Marshall, I wrote you but you still aint callin?My name is Ninja Scooter and ur out of gas, I broke ur dad's dick off in my ass.
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Marshall, I wrote you but you still aint callin?My name is Ninja Scooter and ur out of gas, I broke ur dad's dick off in my ass.
i hate how everyone in hip hop has to pretend that eminem is the goat, top 5 for that matter
it seems you are unable to seperate music from reality and you really hate eminem, good for you!Of course, but I'm just talking about this one specific point.
Kim is a horrifying song and whatever artistic merit it has is drowned out by the context that Eminem was broadcasting his fantasies about murdering his ex, tormenting her and likely causing huge amounts of anxiety that Eminem (a violent dude who assaulted her and owns guns) would try to kill her.
This ain't prime Em though.. Why do people just assume that this feud is an automatic win for Eminem?
Blackballing someone from the industry because they said your teenage daughter was hot when they were in their early 20s is the definition of overprotective. Creepier behavior than the tweet that set Eminem off, ironically.
I'm riding with MGK on this one. That was a solid diss. Lord knows Eminem's army of stans will say Eminem won no matter what.
I know it's opinions and all, but hearing someone say Eminem is "bad at rapping" is just absolutely baffling to me. You may not like the lyrics or subject matter, but his skill at rapping those lyrics are almost untouched. He's one of if not the best and is certainly top 5.
Hmm, are you saying Eminem vs. MGK is like current Derrick Rose vs. Emmanuel Mudiay?
Because I could allow that one.
1. Both these guys are fucking terrible at rapping
2. Eminem is clearly in the right here, MGK was 22 commenting on how attractive Eminem's 16 year old daughter was. That's incredibly creepy and bad behavior. MGK got good lines in about how pathetic Eminem is in general, but, uhh, MGK creeping on a 16 year old girl is, uhh, extremely bad. Also, anyone can point out how bad Eminem is at rapping. Eminem is obviously terrible so it's not like MGK was left with difficult material or anything.
Blackballing someone from the industry because they said your teenage daughter was hot when they were in their early 20s is the definition of overprotective. Creepier behavior than the tweet that set Eminem off, ironically.
I'm riding with MGK on this one. That was a solid diss. Lord knows Eminem's army of stans will say Eminem won no matter what.
I like The Sauce, probably should hate it being from Boston but he tore up Benzino.My favorite diss track from Em is still "The Warning". That was beyond savage. Also funny because Em always gets super butthurt about trivial things.
1. Both these guys are fucking terrible at rapping
2. Eminem is clearly in the right here, MGK was 22 commenting on how attractive Eminem's 16 year old daughter was. That's incredibly creepy and bad behavior. MGK got good lines in about how pathetic Eminem is in general, but, uhh, MGK creeping on a 16 year old girl is, uhh, extremely bad. Also, anyone can point out how bad Eminem is at rapping. Eminem is obviously terrible so it's not like MGK was left with difficult material or anything.
I like The Sauce, probably should hate it being from Boston but he tore up Benzino.
If you want to see reverse racism at work, just look at Era's hot takes on Eminem. White people feel like they have more hiphop cred by putting down the rapper who largely brought rap to the mainstream white demographic. Name another person with as large of a discrepancy in how Era views them and how high of an esteem they're held by their peers?
Probably the least-soft bellied target he's gone against outside maybe Canibus, and even that's not saying much. Eminem has never really been tested in the mainstream.
All those peers. Pretending.i hate how everyone in hip hop has to pretend that eminem is the goat, top 5 for that matter
Yes, going apeshit over a tweet that indicated no serious intent is creepy. The tweet even said no disrespect intended. It's still a dumb tweet, but blackballing a young upcoming artist from multiple outlets for years is a complete overreaction and an abuse of power.Really? What's more creepy is the father being protective when a 22 year old was creeping on the 16 year old daughter?
I'm without words.
In any case I like this response. And I fucking LOVE that he has the balls to respond to eminem while Joe Buddens and Drake are somewhere like "nope, nope nuh uh".
Era is dogshit when speaking on hip hop in general. Ignore it.
In any case I like this response. And I fucking LOVE that he has the balls to respond to eminem while Joe Buddens and Drake are somewhere like "nope, nope nuh uh".
Eminem ate everyone that came for his neck. Can, Benzino, all those dudes shot first, and got cooked. Lets not play games here. Its not that Eminem has not been tested by the mainstream, its that the mainstream watched him fillet those other niggas and decided they didnt want to test HIM. That's what excites me about this record even though its kinda mediocre. At least someone has a pair again. Shit, its overdue.
Probably the least-soft bellied target he's gone against outside maybe Canibus, and even that's not saying much. Eminem has never really been tested in the mainstream.
I agree that he did a good job slaying soft-bellied targets and made people scared of him, yeah. I don't doubt that Em could slay anyone in his prime - but he's never really been tested by anyone worthwhile since he blew up.Era is dogshit when speaking on hip hop in general. Ignore it.
In any case I like this response. And I fucking LOVE that he has the balls to respond to eminem while Joe Buddens and Drake are somewhere like "nope, nope nuh uh".
Eminem ate everyone that came for his neck. Can, Benzino, all those dudes shot first, and got cooked. Lets not play games here. Its not that Eminem has not been tested by the mainstream, its that the mainstream watched him fillet those other niggas and decided they didnt want to test HIM. That's what excites me about this record even though its kinda mediocre. At least someone has a pair again. Shit, its overdue.
There were some lines which people are saying was at Drake.
"You got some views, but you're still below me/Mine are higher, so when you compare our views, you get overlooked/And I don't say the hook unless I wrote the hook"
Nah. Canibus was psychologically declining from taking his L from LL and being forced underground. All of his jabs at Eminem were nothing but desperate attempts at getting back into mainstream eyes and thinly veiled jealously. This is coming from someone that could recite 2/3 of Canibus' discography word for word. The only other person I loved more than Eminem at the time was Canibus.Na thats BS. When canibus and Em were throwing lines at each other Canibus was a beast. Em never really went all in at Canibus and I think there was a reason for that. Canibus back then could go with anyone toe to toe.
I agree that he did a good job slaying soft-bellied targets and made people scared of him, yeah. I don't doubt that Em could slay anyone in his prime - but he's never really been tested by anyone worthwhile since he blew up.
There's no discord between what you and I are saying, I don't think.
Things are different now, though. I like this record for the same reason you do, which I stated earlier in the thread.
The thing is Em has never really had anyone elite come at him.
Even when Royce was murdering D12 Eminem didn't get involved
Nah. Canibus was psychologically declining from taking his L from LL and being forced underground. All of his jabs at Eminem were nothing but desperate attempts at getting back into mainstream eyes and thinly veiled jealously. This is coming from someone that could recite 2/3 of Canibus' discography word for word. The only other person I loved more than Eminem at the time was Canibus.
I know, that's part of my point.
I don't doubt that Eminem would have stayed just about anyone at the time: the main thing going for Eminem is that he could make listeners laugh. That's pretty much a TKO in any battle. But he's not nearly as sharp or as punchy anymore. Just angsty. Angst is easy to deal with and can be redirected at the source.
Name one other that is able to rap any flow, any style, any speed, bending words you didnt think was possible while being articulate and telling a story at the same time, I'll wait. He's a fucking robot on a technical level. I wouldn't put his ass on my top 5 but when it comes to success and skill he's pretty much unmatched which is why calling him the greatest rapper of all time makes sense. It's like sports, he got all the stats, doesnt mean u gotta like his shit doe.
I mean it's being honest. Gilbert arenas can't come at jordan and say he sucks. Nah. You go after his enormous jeans and other stuffhow you gonna diss someone and call them the goat at the same damn time?
People forget Eminem was throwing shots @ bis all the way back on the slim shady LP. Serious misconception that bis was the one instigating it all.
Still from 98-2003 bis was still a beast. Would have been a dope battle
Agree about the misconception of Bis, but disagree about Canibus being able to step to Em'. Pre 'Can-I-Bus' Canibus most definitely would have made things interesting. Post debut Canibus became a better musician/artist but lost a ton of confidence and swag that would have carried him in a battle with someone like Eminem at the time. He would have been clowned out of the building and essentially was, on an underground level. See "Can-I-Bitch".
Once Canibus settled underground, he became much less punchy and spiraled inward with his scientific psychobabble angle which is was not only alienating but super-easy to weaponize.