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HaremKing

Banned
Dec 20, 2018
2,416
I never really noticed how awful sales-wise DoA has been in Japan for quite some time now. It hasn't had a game reach 100k sales in Japan in almost 15 years, and those games were on 360 and original Xbox. Gotta go back almost 20 years for it to hit that number on a Sony console.

I would have thought with the high-res graphics gravure swimsuit model sim it would have at least done that.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
36,463
True. But having only 3 platformers for the first half of 2019 , was a major management blunder.
for some reason, the current crop of games are taking longer than expected.

Feel-Good is not that surprising considering Woolly world
Int Sys (as far as I know) is generally on time with what they make. It's the first HD FE, but CS was HD so the company has at least done it.
Then MP4 is all sorts of messed up.

I wonder what Q1 and Q2 2019 were supposed to initially be.


if FE, and Yoshi hit 2018, I wonder what Nintendo internally planned to be for the 1st half of this year.
My random guess:

AC would be Golden Week
Mario Maker might be earlier 2019.
Then a port or 2 like MPT and Pikmin 3.
 

foxuzamaki

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,606
I imagine FE has alot of under the hood stuff going on, that game is literally manage the numbers the game now, so much stuff to balance and to make sure you probably cant like fuck up a character or something.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
36,463
I imagine FE has alot of under the hood stuff going on, that game is literally manage the numbers the game now, so much stuff to balance and to make sure you probably cant like fuck up a character or something.
yeah, I'm not too harsh on Int Sys.

They get out games faster most Nintendo teams I can think of.
Several were handheld games, but still, I think they're efficient.

For example, I said before and still have somewhat faith that a Paper Mario is releasing in 2020.
(if FE actually hit 2018, of course I would be much more confident in my PM 2020 prediction from years back, but I'll stay with it)
 
Oct 29, 2017
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True. But having only 3 platformers for the first half of 2019 , was a major management blunder.

That wasn't the original plan though. FE: Three Houses was originally supposed to be launching in Spring (probably Golden Week), while rumours point towards Metroid Prime Trilogy HD being originally planned as a Q1 2019 release and held back due to MP4's cancellation and subsequent restarting.

It's not really a fault in their planning process, so much as their lineup being a victim of development hell. Mario Maker 2 was obviously the only thing that they could get out in time for the first half of 2019 (unless Labo 4 is indeed launching in the first half of this year - but that's its own sales category anyway; and doesn't exactly fill the gaping hole in their lineup). So they're stuck with a 2D platformer heavy lineup out of necessity (never mind the fact that both NSMBU DX and Yoshi's Crafted World were both, themselves, heavily delayed due to scheduling and development issues respectively).
 

Mbolibombo

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,043
for some reason, the current crop of games are taking longer than expected.

Feel-Good is not that surprising considering Woolly world
Int Sys (as far as I know) is generally on time with what they make. It's the first HD FE, but CS was HD so the company has at least done it.
Then MP4 is all sorts of messed up.

I wonder what Q1 and Q2 2019 were supposed to initially be.


if FE, and Yoshi hit 2018, I wonder what Nintendo internally planned to be for the 1st half of this year.
My random guess:

AC would be Golden Week
Mario Maker might be earlier 2019.
Then a port or 2 like MPT and Pikmin 3.

I dont think SMM2 would have been earlier, since we still have NSMBUDX... but it's not impossible since it's changed multiple of times and obviously the fact that Nintendo sits on finished games we're maybe far from the truth :P If I guess.. something like this maybe?

January: NSMBUDX
Feb:
Mar: MPT
April: Animal Crossing
May: Ultimate Alliance
June: SMM2

Animal Crossing during Golden week makes sense, Ultimate Alliance close to the last Avengers movie makes sense and a big game early summer is both neat and the promotion the first one got during E3 it seems like a good move. MPT because of rumors ;>
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
36,463
I dont think SMM2 would have been earlier, since we still have NSMBUDX... but it's not impossible since it's changed multiple of times and obviously the fact that Nintendo sits on finished games we're maybe far from the truth :P If I guess.. something like this maybe?

January: NSMBUDX
Feb:
Mar: MPT
April: Animal Crossing
May: Ultimate Alliance
June: SMM2

Animal Crossing during Golden week makes sense, Ultimate Alliance close to the last Avengers movie makes sense and a big game early summer is both neat and the promotion the first one got during E3 it seems like a good move. MPT because of rumors ;>
I had had to rewrite my post, but originally I wrote that maybe NSMBUX could've been a 2018 game. To release and then quickly get that christmas boost.

but either way yeah, I agree that lineup was maybe near the initial plan.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
36,463
Some delays seem to be really hurting Nintendo's plannings for the year.

I'm pretty sure they intended to release another first party game this semester, but couldn't because some games got delayed.

I would say that Fire Emblem fits in this situation very well

Post 1st delay, yeah, it was FE.
FE was officially moved to Spring 2019, so we know that for a fact it was intended for H1 post delay.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The original original line up might have just been MPT in Feb and Mario Maker in April (after a 2018 nsmb), DxM in June. it wouldn't necessarily have been packed with games.
 

Lite_Agent

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,572
Somewhere. I think.
I also was expecting Animal Crossing in June, and Mario Maker 2 for the end if the year with Pokemon, but it seems that both games shifted their expected release date.

Huh? June would've been a weird month for Animal Crossing imo (especially if you take into account the rumoured new Switch model, that will definitely launch with a big game... question remains: which one?). Either Golden Week (April release) or July (same spot as Splatoon 2, basically). But given how there's already FE in July, definitely not before September at the earliest.

I could see them go for Astral Chain > AC > LM3 > Pokémon + Zelda > something else in December.

oh that's right. i don't know where i got the idea that psx was that popular.

Probably due to Software sales. Unless I'm mistaking it with another platform, PS1 Software were really something else.

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Roller Coaster Tycon announced for Japan, May 16th. Retail release. Publishing by Oizumi Bombazio.

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http://www.o-amuzio.co.jp/games/rollercoastertycoonadv/
 
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Chris1964

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
GEO stores: Week 9, 2019 (25 Feb - 3 Mar)

01./01. [PS4] Anthem <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2019.02.22} (¥7.800)
02./00. [PS4] Dead or Alive 6 <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2019.03.01} (¥7.800)
03./00. [PS4] Left Alive <ADV> (Square Enix) {2019.02.28} (¥8.300)
04./03. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800)
05./06. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
06./02. [PS4] Jump Force <STG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.02.14} (¥8.200)
07./07. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980)
08./05. [PS4] Far Cry: New Dawn <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.02.15} (¥5.400)
09./09. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
10./04. [PS4] NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.02.21} (¥4.800)

Top 10

PS4 - 7
NSW - 3

"Anthem ranked 1st for 2 consecutive weeks. As a genre that is compatible with GEO, we performed a release campaign and sold at maximum power. National share rate is extremely high, and more than 1 in 3 people in Japan have purchased the game from GEO.

At new releases, Dead or Alive 6 ranked 2nd, and Left Alive ranked 3rd. Dead or Alive 6 is the first numbered entry after 6 years and I would like to expect the overseas evaluation is high. In other new work, Zoids Wild: King of Blast ranked 11th."
 
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Chris1964

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
11,155
English Version of Just Dance 2019 will release at 20 March for Switch from Ubisoft as download only, ¥5800+tax.
 
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Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
Famitsu Sales: Feb 2019 (Jan 28 - Feb 24)

01./01. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 139.950 / 780.356 (-78%)
02./03. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 129.303 / 465.742 (-62%)
03./02. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 110.534 / 2.885.281 (-73%)
04./04. [PS4] Resident Evil 2 # <ADV> (Capcom) {2019.01.25} (¥7.800) - 103.054 / 368.378 (-61%)
05./00. [PS4] Jump Force <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.02.14} (¥8.200) - 98.494 / NEW

Top 5

PS4 - 3
NSW - 2

SOFTWARE

Nintendo - 461.000
Square Enix - 238.000
Bandai Namco Games - 215.000

HARDWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Month | Last Month |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  NSW  |    240.942 |    432.062 |    171.988 |    673.004 |    441.035 |   7.562.550 |
| PS4 # |     87.756 |    220.823 |    264.042 |    308.579 |    594.179 |   7.860.669 |
| 3DS # |     15.551 |     44.055 |     51.313 |     59.606 |    164.505 |  24.364.570 |
| PSV # |      7.764 |      8.918 |     19.345 |     16.682 |     43.984 |   5.842.036 |
| XB1 # |        489 |        733 |      2.149 |      1.222 |      4.594 |     104.153 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    352.502 |    706.591 |    509.239 |  1.059.093 |  1.248.902 |  45.733.978 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 X |        410 |        559 |      1.803 |        969 |      3.857 |      14.425 |
| XB1 S |         79 |        174 |        346 |        253 |        737 |      17.726 |
|PS4 Pro|     34.157 |     80.081 |     48.316 |    114.238 |    115.562 |   1.086.828 |
|  PS4  |     53.599 |    140.742 |    215.726 |    194.341 |    478.617 |   6.773.841 |
|  PSV  |      7.764 |      8.918 |     19.345 |     16.682 |     43.984 |   5.842.036 |
|n-2DSLL|     10.884 |     34.938 |     31.527 |     45.822 |    108.379 |     990.066 |
|  2DS  |        116 |        975 |      2.432 |      1.091 |      7.245 |     585.709 |
| n-3DS |      4.551 |      8.142 |     17.354 |     12.693 |     48.881 |   5.868.518 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
 
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Chris1964

Chris1964

SalesEra Genius
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,155
Famitsu
"Switch is the hardware leader for 12 consecutive months, PS4 the software leader for 2 consecutive months.
In 2 years from launch (103 weeks) Switch exceeded 7,5m. It's outperforming Wii which exceeded 7 million units in 2 years (104 weeks).
Devil May Cry, Sekiro and Yoshi are the big titles scheduled to release at the last month of Fiscal Year."
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There is a possibility Famitsu gives a Switch report for its 2 years anniversary. Top 10 will be uninteresting since it's covered inside weekly top 30, potential top 20 will give updates for many titles.
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Week 10 has many candidates for underperformance.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,410
Huh? June would've been a weird month for Animal Crossing imo (especially if you take into account the rumoured new Switch model, that will definitely launch with a big game... question remains: which one?). Either Golden Week (April release) or July (same spot as Splatoon 2, basically). But given how there's already FE in July, definitely not before September at the earliest.

I could see them go for Astral Chain > AC > LM3 > Pokémon + Zelda > something else in December.

Why is June a wierd month for Animal Crossing but it's not for Mario Maker 2?
June is before summer, so it made sense to capitalize sales for the following two months.
Not happening now with MM2 and FE in June-July.
 

Mark H

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,679
wonder which mech game will be the next? DxM or Super Robot Wars
I seriously doubt that DxM nor Super Robot Wars would drop in price so fast.
SRW is a tried and tested series that isn't trying to do anything new, so retailors can probably see the demand better.
As for DxM, I wouldn't be surprised if it faces severe stock shortages, since retailors are going to be ultra cautious for it being a new IP in genre that doesn't sell.
 

CaviarMeths

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,655
Western Canada
I imagine FE has alot of under the hood stuff going on, that game is literally manage the numbers the game now, so much stuff to balance and to make sure you probably cant like fuck up a character or something.
yeah, I'm not too harsh on Int Sys.

They get out games faster most Nintendo teams I can think of.
Several were handheld games, but still, I think they're efficient.

For example, I said before and still have somewhat faith that a Paper Mario is releasing in 2020.
(if FE actually hit 2018, of course I would be much more confident in my PM 2020 prediction from years back, but I'll stay with it)
Worth keeping in mind too that FE is being co-developed by Koei Tecmo.
 

Lite_Agent

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,572
Somewhere. I think.
Why is June a wierd month for Animal Crossing but it's not for Mario Maker 2?
June is before summer, so it made sense to capitalize sales for the following two months.
Not happening now with MM2 and FE in June-July.

Where did I say June wasn't a weird month for SMM2? ;)

To be honest, I'm still suspicious about that June release for SMM2, especially given the lack of release date while Astral Chains got one despite releasing at least two months later).
 

casiopao

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
5,044
I seriously doubt that DxM nor Super Robot Wars would drop in price so fast.
SRW is a tried and tested series that isn't trying to do anything new, so retailors can probably see the demand better.
As for DxM, I wouldn't be surprised if it faces severe stock shortages, since retailors are going to be ultra cautious for it being a new IP in genre that doesn't sell.

I would not be so sure regarding SRW. Bamco recent record regarding mecha game sucks balls. Remember gundam v gundam and gundam breaker? Fiuhhh.
 

Turrican3

Member
Oct 27, 2017
781
Italy
Color Splash is about as likely to be ported as W101 or #FE. That game was an actual bomb, not just underperformed due to the Wii U.
Nintendo sent it to die however IIRC.

I'm quite confident with the way Switch software has been embraced by the userbase it could sell decently with proper marketing support (that I expect would come cheaper than developing a brand new game)

We'll see!
 

El Manco

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,145
PREDICTION LEAGUE MARCH 2019

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 25 to Mar 31):

[PS4] Devil May Cry 5 (24 days) - 222000
[PS4] Tom Clancy's The Division 2 (17 days) - 111000
[PS4 + NSW] Super Robot Wars T (12 days) - 199000
[PS4 + NSW] Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Scarlet (12 days) - 77000
[PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (10 days) - 199000
[NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World (3 days) - 133000
 

Kelanflyter

Banned
Nov 9, 2017
1,730
France

jnWake

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,108
I imagine Koei Tecmo helped with the graphics engine since 3H looks very similar to FE Warriors. Same crappy ground textures and all!
 

fiendcode

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,952
It's odd they don't specify it being Omega Force on FE3H, which I'm guessing it is? Same thing happened with DQB2.
 

fiendcode

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,952
Paper Mario Color Splash was in HD and they didn't outsourced it.
Like with most big Nintendo games there was quite a bit of outsourcing on Color Splash. A quick credit check and you'll see Neuron Age, Crafts & Meister, Digital Media Lab, Tose Software, Access Games, Alvion and others all also worked on it. It's not about being HD either, look at the credits for any Paper Mario, Fire Emblem or Wario Ware game on GC, Wii, DS, 3DS, even GBA, and you'll see the same.

Koei's higher profile credit on FE3H though does imply a greater degree of co-development.
 

Oregano

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,878
It's worth noting that the 3DS games weren't entirely developed by Intelligent Systems either. It's possible(/probable) that Koei Tecmo is taking on a much bigger role than studios like Red Entertainment did on the 3DS games though.
 

K Samedi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,991
Paper Mario Color Splash was in HD and they didn't outsourced it.
The budget of both games are not comparable at all. Fire Emblem is looking like a huge budget title with lots of staff needed to develop it. IntSys is rather small and with the mobile title going strong the best strategy would be to outsource it. I think the scope of the game also changed many times during development. Its not easy to sell low budget games on consoles. You really need to invest a lot of money to get a good return.
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,617
Koei has been getting their hands on all sorts of franchises.
I think they were the main developer on DQ Builders 2, they're making Marvel Ultimate Alliance, etc.
Perhaps their partnerships with DQ Heroes and FE Warriors lead to this deal.
 

Lite_Agent

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,572
Somewhere. I think.
Thanks.
Valuable information IMHO.
If Int Sys didn't developed this one on their own, it could mean they have another big game in the work (Paper Mario? Wario Ware? Advance Wars?)

Yes and no. Intelligent Systems have always been able to handle several "big" projects at once, so it's a given they're not just working on Fire Emblem: Three Houses.

We don't really know why KT was chosen to co-develop the game, we'll have to wait until we get interviews to find out. One thing we can say for sure is that it most likely stems from KT working on FEW.

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Dragon Quest X Ver. 4.5 out on March 20th.