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Rainrir

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Tsutaya down the road had stock, including the Odyssey bundle as of late last night.

Previously, during the non-holidays, stores either sold out at the lotto or before the evening. That happened with the Odyssey bundle back in October.

Are you telling me it is time to panic?
 
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December 4/5

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TheDinoman

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The Nintendo first-party release curse. If it doesn't sell a million or close, it's a "failure". Meanwhile 99% of other publishers pop champagne if the game sells 100k.

To be fair, even selling a million isn't enough for some people. See: people that dogpile Pikmin for "not being successful", even though 2/3 of the mainline series were million sellers WW, and the one that wasn't was on Wii U.
 

ZER0

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People here are acting like xenoblade flopped, while that''s not true in the slightest.

The game sold though 70% of it inital shipment in Japan(that was 2 weeks ago).
Combine this with the fact that Xenoblade never was a big seller in Japan, it didn't do to bad.
 

Sander VF

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Oct 28, 2017
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Any way to get a confirmation on that ? Did Nintendo shipped more Switches in US for December ? So Japan had less units...
We had continuous reports of it selling out throughout the last week.

In fact, this (the current one, not the week this thread is about) is the first week where Switch is reported to not sell out immediately.

But there are people more knowledgeable than me posting in this thread, who can give you a better answer.
 

rAndom

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Mario is the Santa Claus of Japan.

Splatoon 2 remains on a rampage mode.

ARMS resurrection.

Xenoverse 2 on Switch showing legggsss.

And yeah Kirby booming this week.
 

Lwill

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Oct 28, 2017
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I believe people who were looking at the week's data may have underestimated the software-to-hardware ratio for the Switch. Despite the hardware numbers being under what most of us expected, the software sales are very impressive.
 

hiska-kun

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Switch vs 3DS (Next week 3DS will say goodbye)

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|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  |

|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|  41|  205.962|2.883.978|  164.908|2.687.206|      -196.772|

|  42|  350.321|3.234.299|  221.210|2.908.416|      -325.883|

|  43|  367.691|3.601.990|  269.684|3.178.100|      -423.890|

|  44|  482.200|4.084.191|         |         |              |

|  45|  197.952|4.282.143|         |         |              |

|  46|  240.819|4.522.961|         |         |              |

|  47|  100.668|4.623.630|         |         |              |

|  48|   80.960|4.704.590|         |         |              |

|  49|   84.789|4.789.379|         |         |              |

|  50|   75.018|4.864.397|         |         |              |

|  51|   67.558|4.931.955|         |         |              |

|  52|   94.667|5.026.622|         |         |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|


PS4 YTD 2017 vs PS4 YTD 2016 (PS4 needs to sell 57.481 next week)

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|    |   PlayStation 4   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  |

|    |   (2016/01/04)~   |   (2017/01/02)~   |              |

|    |   ~(2017/01/01)   |   ~(2017/12/31)   |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|Week|  Weekly |   YTD   |  Weekly |   YTD   | YTD17 - YTD16|

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|  41|   30.154|1.063.639|   22.706|1.328.766|       265.127|

|  42|   27.069|1.090.708|   31.278|1.360.044|       269.336|

|  43|   30.375|1.121.083|   24.653|1.384.697|       263.614|

|  44|   32.041|1.153.124|   28.823|1.413.520|       260.396|

|  45|   92.344|1.245.468|   26.058|1.439.579|       194.111|

|  46|   38.026|1.283.494|   26.302|1.465.880|       182.386|

|  47|   42.102|1.325.596|   26.909|1.492.789|       167.193|

|  48|  118.350|1.443.946|   33.407|1.526.196|        82.250|

|  49|   92.717|1.536.663|   85.687|1.611.883|        75.220|

|  50|   79.348|1.616.011|   62.965|1.674.848|        58.837|

|  51|  100.238|1.716.249|   67.257|1.742.105|        25.856|

|  52|   83.337|1.799.586|         |         |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|


Mario Odyssey vs Mario 3D Land

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|    |Super Mario 3D Land|Super Mario Odyssey|  Difference  |

|    | [3DS] (2011/11/03)| [NSW] (2017/10/27)|              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  SMO – SM3DL |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|  1 |  343.492|  343.492|  462.038|  462.038|       118.546|

|  2 |   93.441|  436.933|  116.931|  578.969|       142.036|

|  3 |   62.318|  499.250|   73.315|  652.284|       153.034|

|  4 |   61.710|  560.960|   62.024|  714.308|       153.348|

|  5 |   73.907|  634.868|   77.751|  792.059|       157.191|

|  6 |   89.743|  724.611|   61.596|  853.654|       129.043|

|  7 |  112.533|  837.143|   95.816|  949.470|       112.327|

|  8 |  174.566|1.011.709|  133.180|1.082.650|        70.941|

|  9 |   68.483|1.080.192|  209.630|1.292.281|       212.089|

| 10 |  119.093|1.199.285|         |         |              |

| 11 |   40.154|1.239.440|         |         |              |

| 12 |   26.051|1.265.491|         |         |              |

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Mario Odyssey vs Splatoon 2

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MK8 DX vs MK8 (Last week for this comparison)

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|    |   Mario Kart 8    |  Mario Kart 8 DX  |  Difference  |

|    | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [NSW] (2017/04/28)|              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | MK8DX – MK8  |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

| 32 |   28.403|  880.180|   23.388|  861.238|       -18.942|

| 33 |    8.884|  889.064|   33.315|  894.553|         5.489|

| 34 |    6.915|  895.979|   50.679|  945.232|        49.253|

| 35 |    5.386|  901.365|  100.205|1.045.438|       144.073|

| 36 |    5.103|  906.468|         |         |              |

| 37 |    4.799|  911.267|         |         |              |

| 38 |    5.222|  916.489|         |         |              |

| 39 |    4.603|  921.092|         |         |              |

| 40 |    4.898|  925.990|         |         |              |

| 41 |    5.342|  931.332|         |         |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|


Switch vs Wii U (Switch will fail this one for one week)

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Eolz

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Atelier Suellen flop, even the Switch didn't do it.
To be fair, it'd be better to wait to see how much the Vita and Switch version sold. Might be flat compared to Firis' debut, or even a bit more overall.
Still disappointing that they're not in the top 20 obviously, but it's the end of a trilogy.
 

Zedark

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People here are acting like xenoblade flopped, while that''s not true in the slightest.

The game sold though 70% of it inital shipment in Japan(that was 2 weeks ago).
Combine this with the fact that Xenoblade never was a big seller in Japan, it didn't do to bad.
It's quite confounding. Firstly, people were sad that it only sold 97k when that's the best for the series by a good 10k, secondly they were aghast about the 80% in the second week, which is rather typical for the genre, and now people are disappointed that it didn't go up 33% or more in its fourth week to enter the top 20. None of those should be disappointing, yet we keep seeing them put out there. Almost like people don't how the sales pattern of JRPGs go.
 

Spine Crawler

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People here are acting like xenoblade flopped, while that''s not true in the slightest.

The game sold though 70% of it inital shipment in Japan(that was 2 weeks ago).
Combine this with the fact that Xenoblade never was a big seller in Japan, it didn't do to bad.
its the best selling xenoblade game already isnt it? If not it sure will be. still it would have been great if it would get a 100% boost like the rest of the switch titles.
 
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One Piece did much better than I would've thought (I know a lot doubted it last thread) at 16.011. DB Xenoverse 2 Switch did 24.045 first week via MC, so they're not too far apart. Remains to be seen how the legs are.

BTW, Unlimited World R only did 4.652 on Switch FW via MC (and higher than the PS4 version in fact). PW3 REALLY resonated I guess in comparison.
 
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Switch software showed massive increase this week, it will end the year closer to 2011 3DS from what I was expecting.

01./02. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 209.630 / 1.292.281 (+57%)
04./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 137.607 / 1.668.466 (+95%)
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 100.205 / 1.045.438 (+98%)
07./11. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 35.565 / 738.026 (+83%)
08./18. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} (¥5.980) - 27.053 / 177.835 (+143%)
09./19. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980) - 25.285 / 297.491 (+136%)
11./21. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 23.156 / 328.694 (+130%)
20./27. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 15.916 / 89.161
 

Celine

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Wow. In 2018 the whole Japanese console market will be basically just 2 different consoles.
Switch and Ps4
Correct.
What not everybody realized yet is that for total HW YTD 2018 to be up year over year, Switch need to sell much more than what it did in 2017.
This is because PS4 is unlikely to sell more in 2018 than what it did in 2016 and 2017, 3DS will likely sell less than 1M and the rest of the pack (basically consoles that don't matter anymore) will sell at best 200K together.
 

Oregano

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At its peak, it used to sell around 100k or more (with Totori and Meruru, IIRC).

Whilst that's true this one's probably not too far off Firis and that's probably the best they could hope for considering the bad reception of that game.

Gust really needs to make something stick though.
 

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Zedark

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Correct.
What not everybody realized yet is that for total HW YTD 2018 to be up year over year, Switch need to sell much more than what it did in 2017.
This is because PS4 is unlikely to sell more in 2018 than what it did in 2016 and 2017, 3DS will likely sell less than 1M and the rest of the pack (basically consoles that don't matter anymore) will sell at best 200K together.
Yeah, Switch would need to sell 5-6 million at least to make up for the loss of 3DS and other miscellaneous systems, as well as a quite possible drop for PS4 (although that one remains to be seen, and might be relegated to a small drop if software continues to pump).
 
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So what I'm getting at is the Switch has a large fighting game audience? Xenoverse 2 should easily pass 100k and get close to PS4 Ltd?
 
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Pokken Tournament DX almost outsold Pokken Tournament this week.

177.835 Vs. 179.000
 

Rotimi

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Well that is disappointing, and I just predicted 350k for switch in the previous thread. I guess Nintendo couldn't deliver on the supply end.
 

Izanagi89

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32 units seems a bit unreal. Can't be true...Not trying to bait or anything sorry, just....32 though?
 

Raw64life

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Cot damn that rise to heaven.

BOTW Switch + Wii U definitely going to get to 1 million if it hasn't already.

Switch LTD gonna pass the Wii U LTD in under ten months.

PS4 sales seem very disappointing. Guess that's what happens with no major software releases.

I'm surprised they even bothered releasing the X1X in Japan.
 

Soony Xbone Uhh

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Correct.
What not everybody realized yet is that for total HW YTD 2018 to be up year over year, Switch need to sell much more than what it did in 2017.
This is because PS4 is unlikely to sell more in 2018 than what it did in 2016 and 2017, 3DS will likely sell less than 1M and the rest of the pack (basically consoles that don't matter anymore) will sell at best 200K together.

Yeah, Switch would need to sell 5-6 million at least to make up for the loss of 3DS and other miscellaneous systems, as well as a quite possible drop for PS4 (although that one remains to be seen, and might be relegated to a small drop if software continues to pump).
Vita will be dead next year.
Xbox One was never alive.
3DS will be on life support and a stronger Switch will just hurt the console even more.

Was there ever a time in Japan with just 2 different systems across home and portable console? This is scary and a huge consolidation. And there're no new consoles anywhere near...
 

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Amazing sales from Nintendo as usual at this time of year. The software bumps are crazy.

People seem to be very disappointed with 280 000 units this week. How many were people expecting?
 

ZER0

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Amazing sales from Nintendo as usual at this time of year. The software bumps are crazy.


People seem to be very disappointed with 280 000 units this week. How many were people expecting?
some people were expecting 350,000+. There was a lot of news that there were a lot of big switch shipments.
 

DarkDetective

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As I said in the Week 50 thread, I think 270k is pretty disappointing for what's supposed the biggest week of the year and it's all to blame on Nintendo's supply chain. It's a shame, because consumers young and old weren't able to pick one up for Christmas this way and publishers miss software sales this way. Since the Switch has good availability now in North America and Europe, I think Nintendo could've put more priority to Japan for December than they already did. That being said, overall December has been a good month for the Switch so far. Since the start of Week 49 (December 4), 655.802 Switch units have been sold and there's still a week left. Hopefully sales stay above 200k next week.

As a result of bigger hardware sales, software sales have gone up too. Most games see bigger rises than the hardware itself tho (in units). Most first-party NSW games are at least 90% up, and ARMS and Pokkén even ~140%.

The 3DS games that were released this Fall continue to do well too. Kirby and Girls Mode 4 above 100k, Animal Crossing keeps selling, and the last Sumikko Gurashi 3DS game too. Pokémon USUM is at 1.985.852 now (almost 2M!)

Bandai Namco's late ports keep doing well. DBXV2 is back and will most likely pass 100k next year. I didn't believe on beforehand that this would happen! One Piece: PW3 also has a nice opening for a late port of a 2 year old game (it is the best portable version and includes all DLC tho). With DBXV2, ARMS, Pokkén, and upcoming BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, the Switch starts shaping up as a real portable fighting game machine, which I think is very cool! The same can be said for Musou-type games with all those ports and Fire Emblem Warriors. :P

Amazing how the Switch ports are (almost) outselling the original Wii U game!

The Idolm@ster and Atelier are disappointing tho... Stella Stage is doing less than 30% of previous games FW, and Atelier is reaching new depths. :( I was hoping to make a sales comparison between PS4 and NSW (and preferably PSV too), but I'm afraid we'll have to wait a couple of weeks (or worst case the CY 2017 overview).

Earth Defense Force 5 on the other hand is doing great! 250k physical+digital combined, as confirmed by D3 Publisher. 85.000 digital sales = 34% digital ratio, which is ridiculous tho. I assume it's 250k shipped to retailers.

As for PS4 hardware YoY with 2016, I'm afraid it isn't gonna make it. A drop next week WoW makes most sense, and as hiska-kun shows in his graph, the PS4 needs more 58k units. I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. At least it isn't a big decline.
Switch 2017 outselling the Wii U LTD will be very tricky too...

So yeah, this week has its awesome and less awesome bits. The biggest shame is Nintendo's hardware strategy. Every Switch unit sold is an improvement of course, but it's a shame that it's going at a lower pace than we're hoping for. Consumers and third-party publishers are the biggest victims here.
 
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