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Mid-gen Xbox roadmap hardware leak. Series S|X refreshes (digital-only 2TB Series X at $499), controller with haptics and quieter buttons at $69.99.
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Fortunately these decisions are taken years before. The PS5, PS5 pro and the smaller cheaper models have been planned for and in development for years. Lets agree to disagree and come back to this in 2 years. Unfortunately, I havent yet heard back from the people that were saying 1TB SSDs were going to remain expensive as well as those that said the PS5 pro would never be a thing.
Nice. I actually kind of dreamt of this scenario but didn't think it would come true lol. I also hope that they do something about digital resales. The worst thing about the whole Xbox One debacle was everyone ganged up on the whole premise and when they pulled back from it, they also pulled back from the digital resale piece.
What we have today is pretty horrible. Games bought digitally cannot be resold and the platform holders are making a pretty penny off that fact. Couple that with Sony's lack of third party store support and price competition is non existent for digital titles
There was a patent. It actually sounds pretty cool because it would allow any Xbox on the same network to play the physical game without having to manually move the physical game around.
Seems like you have a bone to pick! Sure I can agree to disagree for now but just to be sure, you're saying Sony will make the MSRP of the PS5 (Digital) $299 in 1-2 years? Not that it might go on sale for $299, that it'll be the official price.
I think having a PC XBOX account and verifying the disk by putting in a PC would be a better solution.
Most PC's don't have a disc drive much less a blu ray drive at this point.
PCs haven't had disc drive support in years. Which makes all the pearl clutching by folks a bit over the top IMO
Welcome to the year 2012
I would love that network disc drive though. That's a cool idea that I'd love for all my devices.
If thats the case, then yeah seems the entire industry is shifting (has)
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I'll take the one which isn't glossy, thanks.On another slide they show an all-black one.
No, no bone to pick, its just debates really. We'll have a $299 PS5 in 2 years from now.
Just seems like a no brainer to me they would have a USB BD drive in the works. Then for that network authentication of a disc thing you could either use an old Xb1 console you have laying around or get the USB drive to play disc games on the digital consoles. Although I kinda doubt they would let it connect to PC unless they're super confident in the hardware security. Letting PC read Xbox discs seems like it would lead to it being cracked at some point.
Nah, I'm good.
I honestly can't figure out why glossy of all things is considered "premium".
Because the nexus button and such are basically OLED touch screens under glass or some transparent material.
There was a patent that showed them looking into putting a display on the controller, maybe the glossy is just to hide the display underneath it?
I was there for those threads with rntongo, and people with low balling both systems before launch with a $500 price tag. We are all just making guesses based on info available right? It is more the dismissal that sticking to the price ceiling of the base system while being a DE is impossible that I find misguided.
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I know that people were definitely being hyperbolic with pricing. But considering how Sony makes very little PS5 Digital and I don't think they've confirmed if they're profitable, I think $399 will be the lower end of PS5 prices outside of a sale.
I love the idea of a network attached disc reader - you could make it like an old jukebox machine. Just load in 200 discs and it will read and catalogue each one, and reload the disc as/when you decide to play the game on a console or PC.
I'd expect it to take Valve, like, maybe a week or two from when they're publicly available. Given how it took Xbox ten months just to make the share button on the Series controllers work on Windows, Steam will probably be the only way to use the gyro on PC for years.
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Yeah people were putting the systems in a $599 ball park before launch.
I feel that this idea of the DE console not being profitable to produce / being less profitable doesn't take into account the 100% guarantee that Sony will make more money from that customer through digital purchases.
That lower price is only a temporary subsidy. At least until there is an optional disc drive (for the newer consoles at least).
Someone buys God of War Ragnarok and Spider Man 2 and Sony have probably broken even at the very worst I think. That calculation is probably trickier for Xbox with Game Pass.
When people refer to the profitability of producing a device they aren't considering the long term/LTV of the customer. A DE PS5 is less likely to be profitable for Sony because a Blu-ray drive does not cost $100. It's an additional subsidy to the device, thus making it more of a loss in comparison. Are Series S owners more profitable to MS because it's all digital, or are XSX owners because they are more likely to be dedicated players that spend more money on games?
None of that matters when just talking about the raw costs of manufacturing the device and what it sells for at retail.
And the lower price is a permanent subsidy when looking at the impact of it on the business. Your consumers are not guaranteed to spend money on games. A F2P only player never needs to subscribe to PS+/Core, never needs to buy MTX, could just game-share with someone else, etc. That subsidy is a fixed amount when calculating for the hardware.
Qualcomm is making some impressive strides with their upcoming ARM chips.
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They're matching (even exceeding) Apple on ST performance (including the A17 Pro) and intel's i9 mobile CPU (13th gen).
They're speaking on their partnership with Microsoft (Hopefully they'll have a consistent upkeep of GPU drivers). It's meant for Windows PCs and it has DX12 support (Raytracing), the product is meant for laptop's first.
GPU benchmark is of course synthetic (3DMark Wildlife Extreme), there are differences in practice as mobile GPUs are designed for Tile Based Rendering (TBR) archtiecture.
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They're matching (even exceeding) Apple on ST performance (including the A17 Pro) and intel's i9 mobile CPU (13th gen).
They're speaking on their partnership with Microsoft (Hopefully they'll have a consistent upkeep of GPU drivers). It's meant for Windows PCs and it has DX12 support (Raytracing), the product is meant for laptop's first.
GPU benchmark is of course synthetic (3DMark Wildlife Extreme), there are differences in practice as mobile GPUs are designed for Tile Based Rendering (TBR) archtiecture.
I'm all for ARM with those gains and Microsoft plans to use more ARM for their products in the future. The synergy can't be ignored, especially if Xbox still believes cloud is the future. I think that could be one difference between the consoles going forward.Qualcomm is making some impressive strides with their upcoming ARM chips.
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They're matching (even exceeding) Apple on ST performance (including the A17 Pro) and intel's i9 mobile CPU (13th gen).
They're speaking on their partnership with Microsoft (Hopefully they'll have a consistent upkeep of GPU drivers). It's meant for Windows PCs and it has DX12 support (Raytracing), the product is meant for laptop's first.
GPU benchmark is of course synthetic (3DMark Wildlife Extreme), there are differences in practice as mobile GPUs are designed for Tile Based Rendering (TBR) archtiecture.
The consoles are extremely close in performance and a bit more differences wouldn't be to bad for the industry and gamers imo. It would make for more interesting comparisons and lead to Sony and MS learning from each other more again. I think innovation would also increase. As a owner of all consoles, it would also make the decision for which console to buy a game more interesting.
Obviously backwards compatibility is a challenge, but I believe MS is better equipped to get current gen games running on ARM than PS. They just seem to have more experience with those topics. If they decide for ARM some convenient BC solution has to be part of it. I don't believe any platform holder can get away with "reseting" the digital library so to speak.
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