I agree with this, yeah.
Now the question is, do we reset the numbers? And if we do, does that mean I can be OP again?
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Now the question is, do we reset the numbers? And if we do, does that mean I can be OP again?
Okay let's play a game :)
Reorder the following six announcements in the six coming weeks (week 21-26):
- Pikmin 3 DX
- Super Mario 3D World DX
- Pokémon DLC
- Smash DLC
- Super Mario All Stars
- Paper Mario #2 trailer
Reorder the following six announcements in the six coming weeks (week 21-26):
- Pikmin 3 DX
- Super Mario 3D World DX
- Pokémon DLC
- Smash DLC
- Super Mario All Stars
- Paper Mario #2 trailer
W21: Super Mario 3D World DX + Super Mario All Stars
W22: nothing
W23: Pokémon DLC
W24: Smash DLC + Paper Mario #2 Trailer
W25: Pikmin 3 DX
W26: nothing
W22: nothing
W23: Pokémon DLC
W24: Smash DLC + Paper Mario #2 Trailer
W25: Pikmin 3 DX
W26: nothing
I think the first party thread is meant to be more serious and focused on internal structure, like position listings and studio reorganizations. It's lean by design.
but you're right in that we could really just shut these down and head to the hangouts tbh
The first one said that there would not be a Direct until very late summer at the earliest, i.e. September. I'm not sure how exactly this is any different, both of these reports suggest they scrapped any plans for a June direct.
It'shappening.jpg?
Don´t you think that it may be some work in coordinate different reveals from third parties, prepare and edit trailers, put the video together, prepare screenshots, press notes, etc.? All for the same day. This work might not be worth it in the end when they can announce the games separetely, and have even a bigger impact benefiting that title in particular.
Of course theres a part of personal bet in here. I keep my bet, of course.
"General Nintendo Twitter Announcements Guesstimation: Place Your Bets Edition"
Yes, it's a lot of work. But the results speak for themselves. Twitter drops are only good in specific circumstances, but Directs are far better for bigger or new announcements. I still don't buy your theory that Directs are a thing of the past.
mature cinematic visceral 3rd person action adventure reboot of startropics, of course
Directs still let smaller titles get exposure. Nintendo isn't going to get 4 million YouTube views by shadowdropping a trailer for Snipperclips 2.
Anyone at Nintendo acknowledging StarTropics is worthy of an "it's happening" imo.
Of course they speak, look at the number of views of the Paper Mario trailer lmao
W21: Pikmin 3 Deluxe
W22: Nothing
W23: Smash DLC
W24: "Good year to be a plumber" (RIP E3) (All-Stars/SM3DW/PMTOK#2)
W25: Nothing
W26: Pokemon DLC
Yes, but there isn't much reason for this to be the norm. Like imagine how much of an even bigger impact this would have if it was part of a Direct?
I honestly and sincerely doubt it would have a bigger impact if appeared in a Direct.
How much bigger do you think it would've been? I'm honestly curious, because so far the metrics for this are much bigger than I would've ever expected.
In fact a Direct may have had bigger announcements overshadowing PMTOK.
The point is, a Direct is way easier to coordinate multiple announcements and news in one presentation. It requires more work, but its a better format in the long run.
The plot twist is that Jeff's source is a third party company that wasn't invited to the Direct to begin with
"Hey Nintendo. How's it going? Excited about that Direct. Got some great ports we want to show off"
"Uhhhh...how did you get this number? It turns out we are not having a Direct this summer.....sorry"
"Oh. That's a shame. Must be because of that COVID"
"Yes....COVID. That's it. Hard to get things done you know. Reggie is unfortunately sick"
"I thought Reggie left a year ago"
"I mean Reggie from accounting. Yes, he's sick. From COVID. That's why there's no Direct"
"Dang. Well next time. At least I got something to show off with Sony"
"Hey my man Sony. Excited about that PS5 presentation in June."
"How did you get this number?"
"Hey Nintendo. How's it going? Excited about that Direct. Got some great ports we want to show off"
"Uhhhh...how did you get this number? It turns out we are not having a Direct this summer.....sorry"
"Oh. That's a shame. Must be because of that COVID"
"Yes....COVID. That's it. Hard to get things done you know. Reggie is unfortunately sick"
"I thought Reggie left a year ago"
"I mean Reggie from accounting. Yes, he's sick. From COVID. That's why there's no Direct"
"Dang. Well next time. At least I got something to show off with Sony"
"Hey my man Sony. Excited about that PS5 presentation in June."
"How did you get this number?"
"Doesn't matter how I got it, I have some games I wanna show off!"
"Sorry! We're already packed full. Filled to the brim."
Dude look, I am a Nintendo fan like you and I love their games so I tell you this honestly as a piece of advice: don´t hold on too much on Directs. So take it or leave it. Things are continuously changing.
Of course, I am not going to deny that appearing in a Nintendo video is an amazing chance for exposure for indie titles. My point of view is regarding general Directs.
There's just not a good reason for Nintendo to abandon traditional Directs permanently when they still do insanely well.
If you can obtain the same or better results with way less effort, do you adopt the new method or do you keep doing things the old way to please fans?
I'm sorry, this is nonsense. So long as Nintendo pursues third party games and has the desire to give them a platform, there will always be Directs. There is only a delay in Directs now due to the current situation. They don't just give Nintendo a venue to promote their own games (as we can see, the Twitter reveal of Paper Mario has done really well and yet I also think this is situational), but they give third parties a chance to shine under the Nintendo umbrella.
100% possible there's another one this year.
...that is really weird.
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But there's not much evidence outside of Paper Mario to suggest that Twitter is the way forward. Plus, this is Nintendo, so I think they would prefer to continue having Directs if they could rather than fixing something that wasn't broken to begin with.
Yeah, very true. Medium sized announcements like PMTOK night actually be better outside of Directs in terms of generating hype, but it's the smaller games especially from Indies and the smaller third parties that really benefit hugely from Directs.
Ring Fit Adventure is another example. It is not a matter of changing for the worse, it is a matter of optimising.
No directs are being planned at all for now. That's Bout it
That was a special case. It was announced separately because Nintendo wasn't sure how gamers would react to it.
Yeah the direct format is much better overall because of the insane amount of hype they get that leads to exposure of third party titles and smaller titles that would otherwise not get noticed. The bigger titles serve as a main course to the appetizers they show at those directs. It's a very successful format.
I kinda feel like the Nintendo first party thread is redundant. Although that thread is focused on the first party software. This is really a general Nintendo discussion, talking about hardware, their history, their development partners, and third party titles as well as first party software.
I'm not too confident we'll be seeing all of this in the next 6 weeks, but if I had to take a stab at arranging the order of these announcements, this would be my exact list too.
It'll depend on release timing. Smash DLC and Pokemon Expansion Pack 1 are the next expected releases, if nothing has impacted their June window.
Yeah, I was curious if Smash or Pokemon had been affected. I guess time will tell. Even if they're still on track for releases in June, does that necessarily mean they have to be shown first? Couldn't the Arms character just be revealed and shadowdropped? Same with Poke DLC?
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