DynamiteToad

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Looks crazy.

I also find it interesting that young music artist Grace Vanderwaal is in this. She won Americas Got Talent at 12 years old using only her original songs. Whether that show is fake or not is besides the point because she's a good song writer with a killer voice and apparently wrote several of the songs for the film.

What a strange beast this is. Whether it sucks or not, I'm there for the insanity. Come on Coppola, you got one more good one in ya!
 

Kiyamet

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Apr 21, 2024
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Since he spent $120,000,000 of his own money does this count as an indie film?

Also

Salva sexually assaulted a 12-year-old actor, and the ensuing investigation also uncovered sexually explicit child abuse materials in Salva's home.

Coppola stated, "You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small—Victor was practically a child himself." Salva was 29, 17 years older than Winters (12).

What the actual fuck? Yeah no fuck this. Hollywood has a Child Sexual Abuse problem and it sounds like Coppola is a part of enabling it. No wonder it had to be self funded.

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Nm the problem is systemic and its only self funded for financial reasons ugh....
 
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Memento Mori

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Oct 26, 2017
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What the actual fuck? Yeah no fuck this. Hollywood has a Child Sexual Abuse problem and it sounds like Coppola is a part of enabling it. No wonder it had to be self funded.
it was self-funded because no studio thought they would make their money back and they're probably correct on that no matter how good the film may be. Hollywood has no problem defending nonces, see the standing ovation for Polanski at the oscars.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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why didn't it just use the number 12? wtf
Yeah as someone else mentioned it's in the prior paragraph:

In a karmic way, Francis Ford Coppola's curse should at least in part be attributed to his connection to real-life monster Victor Salva. Impressed by the fledgling director's short film Something in the Basement, Coppola produced the feature adaptation Clownhouse. While making the movie, Salva sexually assaulted a 12-year-old actor, and the ensuing investigation also uncovered sexually explicit child abuse materials in Salva's home. Salva confessed and was convicted to three years in prison, of which he served 15 months before returning to a Hollywood that embraced him. Following his release, Coppola gave Salva $5000 to get back on his feet.

Salva was arrested before Clownhouse wrapped production, and his victim Nathan Forrest Winters claims that Coppola told him during this time that he would be blacklisted in Hollywood. The producer also threatened to sue Winters for breach of contract if he didn't finish his work on the film. When asked to comment about Salva during the height of the initial controversy, Coppola told the LA Times simply, "Victor is a talented young director." In a later interview with the Times, Coppola stated, "You have to remember, while this was a tragedy, that the difference in age between Victor and the boy was very small—Victor was practically a child himself." Salva was 29, 17 years older than Winters. In 2001, Coppola executive produced the first of Salva's Jeepers Creepers series, and he returned to the same role for the sequel in 2003. Combined, the films made over $120 million, proving that, in Hollywood, it isn't what you do but who you know.
 

Aldo

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it was self-funded because no studio thought they would make their money back and they're probably correct on that no matter how good the film may be. Hollywood has no problem defending nonces, see the standing ovation for Polanski at the oscars.
Maybe I'm too naive, but in this day and age everyone knows something like this won't be swept under the rug. I hope so.
 

CandySTX

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Mar 17, 2018
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Jesus fucking Christ. Not only he paid for this fucker's lawyers, he even threatened to sue the child's family for "breach of contract", essentially making them drop half of the charges. No wonder nobody wants to touch this movie.
What in the fuck?!

What's wrong with these people? That's any curiosity about the movie totally cratered.
 

viral

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Oct 25, 2017
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What the actual fuck? Yeah no fuck this. Hollywood has a Child Sexual Abuse problem and it sounds like Coppola is a part of enabling it. No wonder it had to be self funded.

Silva made 9 movies since his release, and Coppola 7. Hollywood doesn't care, this is just about money.
 

SolidSnakex

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Silva made 9 movies since his release, and Coppola 7. Hollywood doesn't care, this is just about money.

Silva at least may have had his career ended when MeToo happened since his last movie was in 2017. They rebooted Jeepers Creepers without him being involved at all. His last movie, Jeepers Creepers 3, even had a plotline about child molestation in which one of the characters says, "Can you blame him though?" when referring to the victim. And that's a movie that he not only directed, but also wrote.
 
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thenexus6

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Since he spent $120,000,000 of his own money does this count as an indie film?

Also





What the actual fuck? Yeah no fuck this. Hollywood has a Child Sexual Abuse problem and it sounds like Coppola is a part of enabling it. No wonder it had to be self funded.

:edit:

Nm the problem is systemic and its only self funded for financial reasons ugh....

This is highly disappointing
 

viral

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Oct 25, 2017
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Silva at least may have had his career ended when MeToo happened since his last movie was in 2017. They've even rebooted Jeepers Creepers without him being involved at all. His last movie, Jeepers Creepers 3, even had a plotline about child molestation in which one of the characters says, "Can you blame him though?" when referring to the victim. And that's a movie that he not only directed, but also wrote.

Holy shit, imagine getting away scot-free after sexually assaulting a 12-years old AND making child pornography, but that's not enough for you, you just have to indirectly bring up that you did nothing wrong 30 years later. What a piece of shit, really hope his career is dead for good now. And fuck Coppola for enabling him, and I really hope at least he changed his view on the matter, but I guess we'll never know.
 

Sunster

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Day one
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metsallica

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Oct 27, 2017
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Did he cut the screen interaction? Or do we get to play "spot the plant" at every showing?
 

sazz

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Coppola hasn't made a truly great film since the 70s, so I'm not too optimistic about this being a classic in the making, but I would be lying if I said I'm not intrigued, the teasers have been good

I have a feeling this film will be polarizing
 

horkrux

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Oct 27, 2017
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Watching this without sound on is a trip. No idea what's going on, but looks super interesting lol
 

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's an IMAX watch for sure.



Welp, learning some terrible history in this thread. Sigh.
 
Jul 18, 2018
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WTF, never knew about him supporting a pedo and demeaning the victim. Guess i'm not going to be financially supporting this film and hope he loses all his personal financial investment on it
 

thediamondage

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Oct 25, 2017
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will hand it to the trailer, i have no idea what the hell i just saw or how its a movie which is something you never see in trailers anymore, they seem to revel in revealing everything about a movie nowadays.

trailer reminded me of Babylon a lot to be honest.