It's gonna be hilarious the second someone very talented like recreates a fairly good Mario kart or Mario game when Nintendo loses their absolute shit.
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Minecraft being created within Dreams PS4. This guy is seriously talented.
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oh my god . . . that is blowing my mind. we have results like this already? my dream of doing a Stunt Race FX type spiritual successor may actually be doable
There're plenty of people trying original creations, but there're also people trying existing creations to learn the tools and familiarize themselves with what's possible in Dreams. Remember the early access has only been out a couple of weeks, it takes time for people to learn and then apply that knowledge.
I'd love to try to make a full-fledged JRPG in this but can't really justify it from a money perspective.
Right? Dreams coming true. I will tackle Final Fantasy XI Beastmaster, I will likely fail, but I might as well, it a easy to use way to make your dream game.
You really know nothing about Dreams to make this statement.
I disagree pretty strongly with basically your entire post, but here's a couple of things just on the above point.
- A game doesn't have to be fully featured and have hours worth of content for it to be interesting and worth playing.
This is because the Autosurf function exists, games load basically instantly, and shorter experiences are simply easier to produce. What you are doing is equivalent to a person in 2005 shitting on Youtube videos because they aren't Scoresese films - you are ignoring the strengths of the new format and focusing entirely on how it compares disfavourably to what we already have.
There are a handful of Dreams games that have kept my attention for 30+ minutes , but my favorite thing to do at this point in Dreams' cycle is to try a bunch of different games or experiences in quick succession. I have a blast just experiencing the creativity of other users and seeing all the neat shit that they have made, whether that be a beautiful vista they have designed, an inventive gameplay mechanic, one well-executed jump-scare, or a dumb joke that makes me laugh.
This kind of stuff is a heck of a lot more interesting to me than Ubisoft Open World Game #245, even though the latter passes your test of being a fully-featured, multi-hour experience. I haven't stopped playing and creating in Dreams since it came out, and it's competing with Sekiro for my time - a great game in a series that I adore.
I REALLY hope this game succeeds. Games like this and Project Spark (which had it's fair share of problems) can inspire SO MANY people to start on the path of game development. It's also a great way to teach coding or computer logic, which is an essencial skill in the workforce today. If I had kids I would be getting them this.
This stuff is nuts, especially when you consider people are putting this together in their spare time.
The ignorance/negativity in your posts on this thread is frankly astounding (and also ignorant about lbp, which has no excuse as an established franchise)
Mario maker for example is beloved and is much more limited in scope than Dreams.
This right here is going to be the biggest hurdle for Dreams imo. I really hope they figure out some way that people will be able to sell their creations in-game. It's probably going to be pretty hard, but that is going to turn this from a "game" to a "platform".
The draw of Dreams isn't "come make a full-fledged 2+ year full time project that would be worth selling on another platform". Is it possible? I think so, and I'm sure we'll see a couple crazy, dedicated creators take a crack at that down the line. But that's not the point, and I don't even know why you would come in here wanting or expecting that.
The draw of Dreams is being a powerful all-in-one creation tool for PS4 that lets you easily create, collaborate, share, and play/view other people's art at the drop of a hat. They can be games, music, 3D-sculpts, little animations or movies, dioramas, etc.. Yes, typically these are going to be things you spend 5-15 minutes checking out and then moving on, like you would with a game jam or a collection of student projects. What's wrong with that? That's awesome.
I don't really understand why people are still so dismissive at what this is.
The draw of Dreams is being a powerful all-in-one creation tool for PS4 that lets you easily create, collaborate, share, and play/view other people's art at the drop of a hat. They can be games, music, 3D-sculpts, little animations or movies, dioramas, etc.. Yes, typically these are going to be things you spend 5-15 minutes checking out and then moving on, like you would with a game jam or a collection of student projects. What's wrong with that? That's awesome.
I don't really understand why people are still so dismissive at what this is.
Isnt MM beloved because it offers a proper a Mario experience? It isnt like it is a game maker, it is called Mario Maker and it is exatly what you get
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Most community levels in MM are mediocre too but yeah it is a more focused experience for sure.
This is very well put
The first game is really making me want a new Marble Madness game. If someone could create a Super Monkey Ball sequel in Dreams, oh man...what I wouldn't give to have a sequel like the first two games.
I honestly was very dismissive of Dreams at it's initial reveal thinking it was more akin to little big planet or something, but after seeing more and more videos of what can be achieved within this game man my mind is blown at how impressive it is. Dreams might be my most anticipated game ever. Dreams doesn't even seem like a "game", it's more like a multi function 3D entertainment creation engine.
Yup good times ahead. Can't wait to see what Dreams will be able to do on the PS5 and PSVR 2.
Patreon exists. You can even make an opening splash page that says "support me on patreon.com/xxxxxxx". Not too hard. People do this already with a lot of things. It doesn't have to be monetized on the actual PlayStation. And "donations" bypass the potential for copyright infringement.
There is one, its called Ka-boom! Can't find any videos on it, but is pretty solid.
Briefly tried looking it up, couldn't find any either but when I buy Dreams I'll make sure to look for it. The current projects people have made are mind-blowing, can only imagine where Dreams will be years down the line.
Wow looks like if I get a PS5 dreams will be the only game I need. Somebody will probably make The Last of Us 3 in dreams before Sony actually makes it.
The vehicle levels have me hoping someone will make a Twisted Metal/Vigilante 8 successor. Once you get the mechanics hashed out, you could have some crazy fun with level design.
If I buy the beta can I play other people creations or just create my own?
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I have nostalgia for this game and really want to try this lol
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I have nostalgia for this game and really want to try this lol
Some people seem awfully skeptical of whether Dreams will pay off or not in terms of content, but as someone with no background in game design (But created a bunch of stuff in the LBP series), Dreams seems like the natural next step for both the player and MM; like I thought it was cool I could make my own levels in LBP but its limitations were there. Dreams really does feel you could create anything. I'm not sure if the Puppet Show has already been posted here, but people will find unique and cool things to create.
Wow, game looks great from the picture, won't let me see it through the site, but I'm picking up Dreams likely this week anyhow so I'll give it a shot.
Thanks for the assistance.
Calling it now, this is going to be a killer app for PSVR/PSVR2. Just endless experiences to enjoy.
I'm curious. How would you feel if someone remade Breath of Death VII in dreams?
I'm quite curious how the VR stuff is.
I figure the Dreams timeline is actually a quite long timeline.
Now, early access where people get to learn the tools to create interesting things for the full release this fall.
After the full release people get to continue to learn the tools and make more fun stuff until the ps5 comes out.
the ps5 is actually when Dreams really starts, and sony starts to market it, with over a year of user creations to show off, and now with the ability to create a lot larger and more detailed things on the ps5 (using an upgraded version of the ps4 game running on the ps5) by the time the psvr 2.0 comes out people will have had a least a year of making VR experiences in dreams and offer a ton of things for sony to show off with that. Since a lot of VR games are more experiences than games right now it will basically give sony a huge pool of exclusive VR content to sell to people that is constantly growing for free to try to push VR to the casual market.
Always the same nonsense speech.
Level showing a recreation of something popular: 'yeah but its not as cool as the real thing! Nothing original about this'
Level showing original content: 'yeah but real talented people will use Unreal / Unity instead'
And the loop goes on.
Dreams is about having fun while making games, its about a community, its laughter and joy.
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What a perfect response. Oh the memories of LBP, good times, though I never liked the floaty jumps of LBP1, I hear LBP2 allowed you to make more solid jumps.
Note that it says visual copy. I.e. it looks the part but doesn't play like it. While recreating looks certainly shows that the tools are neat it's a far cry from the truly impressive parts of Minecraft, the infinite, fully modifiable worlds. When you just say "recreate Minecraft" that's the first thing one would think of, not the graphics style and it's much more of a challenge for an engine to handle.