 48 / Hardware: 167K Software: AC 105K, NSMB2 32K, Pokemon Mystery 48K, Layton 128K
Week 49 / Hardware: 211K Software: AC 89K, NSMB2 47K, Paper Mario 129K
Week 50 / Hardware: 319K Software: AC 151K, NSMB2 70K, PM 92K, Inazuma 168K
Week 51 / Hardware: 411K Software: AC 356K, NSMB2 107K, PM 122K
Week 52 / Hardware: 250K Software: AC 159K, NSMB2 65K, PM 59K

Animal Crossing debuted with similar numbers to Pokemon and the boost in hardware was similar, legs will be hard to match.
Mario Party will do numbers quite similar to NSMB2
Smash debut might surpass Pokemon Mystery, Layton, Paper Mario and Inazuma combined
And we have the evergreens that are selling better compared to the 3DS (mario kart, zelda, splatoon, odyssey) MK7 sold 8K in week 49 2012

My prediction is 160K Switch hardware next week. 230K Pokemon
Animal Crossing: New Leaf had 700k digital sales in Japan as of Week 52, 2012 because of stock issues btw.
 

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Could BOTW actually make it to 2 million? My God...
 
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Those numbers confirms what I said in the other thread. It seems "non-traditionnal gamers" were the ones buying the game the most. Because for such HUGE increase in hardware, there wasn't any big spike in the the Switch software sales. Meaning those "non traditional gamers", just bought the Switch for Let's Go.

Will be interesting to see the influence that this influx of new owner has on the Switch evergreens in a few weeks time (the effect wont be immediate; but perhaps might become more evident after a bit of time once they finish Let's Go).
 

Garlic

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Splatoon 2 will probably inch its way to 3m eventually given the legs its had. Is it the biggest console game in Japan in years? I feel like the FF and DQ games were the only to approach that number and they've fallen off.

You're forgetting Monster Hunter, and Animal Crossing will give it a run for its money when it comes out. FF is probably out for the count at this point.
 

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Let's Go did even worse on MC when people in the other thread wanted already to count it as the best selling FW for the system assuming it was going to do better in this tracker. Nice record hold, Splatoon 2.

Great Switch HW numbers anyway.
Where did people say that? Don't make stuff up.
 

PillFencer

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That high?

I think estimated digital sales are around 500k---maybe a bit more with discounts and amiibo version. Surely not that high by the end of 2012.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/events/130131/05.html

Satoru Iwata said:
Stock of the packaged version of "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" ran short as we could not increase production due to its customized ROM card using SLC-NAND memory last year. Also, the game is one that you can enjoy every day over a long period of time. Many consumers therefore have chosen its downloaded version and the number of sales has already surpassed 700,000 units, occupying one-fourth of the total number of sales, which is an unprecedented achievement.
 

Sadist

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Thats some good figures. Japan will be all over Nintendo this Christmas.

Will be a few interesting months.
 

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Amazing numbers for Switch, really impressive. I can't wait to see when Smash releases and the sales in december.

Pokémon also did very well in my vision considering the size of the install base compared to past releases. It's going to get a strong leg in Japan.
 

Lwill

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It is interesting to note that despite LGPE initially selling much less than X/Y, it is a lot closer to it in terms of how much hardware was sold during their launch week.

Week of 10/7-10/14/2013

  • 3DS LL – 141,245 (85,885)
  • 3DS – 72,325 (37,102)
  • 3DS total - 213,570
  • 200,000 Switch hardware sold during LGPE's launch.
Read more at https://gematsu.com/2013/10/media-create-sales-10713-101313#zrLXh44wrYO8K1kE.99

Considering the price difference between the Switch and 3DS (which already had a massive price drop and the 3DS XL released), that is very impressive.

Do note that the numbers for X/Y only accounted for 2 days during that week in comparison for 3 for this week. X/Y was definitely a monster in both hardware and software, but the impact from LGPF is very significant.

Edit: oops. Replaced sun/moon with X/Y.
 
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PillFencer

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It is interesting to note that despite LGPE initially selling much less than Sun/Moon, it is a lot closer to it in terms of how much hardware was sold during their launch week.

Week of 10/7-10/14/2013

  • 3DS LL – 141,245 (85,885)
  • 3DS – 72,325 (37,102)
  • 3DS total - 213,570
  • 200,000 Switch hardware sold during LGPE's launch.
Read more at https://gematsu.com/2013/10/media-create-sales-10713-101313#zrLXh44wrYO8K1kE.99

Considering the price difference between the Switch and 3DS (and 3DS XL was already released), that is very impressive.

Do note that the numbers for Sun/Moon only accounted for 2 days during that week in comparison for 3 for this week. Sun/Moon was definitely a monster in both hardware and software, but the impact from LGPF is very significant.
X/Y, not Sun/Moon.
 

HeroR

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It is interesting to note that despite LGPE initially selling much less than Sun/Moon, it is a lot closer to it in terms of how much hardware was sold during their launch week.

Week of 10/7-10/14/2013

  • 3DS LL – 141,245 (85,885)
  • 3DS – 72,325 (37,102)
  • 3DS total - 213,570
  • 200,000 Switch hardware sold during LGPE's launch.
Read more at https://gematsu.com/2013/10/media-create-sales-10713-101313#zrLXh44wrYO8K1kE.99

Considering the price difference between the Switch and 3DS (and 3DS XL was already released), that is very impressive.

Do note that the numbers for Sun/Moon only accounted for 2 days during that week in comparison for 3 for this week. Sun/Moon was definitely a monster in both hardware and software, but the impact from LGPF is very significant.

Interesting. But I think the thing that held Let's Go back in sells was that it was 'dead' until only a few weeks before launch. That and I believe the Switch overall have higher digital sells compared to the 3DS even in Japan who largely still prefer to go physical. Also, Sun/Moon came off the heels of Pokemon Go, which is why it was such a monster when it launched.
 

Lwill

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Interesting. But I think the thing that held Let's Go back in sells was that it was 'dead' until only a few weeks before launch. That and I believe the Switch overall have higher digital sells compared to the 3DS even in Japan who largely still prefer to go physical. Also, Sun/Moon came off the heels of Pokemon Go, which is why it was such a monster when it launched.

Just to clarify, my numbers are for X/Y, not Sun/Moon.

Sun/Moon didn't impact the Japanese's hardware sales as much as X/Y (or LGPE), but it
but it was another story overseas. I agree that Pokémon Go contributed to that.
 

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Will be interesting to see the influence that this influx of new owner has on the Switch evergreens in a few weeks time (the effect wont be immediate; but perhaps might become more evident after a bit of time once they finish Let's Go).

That's funny just today a girl at work, was very excited after buying a thing on Amazon. It turns out it was Let's Go Pikachu. I would have never imagine that seeing her. She told me she bought a Switch just for that. She is Pokemon Go maniac.

I think Nintendo is going to turn Let's Go into Minecraft. Seriously...
 

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|    |       Switch 2017     |       Switch 2018     | Difference|
|Week|   Weekly  |     YTD   |   Weekly  |     YTD   |2018 - 2017|
+----+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| 43 |   126.701 | 2.020.984 |    37.855 | 1.990.506 |   -30.478 |
| 44 |    64.387 | 2.085.371 |    43.747 | 2.034.253 |   -51.118 |
| 45 |    79.958 | 2.165.329 |    54.235 | 2.088.488 |   -76.841 |
| 46 |    86.999 | 2.252.328 |   200.850 | 2.289.338 |    37.010 |
| 47 |   145.200 | 2.397.528 |           |           |           |
| 48 |   124.770 | 2.522.298 |           |           |           |
| 49 |   164.908 | 2.687.206 |           |           |           |
| 50 |   221.210 | 2.908.416 |           |           |           |
| 51 |   269.684 | 3.178.100 |           |           |           |
| 52 |   134.519 | 3.312.619 |           |           |           |
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