Don't they also include the entire card, and not just the GPU die?
Yes, They also include VRAM. All 8GB of it.
Nice post....... I have given up on talking to Colbert about his charts. Now I just look at te as nothing more than his pure personal opinions and not necessarily objective ones. Its like he has some srt f 10TF limit in his head and adjust everything else to meet it.
I mean as you have planted out,he also reference the chart adore TV GPU leak chart (at least now he's acknowledging its existence) and he just somehow ignored the details in that chart. For my calculations I am going to assume that when performance comparisons were made they were referring to the base spec. So no water cooling, just looking at what clocks these GPUs need to be r to hit those specs.
Navi 12 (40CU) is equivalent in power to a Vega 56 (which is an 8-10TF GPU) thats 1570Mhz (8TF) or 1960Mhz (10TF)
Navi 10 (48CU) is equivalent to vega 64 +10%, thats a 10 - 12TF GPU even without adding the 10-15%. So to gt Navi 10 to that performance level clocks will be 1630Mhz (10TF) to 1960Mhz (12TF). Again, stillnot even accounting for the 10-15% better performance which if I did would translate to all round lower clocks.
I am not even going to get into Navi 10 SE.
Yep yep. I think Panello's estimates are getting people to question themselves all over again. We have been through all of this months ago and are now back to discussing sub 10 tflops consoles. lol
I actually think t's ok to trust Panello since he is pretty much the only one here with direct knowledge of MS's plans but he did leave 9 months ago back when MS was sure of having a more powerful console since everyone assumed Sony would be going with a $399 standard fan cooled system. But things have changed since then. When Brad Sams all of a sudden pointed out that MS was only trying to match Sony's performance targets instead of outright blowing past them, it became obvious that MS had underestimated Sony once again and were playing catch up. Panello wouldnt know this because he was already long gone. I would say Brad's sources are much more current than Panello's.
It's very curious that right around the time Brad said that bit about MS matching Sony's performance, we had begun to discuss the SSD rumors and started to take them seriously. I think MS caught wind of it around the same time and made the assumption that Sony wasnt going to go with a $399 console anymore and has since shifted focus to making sure they get the most tflops out of a $499 console. Which time and time again, seems to point to the 14 tflops number.
Anyway, with Cerny confirming devkits are going out soon and MS insiders doing the same, we will find out soon enough.
I am going with
PS5 - 14 tflops
Anaconda - 14-16 tflops.
No Lockheart.