I've got mixed feelings about your exemples. They change too much about the overall look of the game. It's like a wholly different artistic direction.
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NVIDIA RTX 20 Series Reviews
- Thread starter Mecha Meister
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I've got mixed feelings about your exemples. They change too much about the overall look of the game. It's like a wholly different artistic direction.
New Nvidia Driver releasing on the 20th will improve performance in multiple games as well as add requested community features... Hmm. Wonder what those could be?
Cool. They've been pretty quiet lately so I'm hoping for a really good driver release. I wonder if this will be the Borderlands 3 driver or if another one will come just a couple of weeks later.
Only if you are okay with 30 fps. My 2080 Ti can barely do Metro 1440p, 60 fps, maxed out.
Dont think we'll see much more GI yet since it probably requires relighting the scenes, and that's a lot of work
Oh wow. This looks so much better. Dying Light is a game that I've had in my cart multiple times but never checked out. This might push me over the edge to get it.
Thanks, from what I gather 2070 is not good enough to play at 1440p and 60fps with RTX on. Will the 2080 (no Ti version) suffice?
I am beginning to think that investing in the current gent RTX card is a waste of time and money. Perhaps, it will be best to wait a year or two for next gen RTX cards?!?
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Thank you both.
Hopefully. The first gen RTX cards seem like a proof of concept, but the overall performance hit seems counterintuitive to what enthusiasts get into PC gaming for, IE high frame rates and graphics settings. I plan to jump on the 2180ti 3080ti whatever the next gen 80ti is and would really like to use the RTX features, but not if I can't get a decent frame rate out of 1440p.
Huge difference. I love it. Seems much more natural, but at what cost will it come. I hope it is better optimized/less demanding than RTX in Metro Exodus
This is exactly what I am getting from the current gen RTX cards. You either go 2080TI (which are expensive as f*ck) or go bust, meaning that the lower models even the 2080 are not sufficient for 1440p at 60fps with RTX on.
So... I've got a question concerning the 2080 Ti and Cyberpunk 2077. Maybe it's a dumb question. What I want is to play Cyberpunk 2077 at 4K with all effects and sliders at Ultra AND with every ray tracing/RTX eye candy at full too.
If I'm aiming for 30 fps, will a GTX 2080 Ti do the trick (in combination with a i7 6700K @ 4.0 ghz and 16 GB RAM)?
Or does one even need a stronger card to pull this off...
If I'm aiming for 30 fps, will a GTX 2080 Ti do the trick (in combination with a i7 6700K @ 4.0 ghz and 16 GB RAM)?
Or does one even need a stronger card to pull this off...
Nobody knows. The original gameplay demo from last year was run on a 1080ti @ 4k 30fps.
Damn, a lot of games I'm interested in getting RTX support, too bad most of them are probably going to be hard for me to run at even 1080/60 on my 2070. I'm planning on splurging for a 3080 when it comes out if financially possible, but most of these games will be old news by then. I'll probably skip more solo focused games like Watch Dogs and Dying light until then.
Dying Light 2 looks like the best of the bunch from those announcements, the GI and shadows together make an absolutely stunning difference.
Regarding the new requested feature my guess is nearest neighbor upscaling for people who want pixel-perfect 720p -> 1440p or 1080p -> 4k.
Regarding the new requested feature my guess is nearest neighbor upscaling for people who want pixel-perfect 720p -> 1440p or 1080p -> 4k.
Depends on what's "good". It'll hold 30 fps in this mode with RT in most titles. Is this good or not?
Yep, Im going 2080Super so Im basically ignoring RTX for now, seems like it wont run at 1440p and a decent framerate on really anything except a 2080ti. So this will be a next gen feature for me. I like 144hz and 1440p far too much. I will even turn down settings to maintain it. It means that much to me.
having now seen all the new RTX media, im really not a fan of the reflections. most of the time its just way overdone and looks worse than without it. developers are turning the floor into mirrors. when its done right its a cool bit of refinement, but doesnt really change the overall look of the game, and therefor not worth such a huge performance hit to me. shadows look good but again, its more of a refinement thing and not worth the performance hit. GI is the only one i can absolutely get behind as it actually transforms the game. too bad only metro and dying light 2 are using it
Yeah probably in some of the upcoming games. But I don't really want to. Stubborn like that. RTX isn't important enough to me to want to sacrifice my resolution for it. Maybe some texture quality... but not resolution.
I'm ignorant on the nitty gritty of PC tech so forgive my ignorance, but is the goal of RTX cards to eventually replace GTX cards? Is the goal for eventually every game to feature Raytracing?
doubt every game will use raytracing. but at some point, all the big budget games will. so I guess RTX will eventually replace GTX, but there still might be GTX cards for the low end/lower cost options
Yes that is the goal. Real time ray tracing has been a target for years. These are the early days. Will get an even bigger push with the next gen consoles having ray tracing in one fashion or another.
It certainly doesn't "look worse than without it", cut it out already.
Have you seen a wet and/or polished floor?
Key point here is that RT is the only way it can be "done right". There are transparency reflections is Control and Legion and reflective transparent curved surfaces in Legion at least. These are basically impossible to do right without RT.
How exactly do you know what performance hit will these games have from RT reflections?
Proper contact shadows and small detail shadowing on in-game characters are not "a refinement thing" unless you're saying that the presence of such shadows is "a refinement" of their absence.
How do you know what performance hit will these shadows have in titles shipping next year?
Control is using RT for AO and GI. Also both path traced games (Q2RTX and Minecraft) are obviously using RT for GI.
The only thing which is too bad here is your tiring constant downplaying of something which nobody is even forcing you to use let alone buy.
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Unfortunately I did not build a PC to play games at 30fps :) and I do not want to spend a fortune on a 2080ti. I've been holding on BF V for a while now and want to enjoy the pretty, pretty, shiny, shiny! :)
Guess I will stick to my trusty 1060 :D and wait for either a huge price drop on the 2080ti (come on AMD, put some pressure on Nvidia) or wait for next gen RTX cards.
The 2080 Ti die is MASSIVE so I wouldn't expect any huge price drop, even in the face of competition.
Perhaps some sale or promotion. In my country the price has already been decreased with around $150 USD for the Auros Gigabyte 2080ti and hopefully with a sale or a promo (with the holidays in December) it will come down more. This or I wait for next gen RTX cards.
I guess it comes down to the definition of "huge". You're using a 1060 and looking for a HUGE price drop. Just saying the card won't be dropping any any amount I'd consider to be huge.
ive seen lots of polished floors, ive never seen polished asphalt
its a refinement to the net visual sum of the image. and its pretty safe to assume the performance hit will be steep, as it is in the other titles with shadows/reflections. its not like ubisofts inhouse studios have a history of highly optimized pc games. if its done by ubi kiev like most of them, it will be likely be yet another shitshow
control is using RT to fix some corner cases where their GI solution isnt precise enough to cover some accuracy issues, and even at 1080p they havent been able to produce a smooth running video yet.
its cool that minecraft and quake 2 have path tracing. im referring to modern games
Man they really trashed up Camden Market. All the vegan foot stands are gone. But Cyberdog remains.
Your polished concrete is an issue with the game's materials system, not ray tracing. Ray tracing doesn't impact _how_ reflective a surface is, it impacts _what_ it reflects. That game's RTX on side looks terrible but it's also some game I'd never heard of from Tencent so I'm not really the target market anyway.
I never said ray tracing was a problem, just that a lot of these reflections look worse with RTX enabled because they are overdone
Gamersyde watch dogs RTX footage
reflections look good but the rest of the game is meh. the fact that the resolution is so low and the fps is 30 doesnt bode well for performance. IQ is awful all around
reflections look good but the rest of the game is meh. the fact that the resolution is so low and the fps is 30 doesnt bode well for performance. IQ is awful all around
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Wow makes a big difference in this scene. Is this indicative of the whole game?I think this belongs here.
Control, max settings, RT vs no RT.
Generally speaking yeah I'd say so. Some places less so than others, but in many places it's in a major way.
I'd say the biggest way it's noticeable is that things just sit in the scene much better. It really negates a lot of the "objects floating in nowhere" phenomena.
It's amazing to me that you continue to troll the thread. You clearly don't like the cards or Nvidia but you post in the thread like it's a mission.
Oh wow, didn't catch that when I skimmed the article! Very impressive stuff!
Yes. I played the game for an hour without RT and concluded I would never again do so. The game just looks so much better with RT on. You forget how "gamey" a game can look without RT. Then you turn it on and it's like, "woah." Or you play with it on for awhile, then turn it off and it's like, "hmmm...this doens't feel right."
Wait, was he serious? He literally linked the article using false words and content, he can't be serious.
I had to give up RT for stability ;_;
Could rock a solid 30fps if it wasn't for DX12's stuttering
Now I'm on DX11 and running at 60+fps and enjoying the game while not trying to think about RT :p
Could rock a solid 30fps if it wasn't for DX12's stuttering
Now I'm on DX11 and running at 60+fps and enjoying the game while not trying to think about RT :p
My budget is about to loosen up, so- GeForce 2080 Super late September/early October, or wait and see? I'm under the impression the next round is 2020 but no word on when that will be, and the trick with PC upgrades is that there's always something new on the horizon so you can either wait forever and never upgrade at all unless you want to feel the horrible pain of regret, or just get it done.
You should check Digital Foundry coverage of the scenes options, they explain in stepped details the difference between them