Proof of identity? Klobrille is known, I don't think he would just now being providing proof of identity lol, and it really doesn't read like that to me at all.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread - MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE
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I would not be surprised if the CPU and traditional GPU were roughly the same given AMD only has so much on the table, the "power" difference may be down to how much RT each side throws at it. If Microsoft are going all in they might believe they will have the edge on "power" by whatever contrived metric they associate with RT They know what AMD can deliver at what date and cost so it's not like they are blink to what the Sony may do and vice versa.
E3 cannot come soon enough
E3 cannot come soon enough
Aikjio lr something like that seems like a Sony insider. But I dont know if he's
Welcome to the forum mate. You need to check Xbox studios thread :)
It would be interesting if there was some kind of info on how MS aims to achieve their goals.
I'm pretty sure we left those behind at NeoGAF.
PS4 Pro and PS4 Base will - imo - be products that end their lifecycle at the same time.
Unless there's cross-gen games where it cannot run on base, but can do so on Pro/5, it makes no sense to ditch the most low cost and affordable model.
Yeah exactly. Look at the pricing of the discless X.
I expect MS at E3 to give the same info Sony did. Phil might even say it will be more powerful. He knows thats what X fans want to hear and of course he wants the buzz about next gen talks to be about them.
MS knows they have to bring things to the table. Since they dont have strong exclusives they have focused on more power, BC, and Gamepass value.
They will talk about Xcloud and tease what their acquired new studios are working on.
er no
that proof was obviously not identity but something detailing plans... or at least summarizing them.
the entire thing with reference to security means he can't post it or MS would certainly come after era/him
The problem is bigger than that. There's also the decision of choosing a hardware design not knowing the intention of your competitor. Microsoft cannot aspire to build a clearly better performing machine while simultaneously second-guessing Sony's full and final design choices. The permutations between $399-499 are far too great. The same problem arises not knowing how much of a loss your competitor--who has generated consistently higher revenues in the gaming space--is willing to take on their own console. The only way Xbox can guarantee a higher performance console is if they resolve to build and retail a $599 spec machine from the outset. It's also the only sure way to safeguard against misinformation that might otherwise shape your design choices.
Sony does random out of the blue Wired articles instead of controlled leaks.
Forgive me, but he is known? He's an anonymous poster. He's not 'verified'. From his post, he said he was offering Nibel proof of how he would know this was MS's aim. That reads like he was proving to Nibel something about how he was in a position to know what MS's aim was - i.e. something about his identity, or something about how it has come to his knowledge what MS was aiming for. But not proof of the veracity of that as a claim of what would actually happen. AFAIK, per others posters above, Klobrille himself isn't even claiming to know whether it's something that will actually happen, vs something MS is 'aiming for'.
Security related screams identity related, or something that might lead people to uncover his identity or the identity of others.
He is anonymous to us, I suspect not to some Mods/Admins here.
If we talk about the content he may shared with Nibel it could be a document that just describes each step of the release (Dev Kits and API releases). For Xbox One X there was such a document too. IIRC that document had some specs and targets in it. Some of them came to existence others not or not at once (like the HDMI 2.1 capabilities).
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I didn't think about that. Also, they could even re-brand the pro as the ps5 _____ that would compete with lockhart.
just curious, what your thoughts are on anaconda. Do you think MS is pretty determined to make anaconda more powerful than the ps5?
I think RT will be here to stay and hopefully all consoles support it. Seen a couple of videos from NVIDIA with engineers explaining that not only will games look better but, it will also help devs develop easier. They said devs spend an absurd amount of time trying to get lightning and materials looking right and RT will help with that, the problem is that it's rather intensive and so you need good machines to run that on.
I like those more at least is from an official source. Hopefully we'll know more about both consoles this year!
I'm still not certain MS will be showing anything other than a teaser at E3, if these consoles are to release at the end of 2020 it's way too early to show a full reveal.
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So, he must have proof of Xbox having two chips, soc with CPU + GPU and discrete GPU. IIRC there was also a past rumor of PS5 going also discrete this gen. So anyone could end being more powerful.
I'll just repost what I wrote in the other thread here:
The moment it was 'leaked' to us that MS has a 2-SKU strategy, one could immediately make an educated guess that the reason for that is because they want to have their premium SKU be the most powerful SKU in the market. We saw this with the X this gen, and we knew prior to that that the X was a strategic move to reclaim the power throne which MS valued a lot. There's absolutely nothing weird about MS still wanting and aiming to have the power crown.
Will they achieve that goal? We won't know until the final specs are out there.
The moment it was 'leaked' to us that MS has a 2-SKU strategy, one could immediately make an educated guess that the reason for that is because they want to have their premium SKU be the most powerful SKU in the market. We saw this with the X this gen, and we knew prior to that that the X was a strategic move to reclaim the power throne which MS valued a lot. There's absolutely nothing weird about MS still wanting and aiming to have the power crown.
Will they achieve that goal? We won't know until the final specs are out there.
Klobrille has been posting inside info for months and months, he is known. Also, the wording of his post implies that he was sharing some kind of internal information.
"To add transparency, I've sent proof as to why I know Anaconda aims to be the the (wording suggests clearly) better performing device to Nibel. He can decide the rest "
The bolded clearly suggests that it's some sort of internal info he's reading.
2013-gen consoles are severely hindered by their Jaguar CPUs. It would be undesirable to anchor/tether next-gen consoles to them. Especially in light of what is arriving next.
I see it like this. The PS4 would have the advantage of being cheaper. The Pro would have the advantage of being more powerful. Imo, if someone has not bought a PS4 yet, they will care far more about the former.
This is pretty much on point which makes people asking me for Anaconda/Lockhart specs even weirder (and please stop doing that).
I had a different read of that sentence - I read the emphasis on proof of 'why I would know' re. the aim, rather than re. the outcome.
Listen though, if he has indeed claimed to know, himself, that Ananconda will be more powerful, then it's fair to for people to revert to the questions being asked earlier. It just seemed to me people were putting too much heat on him and Brad Sams vs what they actually said thusfar, IMO. They really haven't said very much.
Thanks for clarifying.
There's honestly no point in speculating what Nibel could have seen. What if it was proof definitive of an NVME 4.0 SSD? What if it was proof definitive of HBM? We honestly have no idea. Do i expect it to be more powerful than ps5? Yes, will it be a huge difference? No, now that it sounds like ps5 will also be $499 (also speculation) it doesn't sound like it will be a massive difference
With them saying that the PS5 is a "revolution", I really doubt they would do that. Pro's hardware on paper is much weaker than the PS5's. Sony is not afraid to leave a platform behind if it can't provide the technologies/advances they want to use.
That could wind up being a pretty big deal if they get the price right on Lockhart.
Hmqgg clealry said in other thread that next Xbox will be the most powerful console without providing any proof, and also he knows nothing about PS5
oh yeah, forgot about that. Was he the one that said Japan?
Well yea, they never claimed to know that Anaconda will be more powerful.
I am totally against that move. Making all games for the Pro would negate the several of the PS5 hardware advantages that could fuel the new gameplay systems.
PS5 game could have a combat encounter scene where Kratos is fighting against 50 enemies+ [soldiers, spellcasters, giants] inside a burning town with 1000 of civilians fleeing arround him. On PS4 Pro, its Jaguar could not even come close handling all that enemy AIs, NPC charachters, and burning city. Same as with Shadow of Mordor on PS3, both visuals and core gameplay would have to be cut and downsized dramatically [they threw away the Nemesis system].
Or, PS5 games could be made to specifically take advantage from ultra-fast storage. The protagonist can be a teleporter, who can in one action scene quickly visit 15 locations just to land few punches on some big enemy. One new location every few seconds. All those fully featured locations could not be loaded in time PS4 Pro's laptop HDD.
I hope for a short "crossgen period", and then the arrival of nextgen-only games. In Gen8, this period lasted for about year and a half. Unity arrived one year after PS4/xbone launched, and it took a bit more time for devs to release more optimized games. This time there will be even less tools/software roadblocks, devs will be more prepared.
Klorbie is Phil Spencer confirmed ??? We knew he was lurking in era :D Haha
Of course I m joking
This one the patents we already knew about or a new one?
https://www.inverse.com/article/55122-ps5-sony-vr-headset-playstation-5
https://www.inverse.com/article/55122-ps5-sony-vr-headset-playstation-5
If leaks and rumors were candies and nuts, then everyday would be Erntedankfest.
Okay to shift to another prediction. 3 days in we already have reached 40 pages.
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Please no.dont give them ideas
Let next gen be designed for SSD, zen2 cpu and a juicy 11 TF console and not be shackled by fuckin jaguar and Polaris and hdd
TbH making the old Jaguar Konsole the low end for next Gen would be beyond stupid in my opinion
Or 'weakest' and 'most expensive', depending on your point of view ;)
I'm glad you raised that point. It's not outlandish to suggest Sony could have been sending wrong signals (e.g. 8 TFLOPS, price conscious, unwilling to break £399 barrier). There's precedent.
And how do you know ms does controlled leaks but sony doesn't?
Also, I might love you for that last line.
Why backpedaling? Why laughing? You said what you said. It's your burden now.
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