That sounds fine with me. I'm sure there are many Microsoft-published games that I would buy on Playstation, if given the option. They're a big company with a lot of studios.
That sounds fine with me. I'm sure there are many Microsoft-published games that I would buy on Playstation, if given the option. They're a big company with a lot of studios.
#2 publisher. Even with ABK, MS is still behind Nintendo for revenue or volume.Well, they chose being #1 publisher over being #3 console manufacturer
Rare was just a bit more than two decades ago.Every game on that chart was developed by a studio that was bought up over two decades of aggressive acquisition in the industry. Yes, it is factual but this article is kind of click-baity.
Good to see Sea of Thieves having success on Playstation already, that game really deserves it after the launch it had.
The issue with this comparison is that the competitive sector we're talking about (gaming) isn't the sum total of these corps. I mean, it nearly is for Nintendo but it's only a fraction for Sony and a tiny sliver for MS. By revenue last FY:Sonys market cap is ~$100 Billion dollars.
Nintendos market cap is ~$60 Billion dollars, but they are a walled garden.
Microsofts current market cap is ~$3 TRILLION dollars.
I get that people want to make it seem like there is some sort of competition going on between these companies, but they are all playing drastically different games. Sony could never hope to have as many "best-sellers" as Microsoft has, and I'm sure they don't ever expect to; but this fact won't stop them from being very successful. Nintendo doesn't care at all what others are doing, and are happy making bank in their own ecosystem.
**Edited with some more accurate numbers, thanks LuckyLocke !
When would be soon enough for the bolded? Xbox hardware is in a freefall state. It's one thing to rationalise why it might be a necessity for Microsoft to put their games on other consoles after gobbling up two massive publishers has made them more accountable for the growth however they can, but I don't know why some folks are so eager to conflate the decisions of one company with others when the circumstances could not be less similar.Nothing really to get worked up about. MS is the biggest publisher in the industry and exclusives are slowly becoming a thing of the past, so this is to be expected. We'll be seeing more MS games charting on the PS store and plenty of PS games charting on the Xbox store soon enough.
It's for the same reason people insist that Xbox consoles will become PCs and specifically have access to PS Studio games. They're just incredibly hung up on the idea of Sony games on Xbox as a win for the box they've stuck with.When would be soon enough for the bolded? Xbox hardware is in a freefall state. It's one thing to rationalise why it might be a necessity for Microsoft to put their games on other consoles after gobbling up two massive publishers has made them more accountable for the growth however they can, but I don't know why some folks are so eager to conflate the decisions of one company with others when the circumstances could not be less similar.
The more money MS brings in on PS5, the better it is for both companies.
MS makes more revenue. Sony makes more revenue. Everybody wins.
Bold seems a little sensational. As a consumer you would think we all want all games to be available on whatever platform we own?When would be soon enough for the bolded? Xbox hardware is in a freefall state. It's one thing to rationalise why it might be a necessity for Microsoft to put their games on other consoles after gobbling up two massive publishers has made them more accountable for the growth however they can, but I don't know why some folks are so eager to conflate the decisions of one company with others when the circumstances could not be less similar.
#2 publisher. Even with ABK, MS is still behind Nintendo for revenue or volume.
Rare was just a bit more than two decades ago.
If we apply the same logic to Sony they also only have one title by a studio they've held on to for longer than two decades, being an annualized license dependent sports series that's also been going since the 90s. Their other games also stem from a publisher acquisition and then several contracted 3rd parties.
The issue with this comparison is that the competitive sector we're talking about (gaming) isn't the sum total of these corps. I mean, it nearly is for Nintendo but it's only a fraction for Sony and a tiny sliver for MS. By revenue last FY:
Nintendo: 96.7%
Sony: 28.9%
Microsoft: 7.3%
Bold seems a little sensational. As a consumer you would think we all want all games to be available on whatever platform we own?
When would be soon enough for the bolded? Xbox hardware is in a freefall state. It's one thing to rationalise why it might be a necessity for Microsoft to put their games on other consoles after gobbling up two massive publishers has made them more accountable for the growth however they can, but I don't know why some folks are so eager to conflate the decisions of one company with others when the circumstances could not be less similar.
Bold seems a little sensational. As a consumer you would think we all want all games to be available on whatever platform we own?
There is a loop where exclusive games are funded to attract customers to a platform, platform sales feed back into first party and third party exclusive (marketing, bundle, timed) efforts, which feed back into more platform sales. Sure, as a consumer I would like to have all games on my platform, but healthy competition means businesses are actively engaging in one upping the competition for the sake of their own platform. The only reason we are seeing one of the three platform holders go this route is due to severe declines in their hardware platform, as a result of competition. We are even seeing their sub service in decline due to the former.2023 was a really poor year for Xbox consoles though. They posted their worst November in the USA since 2006 and December had them in 3rd place with $150-$100 discounts on the Series X. No point even talking about the Europe numbers which are worse. Ampere Analysis estimate the Xbox Series consoles were outsold 3:1 by the PS5 world wide in 2023.
PlayStation sales and blockbuster games propel console market back to growth
Sony outsells Microsoft’s Xbox and Nintendo’s Switch as sector recovers from post-pandemic slumpwww.ft.com
I seriously thought it's on again with the MS acquisitions but the whole thing kinda fizzled out because of it.
No need to wait lol, Sony is right there with Xbox going a little bit 3rd party. Nintendo will continue to do their own thing though.Because it's where the goal post has been moved to now from people who never thought Phil Spencer would get up in front of a camera and announce that Xbox games will be coming to Switch and Playstation. It's gone from "Xbox is not going third party" to "Okay Xbox is going a little bit third party but so is everyone else just wait!"
I remember when it was only a matter of time when Sony would be forced to follow MS and launch all their games on a service day 1. That take was so ubiquitous here that it still feels weird to see no one bring it up anymore lol
Yeah I've been asking this a lot too. It's really funny how the gospel of Phil has sold so many people on this shift, but I don't think it's a model that makes sense for Sony and Nintendo. PC releases are different. It's really a different market in a lot of ways and a lot of people with PCs also have a PS5 or Switch.When would be soon enough for the bolded? Xbox hardware is in a freefall state. It's one thing to rationalise why it might be a necessity for Microsoft to put their games on other consoles after gobbling up two massive publishers has made them more accountable for the growth however they can, but I don't know why some folks are so eager to conflate the decisions of one company with others when the circumstances could not be less similar.
Eh, watch them keep Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 as exclusives for the NextBoxI seriously thought it's on again with the MS acquisitions but the whole thing kinda fizzled out because of it.
Worked out great for starfieldEh, watch them keep Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 as exclusives for the NextBox
The problem I think a lot of people are having is that the economics of success for games publishers are different from what the hardware manufacturers had back in the 90s/00sCan't believe we're doing console wars when the biggest problem is all the titles are "things you can also do with your Fortnite box"
This goes for both platforms, it's just crumbs from the table from Fortnite, until it's crumbs from the table from GTA 6
The Fallout TV show will help with the halo (not Halo) effect that Microsoft needs.Eh, watch them keep Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 as exclusives for the NextBox
Man I hope Starfield comes to PS5, really would like to try it out without buying another Xbox Series X
I think it's more the gospel of Satya at this point given he telegraphed the 3rd party pivot back in his ABK trial testimony. This makes more sense for Microsoft anyway given how this is how the company operates at large. They support thier own infrastructures (Windows, Azure, Xbox, etc) but they also support competitive markets and ecosystems as primarily a services and software company. Because at their core that's what they are; software and services, not hardware or walled gardens. Xbox basically has to evolve to align with the larger corpo, though the continued userbase/subscriber hurdles and 3rd party acquisitions are also certainly helping speed things along.Yeah I've been asking this a lot too. It's really funny how the gospel of Phil has sold so many people on this shift, but I don't think it's a model that makes sense for Sony and Nintendo. PC releases are different. It's really a different market in a lot of ways and a lot of people with PCs also have a PS5 or Switch.
Yes absolutely, you're right, Sony and Nintendo should ditch their consoles too and bring their games everywhere else too.
If we apply the same logic to Sony they also only have one title by a studio they've held on to for longer than two decades, being an annualized license dependent sports series that's also been going since the 90s. Their other games also stem from a publisher acquisition and then several contracted 3rd parties.
I mean, the Rare acquisition is ancient history anyway. The fact you're reaching back two decades in the first place to try and make some point is sort of losing the plot. Microsoft didn't even have a console on shelves a year before they bought Rare and imagine if we applied this logic to Nintendo or Sony to single out and separate teams like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, Monolith, Retro, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, etc?Come on man, this is some big "awkshually" energy, dude. 21 years and 6 months versus me just making a blanket statement with two decades.
Relitigating old acquisitions is pointless now but framing it like Sony and Nintendo are on the same side here is off base too. They're not, they're as incomparable as either is from MS in some real fundamental ways.I don't care for using the same logic since I don't think anyone other than the writer for this clearly click-bait article cares about the top sellers for the month on the Sony list with a breakdown of who has more titles. When it comes down to it I would rather have Sony and Nintendo do what they do with getting third parties to make exclusive games rather than outright buy the developer (or in MS's case entire publishers) for a swath of reasons.
I mean, the Rare acquisition is ancient history anyway. The fact you're reaching back two decades in the first place to try and make some point is sort of losing the plot. Microsoft didn't even have a console on shelves a year before they bought Rare and imagine if we applied this logic to Nintendo or Sony to single out and separate teams like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, Monolith, Retro, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, etc?
You're describing Sony too.It's not losing the plot when one company has so much money they can outright buy developers left and right. Its in no way comparable to the acquisitions Sony and Nintendo have done in the same time frame.
I mean, outside ABK they're not so incomparable to Sony. Zenimax was about double the cost of Bungie, both being AAA pubs, otherwise it's a lot of midsize studios and support devs. And again, I also still see a lot more continuity between MS and Sony than Sony and Nintendo, the framing here is off regarding that. Nintendo's the only one whose acquisition strategy isn't really changing either, because it was so limited and targeted from the outset.It's not losing the plot when one company has so much money they can outright buy developers left and right. Its in no way comparable to the acquisitions Sony and Nintendo have done in the same time frame.