Did anyone see this article?
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/08/microsoft-project-xcloud-game-streaming-service/
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/08/microsoft-project-xcloud-game-streaming-service/
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Yea, it was linked to this thread in the previous page.There's also a thread about it right on the front page.
The future has arrived,
Man, Phil could be selling those boyscout cookies and I would be buying to him.
Man, Phil could be selling those boyscout cookies and I would be buying to him.
Apple wouldnt let Steam Link on their store because it had a store in it(i assume it still isnt on Apple's Store, idk). So that is more than likely the reason.
There is a reason Im not an Apple fan.
This is the right way to roll it out IMO. Doesn't dilute messaging for other next gen consoles. Makes it clear that streaming is in a testing/pilot stage. To me it's clear that this is in preparation for the 5G world.
Just searched for Steam Link on iPhone App store and nothing comes up...pretty shitty of Apple.
Imo it just means that they want to get the messaging right. Announcing this on a random Monday with a well-made video results in a better messaging than bury the announcenent with tons of other news that could only result in mixed messaging.
Yeah, this is something key to keep in mind. This streaming platform is really an investment into the future, it's easy to be skeptical because of things like latency, bandwidth, data caps, etc. but these are all these that will be addressed by 5G networks. That's not to say it'll ever be able to match the experience offered by dedicated local hardware, but this should hopefully do a great job in expanding audiences which is great for many reasons, but most exciting for me is how it will bring financial viability to more niche gaming experiences.
Agree and disagree. It will expand the base and reach more casuals but as a gaming enthusiast, if I can stream and play games on the go, I will. The preferred platform is a console hard-wired to my 65" Oled. Would love to have the ability to play games like Gears Tactics on a touch screen on the go. Even if streaming has latency on 4G, some games are fine with latency. Xcom, for example, is a game I'm playing right now that would be great on the go. If Microsoft ever gets Persona, that would be great on the go. Life is Strange is another example of a game I'm playing now that will work on the go.
Options are great for the gaming enthusiast and casual gamers.
Sure, it's still possible that it's there for only consoles...I just don't think it will happen...as I think at the beginning of next-generation is when Gold will go away and it will just be a tier of Game Pass or just done period and all you have is Game Pass.
It's all gonna be one sub like Office 365 but with different tiers for quality/# of users. They have the model, they are going to use it. They are still going to sell games and consoles (just like companies still sell music). MS is trying to grow their market and I think consolidating and making a better message is the start of that (outside of having the tech to backup your claims).
The launch of the "next-generation" isn't about the Scarlett console...but Xbox as a whole. I've said this before MS has been building up everything for the launch of their next console but it's really a "rebranding" if you will. The reason why I said what I said above is I think that Microsoft has positioned themselves to have the most broad spectrum to sell to gamers for next gen with a great swath of great games.
On launch day of the next console/streaming service you could have these options:
$10 gives you access to all of Microsoft's 1st party games at launch and past games from "last generation"
You can access them on:
A device you own (phone, tablet, pc, xbox one console) for "free"
A scarlett game console.
You have an option to buy games if you want, but you can pay $10 to play the latest and greatest from Microsoft. That's lowering the barrier for people...that's getting more users...that's how you reach the $2 billion gamers. You get all the devices that a person has access to or wants access to (scarlett), get them in a cheap subscription and having them pay monthly. The logic is sound and I'm very sure it will happen.
Oh and for everyone...this is another reason why Sony will put their first party in PSNow like Game Pass. The competition is different. But I don't want to dwell on that as this is a MS topic. But this is what changing the game is about.
So, maybe the cheaper hybrid (standard+cloud) model of Scarlett will be equipped in 5G connectivity.
I keep telling friends that Microsoft has always been ahead of the competition when it comes to gaming.
It was easy to see where they were going when they first started touting cloud compute, and when they finally rolled out game pass. What I like is that they are looking to roll out a product that works. It will be an interesting business going forward.
Yep, that, but also the fact alone that they decided to have a separate event from inside Xbox. They definitely will have something that warranted its own show. Could be new studio(s) or something else.
Phil did say they would have first and third party announcements. Remains to be seen if that means a new first party game or perhaps dlc for FH4 for example. I'm keeping my expectations low though.
I expect more first party megatons at X0 tbh. MS is getting all this tech in place (streaming, game pass, scarlett, etc) but it won't amount to much without exclusive content. They are at a disadvantage against Sony in this regard but well ahead of potential threats like Amazon and Google.
Also my out of left field prediction for X0 is MS drops XBL Gold and online play becomes free.
Also my out of left field prediction for X0 is MS drops XBL Gold and online play becomes free.
Microsoft have always been ahead of the game when it comes to what they roll out on services and what they look to accomplish at the hardware level.
I hope that they succeed with their vision, because it is that same vision that they had when they started out that had me investing on their console. This looks like the Microsoft that was ramping up for the next generation when they moved from Xbox to 360; only way better because they now have an idea of how to leverage everything they are great at to try and target as many users as possible. This is what leads into them trying to have an industry leading first party setup.
I expect at least three developers being brought into the fray. To have a show like X0 should mean that they have something significant to show.
You will get one first party game announcement a la Gamescom conferences. It's a mini E3 but it's not E3.
The megatons will come at E3; expecting first party megaton announcements at X0 is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
I don't think they have anything to announce like that. Not in the sense of them having another exclusive on the Gears 5 level for next year or spring 2020. The investments that they're making now are for next gen. Perhaps they have smaller titles like Battletoads to announce, though.
I'm sticking with my prediction that Ninja Theory will release a game in Fall 2019 or Q1 2020.
When do you folks reckon we'll get the Scarlett streaming device now that X-Cloud is a known quantity of sorts? Fall 2019 seems like the earliest to me.
I think that's possible. It depends on how much contract work they have to left complete, how much was spent in resources porting Hellblade to Xbox and VR, etc.
But I think it matters that they're punting on Forza Motorsport for next year. That shows their commitment to Scarlett better than anything. Any titles they have coming to Xbox One that aren't already announced (as in potential games other than Crackdown, Ori, Battletoads, Gears of War) are a bonus for me since I really think that Gears 5 is kind of the last big exclusive they'll have on the system.
The best part about the streaming service is that it's another way to strengthen the platform. With Play Anywhere, Gamepass and now streaming available day 1 as options the developers and publishers can use to increase their sales/revenue...
Phil has been consistently making the platform more attractive, and if they play their cards right the service can be successful in areas where xbox never were, making it a very hard platform to skip.
If that Phil tweet about going to Japan this week again, I'm sure we will see some more Japanese games at x018.
Phil has been consistently making the platform more attractive, and if they play their cards right the service can be successful in areas where xbox never were, making it a very hard platform to skip.
If that Phil tweet about going to Japan this week again, I'm sure we will see some more Japanese games at x018.
I did say that the benefit for core would being able to play anywhere, any time (Portable) in my original post.
Why we can't expect something huge? If PlayStation Experience could bring some megatons, so why X0 couldn't?
You are free to expect whatever you want, but don't be disappointed afterwards. Xbox is very E3-centric. With X0 events being back, this will obviously change a bit - but expecting E3-like (quality and quantity) announcements seems wrong. And no, PSX isn't doing that either.
I've been contemplating getting an Xbox One X for the past couple of weeks, I know it's an interim console, but with Red Dead 2 coming up I just wanted to play the best version of the game on console. I like the idea of having that luxury with third party games as well. I currently have 43' Sony 4K TV and a1080p Plasma.
With next gen being on the horizon (2020?), would it be wise to jump into an Xbox One X?
With next gen being on the horizon (2020?), would it be wise to jump into an Xbox One X?
Yea I just think we'll see game streaming maybe a studio acquisition or two if there is any and all of the Xbox games or third party marketing rights games that will come out between November and May people thinking they may see Fable or Halo Infinite are setting themselves up for a huge let down
I'd say yes...the console is incredible and realistically we're 18-25 months to new consoles...probably closer to 25 given MS' penchant to launch hardware in the fall.
That's still a ton of time and plenty of awesome content for it, you'll get your $$'s worth.
I love it so I'll always stan for it.
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-streaming
Basically everything we already know, but the quoted performance for streaming back in 2013 is very impressive
Basically everything we already know, but the quoted performance for streaming back in 2013 is very impressive
This is the right idea. Fable is way too early and they'll hold Halo for E3.
I expect information about Ori, a lot of information about Crackdown, maybe a Battletoads trailer. But I'm mostly hoping for a Gears 5 campaign demo. I want them to show off what they mean when they talk about exploring Sera and the skiff sections.
I would be excited to see a Crackdown demo. I would be thrilled to see Gears. Fable or Halo aren't realistic but I think Gears could show up.
so with Xcloud announced.
I think it might be possible Xbox announces a "Xbox TV" for next year for the streaming service.
-basically a apple tv, or a fire
100$, xbox tv, controller
I think it might be possible Xbox announces a "Xbox TV" for next year for the streaming service.
-basically a apple tv, or a fire
100$, xbox tv, controller
Well, damn. I agree with the people saying they wanted to get this out there without any possibility of mixed messaging and not necessarily because there is some huge announcement at X0.
I also agree with the people saying this will allow people to play the Scarlett games on this current generation of hardware.
I also agree with the people saying this will allow people to play the Scarlett games on this current generation of hardware.
Google's public test went live yesterday and they probably don't want google streaming service to dominate word of mouth for a month.
I expect MS streaming to be at XO but just maybe a date and zones of first tests and that's it as to not spend too much time with technical talk and that's why they gave us a first glimpse at it (kind of like when they gave a first look at Scorpio to the Digital Foundry team so they can speed through it at E3).
For Gold and MP I think it'll be way more simple and they'll just swap out MP and put in streaming. Boom. Done. (Also that would reduce problems with customers that have paid in advance for years of Gold and All Access clients).
I wonder wich zones will they test the streaming service in first.
If having more Azure servers increases the likelyhood I think we might see some tests here in Europe, as with just a quick look at the Azure servers map is pretty obvious it's the zone with the highest server density.
Edit: I wonder if the "We've architected a new customizable blade that can host the component parts of multiple Xbox One consoles, as well as the associated infrastructure supporting it. We will scale those custom blades in datacenters across Azure regions over time." part means that once you're in the service they'll update components over time so they can offer better FPS, resolution...
Also changing subjects, I've recently played through Halo Wars (1 and 2) and I find it really strange that it hasn't been ported to tablets and smartphones as I think it'll be perfect to play on the go and not too hard to accomodate touch controls in it.
For Gold and MP I think it'll be way more simple and they'll just swap out MP and put in streaming. Boom. Done. (Also that would reduce problems with customers that have paid in advance for years of Gold and All Access clients).
I wonder wich zones will they test the streaming service in first.
If having more Azure servers increases the likelyhood I think we might see some tests here in Europe, as with just a quick look at the Azure servers map is pretty obvious it's the zone with the highest server density.
Edit: I wonder if the "We've architected a new customizable blade that can host the component parts of multiple Xbox One consoles, as well as the associated infrastructure supporting it. We will scale those custom blades in datacenters across Azure regions over time." part means that once you're in the service they'll update components over time so they can offer better FPS, resolution...
Also changing subjects, I've recently played through Halo Wars (1 and 2) and I find it really strange that it hasn't been ported to tablets and smartphones as I think it'll be perfect to play on the go and not too hard to accomodate touch controls in it.
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Well, technically it's a blog post + highly produced videos + exclusive article in Wired :-P
I definitely don't see Xbox Live sub cost going away, even for just MP games. If anything, this justifies the cost even more than before.
From the Wired article:
That costs money and I don't see them adding a third subscription to the mix.
From the Wired article:
That costs money and I don't see them adding a third subscription to the mix.
XO18 Predictions:
Below release date
Ashen stealth release
Crackdown 3 MP re-reveal, playable on floor + a story mission
Forza Horizon 4 content reveal
Sea of Thieves content
Two acquisitions (I don't think they'll "save" anything that's basically set - just more opportunity to leak)
Fable tease/PGG confirmed dev
The Initiative dev visit (and a whole lot of screenshots of monitors with assets displayed)
Ninja Theory project reveal
Elite 2.0 controller (to make it an even 10 predictions)
EDIT: Battletoads reveal - maybe in place of Elite 2.0 (which might wait for Scarlet)
Below release date
Ashen stealth release
Crackdown 3 MP re-reveal, playable on floor + a story mission
Forza Horizon 4 content reveal
Sea of Thieves content
Two acquisitions (I don't think they'll "save" anything that's basically set - just more opportunity to leak)
Fable tease/PGG confirmed dev
The Initiative dev visit (and a whole lot of screenshots of monitors with assets displayed)
Ninja Theory project reveal
Elite 2.0 controller (to make it an even 10 predictions)
EDIT: Battletoads reveal - maybe in place of Elite 2.0 (which might wait for Scarlet)
X018 predictions:
Acqusitions
- Obsidian
--------- New IP teased, exclusive to Xbox and PC
- Asobo
- *tin foil hat* ( RELIC or DONTNOD )
Hardware
- Xbox TV
-----with the announcement of Xcloud, they are going to announce a streaming device, available late 2019. 100$, controller, streaming box
-------*tinfoil hat* steam big picture app is spotted
GAMES
- Gears 5
--- Multiplayer beta announcement, feburaru 28th 6 week beta
- Gears tactics, dated
- Halo infinite
----- Another teaser
-Crackdown (1 week delay)
- 3 new IP (1 aaa, 2x indie)
- splintercell made by UBI exclusive to xbox and PC
Horizon 4
- expansion dlc trailer
Fable
- teaser trailer
Acqusitions
- Obsidian
--------- New IP teased, exclusive to Xbox and PC
- Asobo
- *tin foil hat* ( RELIC or DONTNOD )
Hardware
- Xbox TV
-----with the announcement of Xcloud, they are going to announce a streaming device, available late 2019. 100$, controller, streaming box
-------*tinfoil hat* steam big picture app is spotted
GAMES
- Gears 5
--- Multiplayer beta announcement, feburaru 28th 6 week beta
- Gears tactics, dated
- Halo infinite
----- Another teaser
-Crackdown (1 week delay)
- 3 new IP (1 aaa, 2x indie)
- splintercell made by UBI exclusive to xbox and PC
Horizon 4
- expansion dlc trailer
Fable
- teaser trailer
It has to launch alongside the new Xbox to be seen as part of that generation. I mean what exactly would make it next gen if it wasn´t streaming Scarlet games at launch?
If it really wants to be marketed as a streaming version of the next Xbox (which I think it´ll be pretty successful as) it should not come before it, otherwise it would be seen as a separate streaming box/platform.
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