Even if some old Pokemon have some new animations not all of them need them.
Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles
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As a proud fan of Jynx, I have to say "the connection" you talk about might be missing from Jynx, but that's not the point.
She was still included in the Kalos Pokédex, just like Mr. Mime, so both of them have the same chances (of getting cut). Or being in, since there aren't many Ice or Fairy Types. Jynx was even featured in a Pokémon Go event not too long ago, so it's not like they're trying to ignore her.
The other Pokémon I've seen mentioned is Porygon, but it even appears as a Pokédex in the Pokémon Masters artwork.
The thing is for more that I think about it, no reason is strong enough for me to say, this or that Pokémon would be ok if they're cut, or would actually make sense that they're cut. I could probably think of Pansage, Pansear and Panpour, and that's it lol but I really don't know how they think.
Most of the Pokémon had been some sort of featured here and there in recent years, whether is the anime, spin off's, TCG, and all of that must be taken into consideration, because with these new games, there's all the merchandise and the anime that come along with it.
It does, but if their tooling already broke that's actually really impressive.
The only thing I can think of that even sort of resembles a justification for this is if they substantially expanded the amie/refresh replacement to the point where they couldn't just reuse most of the existing animations. Everything else looks like the 3DS stuff with some minor touch-ups, but that seems like it might have some new camp element.
That would still be a terrible trade-off and blatant overcommitting their resources but at least it's an explanation. They also still probably would have been better off just limiting the Pokémon you could use with that instead of just cutting them completely, though.
That would still be a terrible trade-off and blatant overcommitting their resources but at least it's an explanation. They also still probably would have been better off just limiting the Pokémon you could use with that instead of just cutting them completely, though.
It was only a matter of time. There are too many Poke'mon. They "future-proofed" the models a while back (so I'm not totally clear why they're not present here). But they're not future-proofed forever. Some day they'll have to make new ones. That's just going to get harder and harder as time goes on.
What a mess. I'm going back to replaying Crystal and Emerald. Someone wake me up when GF gets its head out of its ass.
Considering they made them to be future proof if they already fucked up then we are right back to Game Freak being incompetent.
There's no reason the models wouldn't be compatible, at worst they would need to rework the shaders on the models. If animations are incompatible then I don't know what happened since there doesn't seem to be any changes to the way the game handles animations, it's just as limited as it was on 3DS and Pokemon are still using old animations.
No case, I'm trying to explain why you are wrong. If you don't want to see that I can't help you.
But by all means, keep up with your delusions.
Nintendo needs to take the helm. This shit is a mess, quality and content has taken a huge hit since the 3ds games.
Yes, you are totally explaining, it's not like I've done plenty of explaining and all you done is insult me.
Uh huh.
And they wont ever do that (thankfully) because its already slow enough without that. Its literally 7+ seconds for a single hit.
You've explained literally nothing. All you've done is belittle other members without offering anything substantive in response to their concerns about this game.
Would you guys be ok with gamefreak only allowing the final stage evo of each cut pokemon to return in sword and shield?
This should have been exactly the game the models were future-proofed for, though. Those things certainly weren't optimized for 3DS.
id rather not have to disable animations entirely just because they're that sluggish.
Oh you didn't annoy me at all. Sorry if I was a bit brief with my answer; I'm just really busy with E3 stuff, that's all.
Didn't BOTW or Xenoblade 2 got some help from other studios? I wish Nintendo would get involved just like Iwata did with Black/White 2, someone to say 'hey, this is terrible, why you're doing that?'
C'mon, this is not a small franchise, Gamefreak like to present itself like, this 'small indie studio' but they don't need to and it's starting to reflect on their work.
It's frustrating.
C'mon, this is not a small franchise, Gamefreak like to present itself like, this 'small indie studio' but they don't need to and it's starting to reflect on their work.
It's frustrating.
Ignoring the complications of achieving that, it would be better but still shit as some people like non-final stage mons.
Well, it's not like Game Freak can't just speed them up too. Pokémon is the only AAA JRPG with this kind of disjointed animation, right? Just make them jump up to their opponent's face or something.
Anything that's not just moving the 'mon on the Y axis while some particles play over the opponent.
That would ruin breeding though. I'd rather they just bite the bullet and start patching their games like every other developer.
The main issue I see is giving GF more animation work when they seemingly can't handle their current load.
It's better than anything, but wouldn't be ok by no means. Missing Pokémon, even if it's just one species, is just unforgivable. I would've understood Mega Evolutions getting axed, that sucks too, design wise, but they were just forms tied to a specific item and mechanic. But an entire species being absent from a main game, is just sickening.
Oh, for sure. I wouldn't want Game Freak doing that. The game would only contain the Charizard line and Mewtwo in a cave at that point.
again I think they will end up patching some back in later, my feeling, or atleast hope, is when lets go 2 comes out s/sh gets a dlc expack.
They should. I think the current models and animation kind of suck anyways. But again, you can only throw money at people for so long. It just doesn't scale if we are talking about 1000s of unique Poke'mon some day. People always flip out when I bring it up. But I don't know the solution other than to start retiring Poke'mon. Or I guess do what they're doing here, and limiting the amount of Poke'mon in each game. They've boxed themselves into a corner.
People always praise quality over quantity, but I'm guessing that's not true for a lot of us. People just just want that sweet quantity. It's becoming a drug. Always want more. Need that latest hit.
When I first saw this news I thought it meant it'd be a gen 3 situation where you'd just have to wait for later gen 8 games to fill out the national dex, which kinda sucked cuz rip 5 gens of forward compatibility, but wouldn't be too big a deal.
This? This is really bad.
LOL, I'm going to steal from twitter and see your cave raise you a white void!
More unique animations for physical moves would be good, sure. But jumping up to their face went out the window with small vs giant.
Raid battles already looked like a lot of waiting and imagining that with Battle Revolution animations is not a good feel.
I mean they're coming up on number 1,000 and with the games requiring more complex models and animations this probably shouldn't be a surprise. Maybe more of them in Ultra SwSh and all of them by gen 9. I'd expect the same out of the first major entry in any new console generation from now on.
They can farm animation work pretty easily. China is a popular destination for this kind of thing.
It's clear that they can't handle 900+ Pokemon in-house anymore. They need to hire contractors. And they need to work on a future proof framework for existing Pokemon that is actually future proof this time.
They're using the same models they used since XY on the 3DS.
How cute to think Breeding is coming back.
Until confirmed, assume nothing at the moment.
I don't know if you are new to the franchise or not, sorry if not, but it's like, they actively go out of their way to keep everything under budget, you know?
I never saw a Pokémon mainline game who made me think 'oooh, they really throwed money on this', it feels like they never do.
But we're getting closer to 1000 Pokémon and I don't see an easy way out, outside a reboot. But that will be the day I will be done with the franchise.
According to the leak they are going back to adding legit evolutions to old monsters. That was my favorite way of doing it, I hated mega evolutions because they were not balanced or even complete designed based on balance. Some were done based on popularity, some because they needed legitimate evolutions.
There is no discernible increase in quality though. I think the fanbase would be a lot more forgiving of this if Game Freak was really taking the time to overhaul the animations.
the problem here is that Game Freak DOES have all the hi-res models and animations for the pokemons from Bulbasaur to Marshadow already done (the ones you see on 3ds are severely downscaled versions) exactly to avoid situations like these
ooohh like this approach far better
megas were getting out of control but please just rename mega Lopunny and make it a legit design.
Fighting Rabbit was sick
Mega Altaria too
They're still using the same animations and sound effects too. They future proofed the entire roster for this to never happen. They probably just want to sell us the remaining roster on other games.
Been with it since Day 1! I agree with your sentiment. I don't think I've been truly impressed by a Poke'mon game since Gold/Silver. But I always hope they'll surprise me some day.
That's amazing to hear. I thought Megas and Z-Moves were useless fluff.
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