"Ninja Gaiden Sigma" in the Ninja Gaiden Master Collection might be the Vita version [Update - KT states PS3 Versions at Threadmark]

[Mullet2000]

Over in the announcement thread various people have been comparing footage/screens of the collection to the PS3 version and Vita version, and the footage seems to be a match for the downgraded Vita version.

If you check out the announcement trailer:



At 0:05 - 0:07 you'll see a boss fight from Sigma 1. If you compare it to footage of the fight on PS3 and Vita, it's clearly not PS3 Assets. Look at the environmental textures especially.

See PS3 @ 42:00 from comparison:

Also as pointed out by BrunOz in the other thread, a screenshot comparison:

Just so people are aware since preorders are open at this point. Between this and the interview the other day stating that the source code for NG/NG Black/NGII is lost, I assume the same is true for the original Ninja Gaiden Sigma. But they haven't really been upfront about Sigma specifically.

 

[dallow_bg]

Vita means life.

 

[P-Bo]

This is some serious (ninja) dogshit.

 

[zoodoo]

wth??
That's shitty

So even the original sigma games are better than this collection. How do they keep downgrading these games?

 

[Deleted member 3017]

Thank god Black and vanilla NG2 are available on Xbox. This collection is an absolute joke.

 

[NuclearCake]

Thanks for the warning.

Skipping this crap then.

 

[steviestar3]

...what the fuck.

 

[zombiejames]

 

[LiK]

whoa, major downgrade

 

[Deleted member 13560]

They've done similar stuff to this in the past with some of their ports on PC. Like the STEAM version of One Piece Pirate Warrior 3 using VITA assets. So I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Kalnet]

Even in death, the vita rules over all.

 

[FormatCompatible]

What a complete disappointment this whole thing is.

 

[Ascenion]

Yeahhhh I ain't buying this

 

[BasilZero]

Something something they lost the source code like any other Japanese games

 

[BuBu Jenkins]

Sounds about right with current TN. A shame how they basically killed both Ninja Garden and the DOA series with their awful handling and half assedness

 

[Mass Effect]

yeah... I think I'll pass on this.

oh well, I still have NG2 on 360 and I can pick up NG Black too.

 

[Caz]

wth??
That's shitty

So even the original sigma games are better than this collection. How do they keep downgrading these games?

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It's Tecmo Koei.

They're one of the cheapest developers out there.

 

[Elios83]

Is it possible that's the case just for Switch since footage posted in op is from a Nintendo Direct?
Or is there evidence of this for all platforms?
In any case I doubt I'm going to buy this collection unless it's sold at a steep discount. A sequel done well might be interesting.

 

[nsilvias]

i guess ill stick to rpcs3

 

[Strike]

I'm assuming they probably went with the Vita version over the PS3 because it had trophy support. Still not much of an excuse.

 

[Raigor]

I was already disappointed when they announced the Sigma versions and now they are even putting the worse Sigma version?

No thanks Tecmo Koei.

 

[S1kkZ]

Thank god Black and vanilla NG2 are available on Xbox. This collection is an absolute joke.

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jup. both games running in 4k/60 is just the best way to play them.

 

[hey it's that dog]

Not that I disbelieve that they'd do this, but aren't those PS3 screens massive bullshots?

 

[nsilvias]

I'm assuming they probably went with the Vita version over the PS3 because it had trophy support. Still not much of an excuse.

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ps3 version got trophy support later i remember

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

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Sometimes a GIF you have seen used a million times hits just right and gets a good chuckle. This is one of those times.

This isn't the foundation you hope to build a Ninja Gaiden 4 on, that's for sure.

 

[zoodoo]

Can you image a collection of ninja gaiden games where 3 will actually be the better game? lmao

 

[FormatCompatible]

Is it possible that's the case just for Switch since footage posted in op is from a Nintendo Direct?
Or is there evidence of this for all platforms?
In any case I doubt I'm going to buy this collection unless it's sold at a steep discount. A sequel done well might be interesting.

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Those screenshots are from the announcement, they are not supposed to be specific to the Switch version

Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection announced for PS4, Xbox One, Switch, and PC

Publisher Koei Tecmo and developer Team Ninja have announced Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Switch, and PC (Steam). It will launch on June 10 worldwide.

www.gematsu.com

 

[Jakartalado]

I'm assuming they probably went with the Vita version over the PS3 because it had trophy support. Still not much of an excuse.

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I would bet on the use of the touch pad.... Vita already had touchscreen support for several shortcuts (item usage, Ninpo Abilities, auto combo support).

 

[HotHamBoy]

Is it possible that's the case just for Switch since footage posted in op is from a Nintendo Direct?
Or is there evidence of this for all platforms?
In any case I doubt I'm going to buy this collection unless it's sold at a steep discount. A sequel done well might be interesting.

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The Switch should be more than capable of handling a PS3 port

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Doesn't the Vita version have some bonus mode or something? I remember they mentioned that content being in the collection so I assumed it was always the version used here due to that

 

[Mugy]

I just can't grasp my mind around this. What the hell is this

 

[JetmanJay]

Alright! Was on the fence before, but fuck this collection then. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Kresnik]

I like Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

(On Vita)

What's even more amusing is that they appear to not be including the blood that they added back into the Vita version of NGS2+.

What a weird Frankenstein's monster of a release.

 

[fiendcode]

Team Ninja got it backwards, they should've used PS3 NG Sigma and Vita NG2 Sigma Plus.

 

[tim1138]

Yeah this is going to be a hard pass. I'll stick with Black and NG2 via BC on Xbox.

 

[Mullet2000]

Doesn't the Vita version have some bonus mode or something? I remember they mentioned that content being in the collection so I assumed it was always the version used here due to that

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It does. But they've worded as "we brought over the Vita content" not "this release is a port of the Vita version".

 

[Noisepurge]

Not that I disbelieve that they'd do this, but aren't those PS3 screens massive bullshots?

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yeah those can hardly be said to be screenshots when they are probably cutscenes with a pc emulator. However the main point is to look at Ryu´s character model, he is more detailed in the PS3 version.

 

[BassForever]

If we buy the source code explanation, maybe the vita versions are the source code they still have lying around was the easiest to scale for all platforms the collection is releasing on. Still disappointing that they aren't going all out for this remaster collection, this should have been the definitive release of the games.

 

[smocaine]

Emulation to the rescue. This package is too little, too late. Not going to bother picking it up anymore.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

It does. But they've worded as "we brought over the Vita content" not "this release is a port of the Vita version".

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I guess I just have lower expectations for KT published stuff when it comes to ports then lol

Lots of bizarre choices by them that never really make sense

 

[AuthenticM]

man, this collection is a joke.

 

[hey it's that dog]

yeah those can hardly be said to be screenshots when they are probably cutscenes with a pc emulator. However the main point is to look at Ryu´s character model, he is more detailed in the PS3 version.

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Yeah, I don't dispute that the assets seem to be different. This is a major disappointment if true.

 

[J75]

Disappointing. I'll still get it though. Need my Ninja Gaiden fix on PC.

 

[srtrestre]

Thank god Black and vanilla NG2 are available on Xbox. This collection is an absolute joke.

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lol seriously. Miiiiiiiight get it eventually on a steep enough discount. Maybe

 

[Micro]

That might mean it has the Hero Mode then? Casuals like me could do with that, but I definitely shouldn't be the target audience here lol

 

[Psamtik]

Thank god Black and vanilla NG2 are available on Xbox. This collection is an absolute joke.

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Absolutely. There should be a way for people to get that experience on the platform of their choice, but at least the original versions are preserved through BC.

 

[SmokedSalmon]

It's weird. I wonder if the assets were lost here too. Still getting it though.

is Sigma 2 the ps3 version? It looks similar but I don't know for sure.

 

[benzy]

Even Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox One X emu looks better with higher res textures for environments and characters. Ryu's arm even has more poly's than the vita remaster.

 

[Dany]

They're up-ressing a handheld version of the game instead of the ps3 version……but how?? Why bother

 

[super moustique]

wth??
That's shitty

So even the original sigma games are better than this collection. How do they keep downgrading these games?

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This thread is about the first Sigma. Not sure if they used the vita release for Sigma 2 as well.