If anything my fear would be the opposite. Without Hashino Atlus might want to play it super safe because of the new fans brought in with 5 and that this will be, in all likelihood, Atlus's most expensive game yet. I hope I'm wrong. I still expect there to be Social Links, calendars, and dungeon crawling, but I hope they find ways to mix it up and keep things fresh.
Wild that needed the edit 😄
Since you are still around, not banned and you clarified about the ff7 rebirth fail, I guess some of your atlus sources might be legit. Actually at some point I thought you were Midori lol
? P5 was announced to also come to the PS4 in Sony's pre-tgs conference:
That's right pre-tgs only to announce a PS4 version. Every new trailer and reveals were done by Atlus during their own events and the game was never show during Sony E3 for example.
What can Sony do about that exactly? It's not like they are publishing them, so what sway they got would come down to throwing money at them. Is that really a tactics good enough to make a game come out faster?
Yup, I pointed the same thing out in another thread. You have Capcom, Sega and many more Japanese devs putting more focus on PC and multi platform dev because they realise that they can get way more sales this way, and grow the series exponentially outside of Japan. Then you have Square who seem stuck in the PS2 era back when PS actually sells well in Japan... Its definitely gonna come back to bite them eventually.
I think most of their teams have transitioned into the more modern multiplat strategy. SMTV seemed to have been just a scuffed development from the beginning what with directors changing. If they were the SMT4 team who only have been experienced with up to 3ds specs than it would be no wonder they had a hard time with hd development. We should be over the scuffed HD era games now.
Which is insane to me given how good these games are. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons SEGA made that deal with Microsoft, at least Xbox is putting Atlus' games front and center on their events.
In general both Switch and PS are better platforms for jrpg sales than PC. PC is good of course but I think there's a tendency to massively exaggerate the sales on the platform.
PC has it's own intricacies (more price sensitive, heavily catalog based, etc) but it really is a huge platform for the genre too, we have too many crazy success stories on it realistically say otherwise. Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Tales, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza, Persona, Final Fantasy, NieR, Dragon's Dogma, Monster Hunter, Ys, Trails, Palworld, etc, have all seen installments sell competitively and even lead in sales sometimes on PC. Globally it's vitally important too in markets where consoles are traditionally weaker (Asia outside Japan, eastern Europe, Central & South America, Middle East, Africa, etc).
Oh definitely. If you're a jrpg you want to be on PC for sure but there's a tendency on here to suggest it's always the leading platform when the data we have suggests it's not. For Souls games absolutely it is without question, but for traditional jrpgs it does well of course but generally still behind PS/Switch. I'm not arguing against the notion that there's a sizeable audience for this genre on the platform but rather the notion that it's the primary platform.
JRPGs on Steam are a new thing for sure, but I think steam users are catching up. According to steamdb Tales of Arise has 32263 reviews (with a player peak of 60274). We know that is sold 3 millions up until February 2024. The available tracking would put ita bit shy of 1 million, so pc accounts for less than 1/3 total sales (most likely PS platforms are on top)
Yeah, I think that's fair. The truth is the biggest JRPG markets also tend to be those where consoles lead (Japan, US, France, etc) so there's a bit of synergy to that. And also one of the biggest JRPG pubs is console only (Nintendo) while some notable studios are console only or console lead too (like Vanillaware, Falcom, etc).
Waiting in the physical Switch 2 version hopefully including all the DLC on card.
I think my point was more about direction of travel than overall sales in the here and now. But yes, you're both right that PlayStation is a bigger market for JRPGs than PC. For now.
I'd guess no, but there's a reason why they've put P3 through P5 and now put Reload on Game Pass. Sega will be looking for (and will get) that same pop in audience that they did by putting all of those Yakuza games including Like a Dragon on Game Pass prior to outright selling Infinite Wealth. They seem to be taking the super easy, available methods of growing an audience for future sales.
Tracking off just reviews can vary wildy, it's why all the tracking outlets who do this to also factor player counts, revenue charts and sometimes also direct sampling into their methodology.
The question is how long after till it's added. 6-12 months? They clearly love subscription money.
I know you are joking but this legit reminded me of a guy I knew that got a PS3 for The Last Guardian lol.
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Well they are putting the dlc for reload on GP, even though it seems have sold well (what the share on Xbox is idk). Also remember it'll also be on PC (not just the console).
Playing the latest entries next to any modern JRPG is why. Hell in the many SV threads some of the people defending it were saying they shouldn't be compared to that and how they just did their own thing. So ... can't really walk that back solely for a sales discussion. Oh now it's a JRPG again for the sake of arguing it's the best selling one.
Seems like the new guard for Persona are moving more towards DLC expansions as opposed to separate releases.
What was the clarification for Rebirth? I believe him on Atlus for the record but I'm curious how the square stuff concluded
