I highly doubt Hoyo will ever make a game that isn't gacha at this point. Way too profitable for them.
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New Zenless Zone Zero Trailer (feat. new characters) + New Beta - Sign Ups available now
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Some gacha devs have made paths into the console business.
Looking at Cygames and now Shiftup.
I've wondered before if Mihoyo will eventually hit a saturation point with gacha where they might start making other types of games.
Just remembered Ex Astris which is only available on mobile but is a b2p game.
Looking at Cygames and now Shiftup.
I've wondered before if Mihoyo will eventually hit a saturation point with gacha where they might start making other types of games.
Just remembered Ex Astris which is only available on mobile but is a b2p game.
Some new things posted on Hoyolab:
Quality of Life stuff
System changes/new content in the beta
I guess the big things are
- TV mode gets a 2x speed mode
- New type of commissions that seem to be combat only, no TV mode in those (at least it reads that way)
- Story missions have selectable difficulty, Casual or Challenge
- new city areas
- new faction "Sons of Calydon"
- new story chapter(s?)
and there's more
Quality of Life stuff
System changes/new content in the beta
I guess the big things are
- TV mode gets a 2x speed mode
- New type of commissions that seem to be combat only, no TV mode in those (at least it reads that way)
- Story missions have selectable difficulty, Casual or Challenge
- new city areas
- new faction "Sons of Calydon"
- new story chapter(s?)
and there's more
So I take it they're still forcing "resin" for story missions?
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View: https://x.com/mrpokke/status/1780881202708386263?s=46&t=dfO9xQcBbu9Y9DV1ZMp0Vg
List of changes and all of them sound great.
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If I understand, 3 + Standard. I don't know how the Bangboo banner works or if the weapon banner is 75/25, or 50/50.
That's kinda concerning, the game would have to be stupid generous to make pulling across all those worth it
Well if the betas's progress won't be carried to the full release then I don't feel like sad for not getting in
Pls don't tell me that those banners can be funded with wishes that you buy with real money to get the characters and then they just evaporate after release and you don't get any character you spent money on.
Pls don't tell me that those banners can be funded with wishes that you buy with real money to get the characters and then they just evaporate after release and you don't get any character you spent money on.
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In China you can spend apparently but that money gets added to your account for full release.
Nothing from the beta transfers over progress wise.
Ah if those get transferred to your account then it's fine. It gonna be funny seeing that you unlocked a certain character in the beta that you wanted with real money but then later in the retail game you fail to get. XD
One of the Hoyolab posts said that you can get the Bangboo pull tickets from Hollow Zero and other game modes. You can probably still use premium currency to exchange for it on top of that though, yeah.
Can anyone tell me how ois the exploration of this game? Is it fully open world with multiple levels of verticality like Genshin or boring linear and limited like Star rail with segmented areas?
Yeah Hoyo are getting better in animations with every enw game they have.
That character in the left corner looks like Chevreue and POM-POM fused. XD
Yeah Hoyo are getting better in animations with every enw game they have.
Grabbed from a stream but here us what the Bangboo banner looks like
It has a higher rate for A rank than character banner and it seems to have its own pull tickets? I assume you can exchange for it with regular currency.
That character in the left corner looks like Chevreue and POM-POM fused. XD
[Looks up standard 5s]
Damn they are pretty disappointing, only 1 dude and most of em look like 4 stars, Von Lycaon it is
The design for the girls have been very weak so far. The cop lady's ok for a regular human. Von Lycaon, Ben, Billy Kidd all knock it out of the park.
The game doesn't really have exploration like that. It has a few hubs you can walk around with some persona social elements, but the main gameplay part is a roguelike that goes into combat arenas when its time to fight. Some of the combat sections have longer levels that are linear and have multiple combat arenas, but it's less than even Star Rail when it comes to exploration. Just not that kind of game
So it's close to Honkai Imact 3rd? I don't know if I gonna liek this very much.
I saw a Snake mini game and it was hard but even with that extra i don't know how I gonna feel about it.
It uses the same system but it's a little different. You basically craft the artifacts, and you get to influence which set you get and I think the main stat as well? There's also 6 total artifact slots, with the set bonus still being 4pc at the highest so you get a little more flexibity compared to genshin and especially HSR which has none.
It's still gonna be a grind of course but definitely not as bad as HSR and maybe a little better than genshin
Wait, wasn't the original banner set up with Bangboo that they had their own table so they were more like bonus pulls?
With this new set up the one that loses value is the standard banner isn't it? since the Bangboo's currency will be the farmable/droppable one
With this new set up the one that loses value is the standard banner isn't it? since the Bangboo's currency will be the farmable/droppable one
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I think they were part of the 4* guarantees and also could take a 5* guarantee on Standard. I know people were worried about 3 things on one banner. I could be wrong though.
Definitely one of its strong points. The art style is also far from the typical/existing HoYo games and I love it.
I don't like "pets" thingies, same for the ELFs in 3rd. That's why I haven't pull in those fucking banners in my 4 years of playing 3rd. This one seems to function differently from that... I don't know how to feel about it.
Grace, 11 and Lycaon, nice. There's Alexandrina as well, but I'm not really that fond of her compared to the other 3. Don't really have any interest on Koleda and Nekomata.
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I'm just going to wait till people get to further in the beta to watch footage because the early game gameplay looks really boring with the basic grunts standing in place for long periods of time.
Some of the later enemies looked promising in the last beta footage and I expect to hopefully see some more of that once people start getting to the new content.
Some of the later enemies looked promising in the last beta footage and I expect to hopefully see some more of that once people start getting to the new content.
Also the way the dudes can be non human and the girls are like ears and tail at the most.
The way worse jiggle than their already cringe levels in their other games also signals the target market
Looks like you can't actually use premium currency to exchange for Bangboo bulls, they seem to be in-game rewards only (though there are apparently some extra in the Premium Battlepass track).
Hopefully they don't eat too much into Standard pulls/Premium currency you'd be getting otherwise from these modes, but not being third banner that dilutes your premium pulls is definitely a good thing imo.
I'm honestly not hyped about ZZZ at all.
I dig the vibe and some of the weirder characters look great, but most look really generic, like they're randomizing some Mihoyo character creator.
And the fact that it seems to be another HI3 linear hack and slash is really really really unappealing.
NOW, if they later do a HSR kind of bigger spinoff (I'd love a more open world version of that world), I'm in. But I'll be skipping it.
I dig the vibe and some of the weirder characters look great, but most look really generic, like they're randomizing some Mihoyo character creator.
And the fact that it seems to be another HI3 linear hack and slash is really really really unappealing.
NOW, if they later do a HSR kind of bigger spinoff (I'd love a more open world version of that world), I'm in. But I'll be skipping it.
That may be the strat for me this time. Spent a lot of money in HSR and ended up dropping it anyway because the RNG on gear was so bad, close to E7 tier.
Same. I've been playing both Genshin and Star Rail since release and have a grand total of 0 pulls on their weapon banners. It's totally fine. I have no reason to believe it will be different here.
If a game with character banners has a "mandatory" weapon banner it's not a game worth playing.
So I haven't finished the prologue yet but I'm enjoying it. Definitely not playing this on mobile though. The camera controls alone would drive me up a wall. Also been having to deal with this glitch where all the TV screens just show static so I can't actually see what I'm interacting with. I solved a simple block puzzle because it was tutorialized well enough but this is going to cause problems. I don't even have an "old" phone either it's just a year old.
About this banner talk. I didn't play Star Rail so I don't know how it worked but if you lose the 50/50 or 75/25 for the on banner pity do you guarantee the on banner item next pity like in Genshin or is it still not guaranteed?
About this banner talk. I didn't play Star Rail so I don't know how it worked but if you lose the 50/50 or 75/25 for the on banner pity do you guarantee the on banner item next pity like in Genshin or is it still not guaranteed?
Don't tell me you can lose twice before getting the weapon like Genshin?
Another write up from the same user (Mate's doing a good amount of heavy lifting):
I do say, 11 looks different from CBT1 (talking about the lighting). I prefer the CBT1 lighting; this one looks messy to me.
I do say, 11 looks different from CBT1 (talking about the lighting). I prefer the CBT1 lighting; this one looks messy to me.
Why there is another chance to entre for a raffle to win staff and another opportunity to be in the beta? I thought this beta already started and entries are closed unless it is is for another beta (not talking about PS5 one).