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Yeah, Like I said. It should've been over. 2022 was something else. Talent wise that team isn't much better than the past 2 years, if at all.
Poole and Wiggins becoming worse, etc.
Klay and green...weren't much better 2022 for real. We talked about dray and klay being benched back then too. Stephs defense was better, but overall he had some ups and downs in the playoffs and was trash in the regular season.
That season they just won close games for whatever reason
Was it really just opj and sporadic bjelica 🤣
But actually, given talent wasn't that great back then, it shows how other things matter
imo warriors and fan should be just happy the team became steph and co fun gang for 2-3 year
pay klay his draymond money, play the young guys
avoid tax by waiving cp3 and trade gp3+looney to bad teams with bundling 2nd rounder + protected picks
team maybe still in playoff next year, with the young guys improving
there no path for this team to win chip again
pay klay his draymond money, play the young guys
avoid tax by waiving cp3 and trade gp3+looney to bad teams with bundling 2nd rounder + protected picks
team maybe still in playoff next year, with the young guys improving
there no path for this team to win chip again
He won a title after Durant left. How many has KD won before or after?
2 titles as the best player on a generational team would still be pretty sick, though I could be convinced they'd win one more finals even without KD.
Wiggins and Poole are just mindboggling to think about. Wiggins was outplaying people for multiple series and was an elite defender. I don't know if the personal stuff really just fucked him up. Poole simply isnt a serious person but damn.
Gary Payton actually contributed on a title team. TMac, not so much…
Hopefully it's more like the former
the 2022 title changes this imo. He dragged them to a title with Andrew Wiggins as his number 2. thats career defining even if he never wins those two with KD. I think prior to that yeah losing with a 73 win team would have been a much bigger part of his legacy.
Yes
From 2016 to 2019 he would have played with a different SF than Kevin Durant.
Curry would also look very different if his parents were asian. Makes you think 🤔
You'd think after 2022 they'd all just shut up
But who am I kidding, nature of the beast and all that yadda yadda yadda
shout outs to Sacramento, at least it wasn't against the lakers
They probably should trade him as a favor to him but they won't.
High probablility GS would've gone 16-0 in 2017 and 2018.
Actually they they would've gone 16-0 in 2019 too with no kd since kds salary was sitting injured not playing
I actually can argue they would've never lost a game again again if you run the scenarios
I do believe we are starting to enter a new NBA era. It's going to be cool to see what stars emerge this postseason.
Props to CP3 for overcoming his addiction
Not that it would ever happen, but Curry on the Magic would be perfect
Curry doesn't have time for a completely new system to be built though. You either try to repair the current one that's tailored to his specific skills, or trade him to a team and plug him into theirs.
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Yeah it shows how it all adds up. Curry/Klay/Dray weren't much better/worse.
But Poole carried a significant amount of offensive production in the regular season for them, when other Warriors didn't have it. He's a big piece of why the warriors had the playoffs seeding they did.
Wiggins was much better as well. And GP2/OPJ were instrumental in the playoffs in the defined roles they had. Couple that with Looney being much more spry than he is today.
That's 5 roleplayers outside of their core 3 that were significant impacts in their title run. That have either fallen off a cliff or who are injured/no longer with the team
Poole in those 2022 playoffs was fucking prime tony parker
insane run they got out of him before being one of the worst players in the nba
insane run they got out of him before being one of the worst players in the nba
Plus Moody and kuminga also helped in the regular season despite not playing much in the playoffs
But yea, that highlights how small the margins are at the top. Small things change everything.
I said back then gs could've done it all the same but imo they don't chip without gp2, if they select Bradley over gp2 in the preseason. And steph and green openly wanted Bradley. More impactful decision than their draft picks
Crazy how small things change everything. And outside of Phoenix they just figured out the most how to win games they were losing in the 4th (Phoenix ungodly clutchness ran out in the postseason of course)
Oof
Well Kerr ain't paying him so...
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Need more people to openly trash draymond Please.
I have a lot of TP hate in my heart as a Mavs fan but this is slander. Poole was good but TP at his best was an All NBA player
It might be completely unrelated but it's hard not to think being way out of shape for a good chunk of the year contributed to this
10 years from now I'm still going to laugh at Chris Paul addicted to the finals memes. Sometimes something just hits lol
I don't understand how that relates to my statement, both can be and are true
Edit: to clarify, your statement and mine about him being out of shape specifically
I mean if somebody punched you in the face how would you be?
Yeah, he looked pretty out of shape during the in season tournament, but after that it looked like he got progressively more in shape
At the end of the season he looked like the defensive beast that he was in college. IIRC he had a game where he got 6 steals and another where he had 5 blocks.
Fucking sucks that he got injured, but hopefully it's just a tweak and he's able to get though it.
I don't think that's really a valid explanation, and it wasn't a good chunk of the season he was way out of shape. Ever since the IST (early December) he's been on his game, much more in shape, and dedicated. We are talking about 3/4 of the season
View: https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1769758870132457552?t=93YeB1sE6sClCjHajWEh3g&s=19
Bruh, maybe this is semantic but I consider a whole fourth of the season as being a good chunk
Like everyone else don't need to lose 25 lbs mid season to be considered "in -shape", which I still don't think he's at his maximum physical shape or close to it
I just think I could see your point if his turnaround was Jan/Feb or like the all star break or something. But we are talking about last calendar year. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, idk. I just don't really see that as a factor unless something tells me otherwise, when all signs point to him hitting his stride.
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