I don't know, I'd rather be penniless than dead.I wonder if a global depression worse than the 1920s could put far more people in a worse spot than this virus could
I don't know, I'd rather be penniless than dead.I wonder if a global depression worse than the 1920s could put far more people in a worse spot than this virus could
We've got a six pack of some nice IPAs, a 6 pack of Hard Seltzer, and a bottle of Bulleit. For if things take a turn for the worse lol.
I live here and yeah things are looking incredibly dire.Florida is UNIQUELY vulnerable, I suspect. That demographic isn't going to respond well, and if it's combined with a devil-may-care attitude, it's going to turn into an Elderly Plague for the state.
This is the situation inside one of Italy's hospitals, not a single coronavirus patient has recovered.
This is insane.
People are going to freak out when they can't get alcohol in the coming weeks. It's going to be bad for lots of people as I know several alcoholics in their 30s who are going to go through withdrawals
The fact that you seem to consider this to be "stocking up" makes me feel like such an alcoholic.
This is the situation inside one of Italy's hospitals, not a single coronavirus patient has recovered.
This is insane.
Nah if I was stocking up I woulda got a few cases and a bunch of bottles. Trying to keep a low supply to avoid temptation and keep my immune system in top shape. I'd love to drink 15 beers a day rn tbhThe fact that you seem to consider this to be "stocking up" makes me feel like such an alcoholic.
lol same. I have cases of beer and several big jugs of spirits. lolThe fact that you seem to consider this to be "stocking up" makes me feel like such an alcoholic.
Exactly. The economy is less important than people's lives being affected by the virus.
White claw hard seltzer is my new jam. I tried the Budweiser ones but didn't like them.We've got a six pack of some nice IPAs, a 6 pack of Hard Seltzer, and a bottle of Bulleit. For if things take a turn for the worse lol.
I don't even know how to reply to this. So, I guess some good will come from Covid-19?
This is the situation inside one of Italy's hospitals, not a single coronavirus patient has recovered.
This is insane.
I'm no lawyer, but that sounds dubiousMy job (home care for individuals with intellectual disabilities) said if anyone in the homes we work at catches it, then us workers in that house at the time would be stuck there. For 14 days.
Can they legally do that? In Alabama if that helps. I live alone in an apartment, I'd much rather be stuck there than in a home with 3 individuals/3 staff for two weeks. There won't be enough food or anything.
I gotta do what I gotta do, but I just wonder if they can do that.
I would absolutely consider selling weed if laid off. People are gonna want it more than ever to make the time go by.Our weed dispensaries are crazier than normal. If they shut those down people will go back to local dealers.
I actually homebrew beer. If they shut down alcohol sales I bet a lot of neighbors will be a lot friendlier to me.
I thought I read that the age demographics are similar to Italy there? Is that true?
My job (home care for individuals with intellectual disabilities) said if anyone in the homes we work at catches it, then us workers in that house at the time would be stuck there. For 14 days.
Can they legally do that? In Alabama if that helps. I live alone in an apartment, I'd much rather be stuck there than in a home with 3 individuals/3 staff for two weeks. There won't be enough food or anything.
I gotta do what I gotta do, but I just wonder if they can do that.
Exactly. The economy is less important than people's lives being affected by the virus.
It's not just about the case fatality rate, but you can get mild symptoms and still have long-term lung damage. The entire process of being in an ICU bed itself is far scarier and more painful than economic impact.
Florida has always been something of a retirement destination for Americans.I thought I read that the age demographics are similar to Italy there? Is that true?
You've got this backward. If you tell people to go outside infrequently and get some fresh air people will savor it and follow the advice. If you tell them to stay inside for days and days on end some will rebel and engage in risky behavior out of desperation and create a bigger problem than if you had just let them go out in the first place. Keeping morale high is an essential part of getting voluntary self-enforcement of quarantine procedures. More people will get sick, whether it's through the virus or some other issue, if they do not take care of themselves, and infrequent outdoor exercise is one of the lowest risk options available.It would certainly improve morale, but this can also backfire. If you let people walk about every now and then, people will want more and more until they're crowding together outside again.
While I can appreciate the financial concern for local businesses this is a sacrifice that needs to happen to contain the spread in WA state (and obviously the other states enacting similar bans). You can be sure plenty more obstinate business owners will be ignoring the order tomorrow when the 14 day closure period starts. I hope Inslee enacts steep fines for those not complying. Not sure what else he can do to prevent this from happening short of arrests but not sure if that's within his abilities as governor.
Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined. In addition, even if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days, with the refinement of estimates of likely ICU demand due to COVID-19 based on experience in Italy and the UK (previous planning estimates assumed half the demand now estimated) and with the NHS providing increasing certainty around the limits of hospital surge capacity.
We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time. The social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound. Many countries have adopted such measures already, but even those countries at an earlier stage of their epidemic (such as the UK) will need to do so imminently.
Our analysis informs the evaluation of both the nature of the measures required to suppress COVID- 19 and the likely duration that these measures will need to be in place. Results in this paper have informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks. However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.
Yeah it's insane.I've said the same thing in the SF thread, but this is going to happen because the government (city/state/ESPECIALLY FEDERAL) is keeping people in the dark about what's going to happen to their finances. These lockdowns are necessary, sure, but not providing info on what support will be given to people with rent (pausing evictions does nothing), mortgages, car payments, student loans, credit debt, etc WILL make people be noncompliant. Threatening punishment will just lead to unrest.
This is getting scarier by the day. I'm worried about all the people losing their jobs, stores closing, and the long lines at grocery stores. People are going to get desperate.
2 more dead in nyc. I think the death toll is now at 9.
Bright side is that i think the government as a whole is now realizing how serious this is. Better late than ever i guess.
my direct boss has been in panic mode for about 2 weeks. We have been in clean everything for at least a week.I work in a retail store, and one of our employees called out today and said she was being tested.
Now I understand that you don't want the store to panic but management has been given orders to not tell any hourly employees to prevent panic.
This employee practices the worst possible human hygiene. It's a bit worrisome.
Times like this are where you really lose working in retail.
Was only a matter of time before seeing this sort of response to the 14 day closure of businesses sans grocery stores and takeout+delivery:
While I can appreciate the financial concern for local businesses this is a sacrifice that needs to happen to contain the spread in WA state (and obviously the other states enacting similar bans). You can be sure plenty more obstinate business owners will be ignoring the order tomorrow when the 14 day closure period starts. I hope Inslee enacts steep fines for those not complying. Not sure what else he can do to prevent this from happening short of arrests but not sure if that's within his abilities as governor.
That's really unfortunate. Try to escalate it as much as you can. Maybe even inquire from your work.My AirBNB host doesn't want to refund me for the month I just paid. My job site shut down, they're sending me on two planes to different airports to get back to Los Angeles of all places, I live with my 79 year old grandma who I can't go back to, so I'll be sleeping out of my car, and my host refuses to pay me back for an entire month that I will not be using.
I'm so pissed right now. I finally felt settled into a good place in life starting with this job. And this shit happens. I was supposed to be here for 5 months, I wasn't expecting to walk into work and be put on a plane 24 hours later. Or I would've never paid.
I just need to vent. Sorry.
Martial law needs to be in effect. Arrest and detain all who don't follow
My AirBNB host doesn't want to refund me for the month I just paid. My job site shut down, they're sending me on two planes to different airports to get back to Los Angeles of all places, I live with my 79 year old grandma who I can't go back to, so I'll be sleeping out of my car, and my host refuses to pay me back for an entire month that I will not be using.
I'm so pissed right now. I finally felt settled into a good place in life starting with this job. And this shit happens. I was supposed to be here for 5 months, I wasn't expecting to walk into work and be put on a plane 24 hours later. Or I would've never paid.
I just need to vent. Sorry.