I would agree, but you'll never convince the majority of people, or at least Americans, to want to buy a small car. Small city cars don't even sell well as it is despite being affordable and economical.
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New wave of electric cars. It's about time.
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I would agree, but you'll never convince the majority of people, or at least Americans, to want to buy a small car. Small city cars don't even sell well as it is despite being affordable and economical.
1) charge sessions are 30 minutes to an hour depending on what you need. That's a bathroom break or lunch.
2) that's a problem although they're starting to add stations to apartments and condos here.
You might wanna see a doctor.
Also, that is the ideal time, not the norm yet for most electric cars in the budget range.
No I just have kids. I don't think I've ever stopped anywhere for less time than that.
Yup, as much as I pooh-pooh electric, it's mostly because of number 1 there. Give me a range of ~1200km on a truck-type platform so I can get to the middle of fucking nowhere and back down shitty dirt roads, then we can talk. Unfortunately, as with most rural-related issues, I suspect the population density and number of people needing this is low enough that there isn't sufficient incentive for companies to bother trying. Capitalism!
Yup. Tesla interiors are shocking.
Give me some of this:
I like a loot the interiors of the latest A6, A7 and A8 series, but in terms of exterior design the one which trully like is the Elaine (former known as the e-Tron Sportback), which will arrive a year later.
But is not surprising: currently own a 2014's A5 and the only Audi I like from outside in their current versions is the A5. The E-Tron isn't as good loking as the I-Pace or the Taycan (well, as the Mission E prototype). Anyway I salute any carmaker pushing the EVs, no matter if we are talking about the luxury segment, the premium one or just the affordable models. The most the choices are, the better.
German luxury reliability hasnt been great in the past 20 years, I would wait and see before jumping in.
And a electric Jaguar just sounds like a nightmare since the electronics are usually what goes on a Jag.
And a electric Jaguar just sounds like a nightmare since the electronics are usually what goes on a Jag.
Is the problem the infortaiment system or anything else? Because yes, we known that some brands can struggle with those (there's a reason due the latest Astons are using the electronics and operative system from MB), but in terms of electronics hasn't to be that way: Bugatti has the Chiron with no navigator screen due they known that two years later any Ford Fiesta would made it obsolete. Surprisingly, probably the currently most advanced user interface developed for a road-legal car is probably the in-house made by Rimac to the Concept_One and the C_Two. And Jaguar, despite having a background of faulty cars, had no problems implementing a HUD in the I-Pace (a device grossly absent in the Teslas).
True, that's why the manufacturer that's going to disrupt the industry probably won't be American or interested in the NA market.
Is that reputation based on the quality of modern Jaguar or past Jaguar with Lucas electronics?
The budget EVs are intended to be a 2nd or 3rd car for a household. Only Teslas at the moment are capable of being "the one" car in a household due to having both the range and charging network required for road trips. Aside from using Superchargers, Teslas have the highest-capacity onboard chargers which lets them use the full capacity of 50 amp outlets available at RV campsites if you venture out from interstates.
Modern Jaguars are actually pretty good. At least since the mid 2000's. They've really improved a lot.
For real? They are going to remove the virtual cockpit from the S and X models too and slap a monitor in the middle?This is a concept rendering of the Model S/X redesign coming up in a few years:
I'm not a Tesla owner but in terms of design preference, once I got into minimalism I can't go back.
The e-tron concept interior is based on the new Audi design philosophy from the A6/7/8 series, which is quite nice imo. It is simple, but stylish like all Audi interiors.
Yeah I gotta say Audi is absolutely killing it when it comes to interior design with their latest batch of cars. Completely out of my price range of course, but I'll take them over Tesla's infuriating insistence on a single tablet any day of the week.
Bruh if you ain't sitting on the toilet playing with your cellphone for 30 minutes at a time then I got something to tell you.
You don't disrupt an industry by ignoring one of the largest sectors in it.
Which essentially proves my point that the tech isn't there yet, because the lowest end Tesla's still don't fit the budget category AND they don't have viable range yet.
The Model S is a hatchback and is the most normal looking car you'll ever see
They definitely shouldn't try cater to them as a market. Otherwise they will make those big cars with wasted empty seats.
Using the model 3 touchscreen is much easier than using Audi MMI.
Latest Audi models have touchscreen infotainment screens finally.
It might be easier to navigate the options, but for him, and me, its a worse overall design. The problem is they put literally everything on it.
I expect used EVs with practical range to reach the affordability threshold pretty soon. But with the way car sharing and automation is going, I think the idea of owning a car is going to seem like an extravagance in less than 10 years. The lower per mile cost of EVs will allow for a wider range of profitable business models for selling transportation. In fact, Waymo is launching this year.
And that's stupid, especially in terms EVs. Thanks to the lack of ICE in those cars, the cargo space is much bigger. A small car can easily compete with a small sedan in cargo space.
Give me some of this:
I'm think I'm gonna puke. It looks like it could be the interior of the Homer.
Is it bigger though? While at least the electric motor is smaller than an engine/transmission, you still have a large amount of batteries to pack somewhere. Though I guess you can get away with storing them below the passengers which is what most cars are doing now. And people are dumb, because from what I've seen they think larger car = more space. And its not just the space inside, they actually want a car that's physically larger. Just look at how many people here that drive an SUV and rarely or never fill it up.
Also, people think larger cars are safer, even though these days with modern safety technology they're really no better than small cars. Also, large trucks and SUV's are actually less safe than cars, as trucks have or at least had, less strict safety standards.
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Plug-in hybrids and electric w/ ICE generator engines are certainly the kind of half step cars I can see getting popular before a wider rollout of charging stations. I'd certainly buy one if I actually had the money to afford one, or if charging it doesn't involve crossing 5 lanes of wild traffic to my job since there's no charge points at my work.
Also, I recently got a compact car because I just need a cheap way to get to work and back that no crossover will give. 33 MPG and still enough room to actually do most haul jobs.
Also, I recently got a compact car because I just need a cheap way to get to work and back that no crossover will give. 33 MPG and still enough room to actually do most haul jobs.
Love my chevy volt. Cant wait till Electric gets better/cheaper tho and I move into a house where I can upgrade my power. Currently Im in a Condo so my only option for power is 110v plug so the charge takes 10ish hours for full charge of the smaller battery the volts have.
It's cool seeing new EVs, but I'm still miffed at the discontinued Chevy Spark EV a couple years ago. It feels like car manufacturers still see EV as a scary term for whatever reason and only wanna put a tiny investment into it. I really think making a cheaper starter car with minimal bells and whistles that's electric will help things along more than higher end performance vehicles, though I do see the logic behind it. Smaller batches to customers, letting people who will pay more for a car already foot the bill for R&D, gradual infrastructure chance, etc. I just really wanna see some more consumer level options than the C-Max/Fusion Energi, Volt, Leaf, and Prius Prime (I don't consider the Model 3 a consumer car yet because you have to pay 60+k to get one not on back order).
Been seriously considering buying an electric car in the near future, but I have a bunch of questions about buying one that make me wish we had an OT or other resource for that sort of thing. It's hard to get answers to the questions I have on google.
I still think that the Nio ES8 has the most cutting edge stuff build into it. A personal tamagotchi like AI called Nomi, ability to automatically change the battery in 3 minutes etc.
With the ease of building electric cars Chinese are going to become a mayor player imo.
I mean Ssangyoung sold more cars in Germany then Tesla did (Jan- June 2018). And that's not even an EV.
With the ease of building electric cars Chinese are going to become a mayor player imo.
I mean Ssangyoung sold more cars in Germany then Tesla did (Jan- June 2018). And that's not even an EV.
what about the 2022 VW Bus? It's will have a range of 1,000 km and 0-100 kmph in 6 seconds. supposedly
I like my current ICE Citroën, but i'm incredibly excited with how electrics have exploded onto the market the last 5 or so years. It really is a revolution and sooner or later the majority of cars sold will be electric.
I'll be in the market for a new car in 3 to 4 years. At that point I hope there to be a decent selection of relatively affordable EV's out there.
I'll be in the market for a new car in 3 to 4 years. At that point I hope there to be a decent selection of relatively affordable EV's out there.
It's apparent that Audi still has some catching up to do with their efficiency. While it is a little unfair to compare a SUV to a sedan or an even smaller car like the Bolt, the Model X gets almost the same range of the e-tron quattro with a much smaller 75 kWh battery (237 miles) and at the top of the spectrum you get 47 more miles from a battery that's slightly bigger (100 kWh vs 95 kWh).
It's great that the competition is finally starting to get serious in this segment, though. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the VW ID Concept turns out.
With that form factor and a competitive price it will be very successful in Europe.
Americans are weird when it comes to cars. They're obsessed with huge sedans, trucks and SUVs, and I have absolutely no idea why. In Europe, it's family hatchbacks and smaller crossover SUVs that rule the roost.
... and soon the world will be crying short of essential resources getting diminished for batteries...
Electric cars nice in theory to cut carbon emitions but really still need more focus on the hydrogen cell and technology around that which has gone super quiet because there is an easier option right now...
Electric cars nice in theory to cut carbon emitions but really still need more focus on the hydrogen cell and technology around that which has gone super quiet because there is an easier option right now...
This seems like it would end up being a regressive redistribution...
