I dunno. I don't get the impression its been that well received. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2018 (Feb 05 - Feb 11)
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I dunno. I don't get the impression its been that well received. Maybe I'm wrong.
I doubt it'll come to Japan as well, since the original release did low numbers (around 6-7k between PS4 and Vita), I doubt there's that much ROI you can get from such a late port. Both The Longest 5 Minutes and Penny Punching Princess aren't getting a Japanese Switch release either, and those are games with similar debuts.
Then, again, a game that debuted at 44th in its first week on the market like Birth Days is getting a Switch re-release in Japan as well, so...
NISA loooovvvvves them some Switch. Will be interesting if their interest helps spur along low tier Japan pubs
One thing I'm concerned with regards to Kirby is that the preview build was bad.
The preview build had absurd load times and that's really bad in a platformer. There's speculation that the terrible load times were because the preview build was just random levels stuck together with loading screens, but we'll have to see...
The preview build had absurd load times and that's really bad in a platformer. There's speculation that the terrible load times were because the preview build was just random levels stuck together with loading screens, but we'll have to see...
True, but they could always try and trick people into thinking it's SMTV. :P
I think it has with their JP partners(like Kadokawa here). Also notable was that SNK said SNK Heroines was already in development before they added the Switch SKU(how is that possible!?), but they also implied Arcade Archives played a role in convincing them to support Switch.
I'd be surprised if it's still a problem at launch. It's supposed to be a tiny file size so there's not much to justify long loading times.
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SNK also confirmed they have more games planned for Switch than just SNK Heroines.
Generally optimization is one of the last parts worked on in a game.
Yes, I read it too quickly as MH3. I didn't understand why you kept focusing on 3DS titles like that, but it wasn't the case.
I don't think the chance are small at all. In order to reach 3M in Japan, it just needs decent legs, not astronomical legs. The game sold 2M in japan in three days from what we can gather at the moment, it crushed the previous japanese success story in three single days (Splatoon 2). Getting 1 million more through legs isn't something out of this world, especially for a title like this.
If we take your conservative estimation of current sales - 2.6M - the game needs to sell 400 000 more copies through legs. It isn't that hard to reach. 5 more month at 80k will do it. Or something like 100k + 90k + 80k + 70k + 60k over 5 month. It doesn't seem like mission impossible to me, especially with the huge digital numbers. If the next weekly numbers are something like below 100k, it will needs more month but it's still reachable easily imo.
Known datas and market signals (I'm not sure what you mean by that), won't be of great help here. MHW is clearly its own beast and is known to crush almost any expectations.
Are you talking Japan, world wide, what exactly? Splatoon is going to keep selling for years.
In the site for the 3DS version, in the very bottom of the page, there is a little image talking about a 2018 release for the mobile version. My speculation is that, given the fact that L-5 is much more eager to promote the Switch version is that they will only show the mobile one after releasing the Switch one, and that they will probably make it based on it instead of the 3DS version like it was shown originally.
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It seems that 'The Lost Child' has been announced for Nintendo Switch.
https://nintendoeverything.com/el-shaddai-directors-new-game-the-lost-child-coming-to-switch/
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Reading more messages It seems that I'm late. I'm sorry :)
https://nintendoeverything.com/el-shaddai-directors-new-game-the-lost-child-coming-to-switch/
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Reading more messages It seems that I'm late. I'm sorry :)
he's been saying that about H1 software for months. just ignore it.
well according to era, Kirby is an overpriced platformer that sells to casuals regardless of quality and not core people, so....by that metric I guess it'll be fine lol.
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for some reason I'm kind of worried about DK. I think it'll do more than 100k, but I dunno....something is putting me off on going for 300k.
It's good to see FEH performing so well considering the franchise and Nintendo's other efforts on mobile. Also interesting to note is that 59% of the revenue comes from Japan while 41% is from overseas (specifically 29% for the US and 12% for other). I would've expected the share for the US to be bigger so maybe Nintendo/IS can work towards for its second year.
What's up with the hostility lmao
I can't really think of any major roadblocks for this game selling 300,000 eventually. The game is excellent (or at least has an excellent reputation, I didn't play it much on Wii U), they're addressing a major criticism and making it more accessible with Funky Mode, and we have a somewhat recent example of a game in the series doing 300,000 with Donkey Kong County Returns 3D. I think it will get there without much trouble.
It depends on how it keeps dropping. Next weeks' behavior will be telling.
As for known data and market signals: typical drops of previous entries, tiny installed base, etc.
The fact that MHW crushed previous expectations doesn't mean that we can't predict anything else based on information that we have available. That's pretty myopic and kills any discussion about the game.
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Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 also launched with Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball: Success Special at PS Store.
PS3 version is absent and Vita has taken the path to irrelevance since some time ago.
Since 2016 topped half million across all versions, 2018 will need PS4 to make up for a big part of lost sales.
But my question basically is: how will Konami keep those PS3/PSV players of Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2016 engaged over the coming years?
Have those people bought a PS4 in the meantime (or a NSW for a future game? Who knows...) or did those people shift toward JPPY Ace on mobile? How will Konami keep those players engaged?
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On a console with a 6m install base.i wasn't even expecting 2m LTD.
Konami filled a gap on Switch with Super Bomberman R and they could do it again with this game since Pro Yakyuu Famista from Bandai Namco hasn't been announced for it yet. In absence of that series and being a handheld version for a hot system, I think JPPY 2018 would have made some nice money from it.
I don't think Konami will care about it too much. I think they'll be happy with what they'll achieve on PS4/PSV (as long as it ends up above 400k, which I think will happen).
I don't know if I see 400k happening honestly. Powerful Pro 2016 did a bit less than 500k when the PSV wasn't completely dead and the PS3 version was present. I can see the PS4 version going up from the last one, but even that isn't a certainty when we've had so many underperformers on the system lately (many of them family oriented). I don't think the PSV version will do much at all this time around, so the PS4 will have to carry the weight.
I think a Switch version for this specific game would prevent it from seeing a substantial collapse. Maybe Konami will add it later, but I'm kind of surprised it's not releasing day and date with the other versions after the huge success of Bomberman.
I am kind of surprised that you expected a NSW version. I mean this treatment is nothing new from Konami, they did the same with 3DS which only got one Powerful Pro game in late 2016.
JPPY 2016 had the 16th best FW and 15th best LTD of any PS4 SKU released at the time, according to the GameDataLibrary, at 75.505 and 203.892.
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At the time of JPPY 2016's release, PS4's LTD was 2.777.073 and its YTD was 475.993. That was when the PS4 was on market for 114 weeks. That's 19.285 units per week on average from week 1-114.
Right now, the PS4's LTD is 6.401.139 and its YTD is 508.736 already (thanks to MHW ofc). We're at week 207 for the PS4 right now. That's 38.968 units per week on average from week 115-207. That's double!
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It's a shame that we don't have CY 2017 numbers yet. From CY 2015 to CY 2016, we have a PS4+PSV software sales increase with 30,8% from 10.320.207 to 13.496.599 (5.114.598 + 5.205.609 to 8.672.086 + 4.823.793). While the PSV declined very hard in 2017, I think the PS4 can make up for the PSV's share loss in 2017, considering the strong line-up of software (both multiplatform and exclusive).
So I think the position of the PS4+PSV combo is at least as good and maybe even better than in the Spring of 2016. We see a lot of hardcore exclusives struggle, but JPPY is a sports title, so it might appeal to more casual fans as well. The series has historically performed strongly. JPPY 2018 installment must sell 142.166 copies sold FW and 404.344 copies sold LTD in order to stay flat compared to JPPY 2016 on the same platforms. With the exception of JPPY 2014 (which was released when the PS4 was out for 8 months, but not on PS4), every installment since JPPY 2010 has been able to sell at least 300k copies across its two best-selling SKUs. So I think it'll be fine.
Bomberman and JPPY are very different games, but I still agree on this. There's a gap that Konami could fill with JPPY 2018 on the Switch. They better make sure they're on it earlier than Bandai Namco tho.
Hum? I believe given current figures, it would be a matter of arithmetic.
MHW: 1.35+0.65 million = ~2mil.
MH4: 1.87+0.23 million = ~2.1mil.
MH3P: ~2.15mil. (no digital)
Unless my numbers are wrong? We'll also be able to confirm the famitsu estimates in March during the FY reporting. I don't know how accurate the 3DS eShop numbers are either in particular.
Beyond the first week, subsequent weeks I believe (though I'd have to double check the last few weeks back, so feel free to correct me) all remain outpaced fairly significantly by both MH3P and MH4 (and MHX?). Of course, as noted before, until we know how digital persists on PS4 past week 1, it will be difficult to judge.
PSV feels/looks like more like a platform that has greatly lost its ability to move software. By April, it will probably be even worse.
Yeah, although most PSV games have been crappy running hardcore titles. A reasonably high-profile sports game is different, but I'm afraid the PSV version will do much less than the PS4 version. I don't think it will be negligible tho. A Switch version would've been welcome, probably, but my guess is the PS4 will cover the PSV's losses.
That was two weeks of digital sales
We don't have any hard number to claim MHW above or under MH4 in the first week
should they wait after smtv released to release the game?For a smt clone they should wait until the audience of the genre to be fully onboard first
Tons of downloads, but not much actual money being spent. Are they too lax on monetization?
Nintendo seems to have run into the same problem with Animal Crossing Pocket Camp.
So played it a few hours yesterday. Game is really interesting. Great style. But I never played an instruments and the game was REALLY hard for me. Took me an hour just to clear the tutorial. My wife used to play percussion she picked up the controller and more than doubled my top score on her very first try. So I get what you are saying, the game seems a lot better if you already have some musical skill. During the game you don't even have anything visually to guide you for when to play. You have to just know but the music. It's a fantastic concept but I cannot see it resonating with a lot of people. So even had they put some advertising behind this game, the sales probably would not have changed much. This is pretty much the definition of niche. Glad I bought it though.
Just look at first 3 weeks sales of MH4 and add 225k estimated eShop sales; you get around 2.65m. As for MHW estimate a drop in digital sales similar to physical drop. So yeah I have data backing me up. Of course there is an educated guess on MHW digital sales.
Wow did you had a bad day?
And as usual you don't understand how Nintendo games sells: Splatoon is gonna sell for years and there is no way Monster Hunter World beat it in Japan lifetime.
Splatoon 2 is only constrained by:
Now, it will be interesting how Nintendo will try to capitalize Splatoon success. Inklings in Smash porting/new entry are a given but I wouldn't be surprised to see a spin-off of some sort.
- Switch installed base and
- likelihood of a sequel.
Now, it will be interesting how Nintendo will try to capitalize Splatoon success. Inklings in Smash porting/new entry are a given but I wouldn't be surprised to see a spin-off of some sort.
It was stated in the relevant thread that the demo was build of sections from different worlds. That would explain why any pre-loading would not have worked. It should be expected that there is no problem when the sections are played in order and preloading if assets can be done.
Pretty much what I expected.
The other hints are not easy to guess though (the hell is Boyz 2 Men lol).
Bayonet is easy, but where did you get 20k?
20k for Bayo is expected but still a bit disappointing.
I'm glad the game exists and there's more to come, but from business stand point, maybe Sega was right in thinking that there's no market for the series.
It'll be interesting to see how it fares worldwide.
I'm glad the game exists and there's more to come, but from business stand point, maybe Sega was right in thinking that there's no market for the series.
It'll be interesting to see how it fares worldwide.
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