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NHL Offseason Thread 2018 |OT| Vegas sins, lottery wins and BargainBins
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I thought Hughes was the better pick. He'd have been a tremendous partner for Weber, at the very least.
But yeah, I'd be happy with Kotka or Zadina.
If it's Tkachuk or it's a trade, well... I guess I'd tell all my friends to cancel their season tickets, but they did it already.
But yeah, I'd be happy with Kotka or Zadina.
If it's Tkachuk or it's a trade, well... I guess I'd tell all my friends to cancel their season tickets, but they did it already.
Fun fact: A Koopy Sandwich is a item from Omikron, a game made by David Cage and David..Bowie. It's one of the the worst games I've ever seen.
I was about to cancel my habs season tickets but my rep left me until after the draft and free agency. I'll check after that because right now after the chucky trade, I just dont see it.
There's a free draft guide available here from a Flyers fan who puts a lot of time into watching the draft eligible prospects.
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/147005421/
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/147005421/
I really wonder how that Hoffman deal went down, since Dorion was instructed not to talk to teams in his own division. Did Tallon put out a signal for help, and Wilson scooped it up? Or did Wilson let divisional GMs know he would work the trade as a go-between?
That looks like puck physics being programmedthe 2 devs allocated for the game of course :)
Either way Dorion must feel pretty fucking jilted right now.
7th Dman or AHL bound
easy to trade with that salary if we dont need him though
He'll be holding down the fort in the press box drinking his fancy coffee.
Merkley seems to have a lot of defensive faults, but if he's still there at 25, I think Leafs have to take him.
Damn, that's a bit of a paycut for him. But being the 4th string goalie in the organization this past season will do that to him.
I'm mostly expecting to lose him to waivers at the beginning of the year.
Who's a comparable to Merkley?
I can't recall a guy who was talked about as being a Top 3-5 pick, but sank this low because of 'intangibles'.
Apparently Wilson was calling people.
I don't know how Dorion gets over this because that trade was straight up disrespect by Wilson lol
Still don't know what Dubas is going to do with the goalie logjam. Backup goalies don't have a ton of value and there isn't a big market for them, tho if I had to guess he'll sell high-ish on McBackup for like a 4th or 5th round pick and let Sparks and Pickard fight for the backup spot in camp.
Wilson didn't disrespect Dorion. This entire notion in hockey that there are these unwritten trade/signing rules that must be adhered to is stupid.
https://canucksarmy.com/2018/06/12/canucksarmys-2018-nhl-draft-rankings-16-ryan-merkley/
https://canucksarmy.com/2018/06/12/canucksarmys-2018-nhl-draft-rankings-16-ryan-merkley/
Hmm it's harder to remember who fell due to off-ice issues but were still *that* high based solely on talent. Back in the 90's the Habs drafted Terry Ryan (Riley?) in the top 10 despite his rep as a kid with a bad attitude and he disappeared in a cloud of nothing largely because he was uncoachable but I'm not sure he slipped at all.
Very recently Ho-Sang and Daniel Sprong were both touted as top 5 talents but fell in large part due to intangibles, but it's too early to say for sure if they'll be top 6 NHLers (which is what you'd expect based on their talent levels).
Angelo Esposito maybe? He definitely fell based at least partially on his attitude but I think his career was derailed by injuries.
Oh wait, Rob Schremp is the guy I used to consider exhibit A when it came to pre-draft worries about "intangibles" actually coming true. He was definitely one of the more talented guys in his draft year but fell because of concerns about his all around game and willingness to accept coaching. And sure enough he was a part time NHLer who clashed with his coaches and got claimed off waivers a few times.
There's always a bit of translation required when you hear scouts talk about "off-ice issues", because sometimes they mean a guy is just a prick and his coach/teaammates hate him and sometimes they mean he has no discipline or can't stay out of trouble outside the rink. Then you have to wonder if it's just a partying phase that a young guy will grow out of if his coaches or agent yell at him enough or if he has a budding substance abuse problem, because there are plenty of those sad examples too.
Just checked the rankings and I didn't realize Merkley had fallen so far. Maybe he's a possibility at 25.
I dunno if having a "bad attitude" at 17 years old is really a death sentence for a players career. He's a kid with some growing up to do. He wouldn't be in a pro league for another 2 or 3 years and people change a lot from 17-19 or 20. I have a feeling whoever gives him a chance will be glad they did.
I dunno if having a "bad attitude" at 17 years old is really a death sentence for a players career. He's a kid with some growing up to do. He wouldn't be in a pro league for another 2 or 3 years and people change a lot from 17-19 or 20. I have a feeling whoever gives him a chance will be glad they did.
The one thing that helps is he's a defenseman and they are mostly put on the back burner
CanucksArmy:
He seems to be pretty divisive. A fancy stats darling, but some NHL scouts have the traditional concerns about defending while small.
The most "detailed" I have seen is that sometimes he ignores coach directions to do his own thing, he doesn't pay much attention to the defensive zone, and he can get overly emotional (mad) on the ice at times.
Apparently he's really hard on his teammates/treats them like shit, doesn't pay attention to coaching instructions (aka defense and plays) and I heard a rumor the other day that there's some kind of issue surrounding him like Hoffman, but the person who said that didn't clarify.... just said they were surprised this stuff hasn't hit the public sphere yet.
You take him and you're banking on his skill and those issues resolving in time. A lot of kids don't see or understand the stuff they're doing until they're a bit older... but then there's some that just never figure out how to fix their problems.
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That.....doesn't sound that bad? All things that will come with maturity/pro coaching?
Yeah, maybe.
Also very possible. And that uncertainty alone is more than enough to knock a guy out of the top half of the first round when you expect to get, at least, usable NHL talent.
It's just easy to forget the guys who had top 10 talent and had some issue that maybe held them back and then they end up playing for Zurich and you see them at the Spengler Cup and wonder why their name is kinda familiar.
That's what I thought, but so many scouting reports talk about how bad it is so I assume I am not reading between the lines enough to see the real issues but idk
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