I mean yes the sequels are not great but you could literally say the same thing for a lot characters. Like Anakin is the chosen one so he has powers but why him and not someone else?
She said the prequels sucked lol. That answers that.
I mean yes the sequels are not great but you could literally say the same thing for a lot characters. Like Anakin is the chosen one so he has powers but why him and not someone else?
People really underestimate how important editing is.
Is her critcism "she's a female" or is her criticism that Disney went "she's a female" and didn't bother to dive deeper? Because part of her quote is "we don't know who she is"
Rey, Kylo Ren, Finn and Poe were charismatic leads that you could easily emotionally invest in and had fun interactions with each other. Rey X Kylo, Finn X Poe, Finn X Rey all had great chemistry and future movies could built upon that. That ain't easy to pull off (judging by all the failed revivals) and why I think TFA was solid beginning chapter.I can see the mentality behind what they did with TFA, but I sincerely believe that if movie 1 of the ST actually had strong, confident ideas behind it, the whole trilogy would've flowed way better. Because right now we have a movie with no ideas, followed by a movie with too many ideas, followed by a movie with no ideas that actively goes out of its way to negate the previous movie's ideas.
Rey, Kylo Ren, Finn and Poe were charismatic leads that you could easily emotionally invest in and had fun interactions with each other. Rey X Kylo, Finn X Poe, Finn X Rey all had great chemistry and future movies could built upon that. That ain't easy to pull off (judging by all the failed revivals) and why I think TFA was solid beginning chapter.
It's so transparent, too.People in the SW fandom pitting people involved with the franchise against one another to support their personal opinions about this or that set of SW films will forever be the most pitiful part of the fandom. It's absolutely pathetic.
Is her critcism "she's a female" or is her criticism that Disney went "she's a female" and didn't bother to dive deeper? Because part of her quote is "we don't know who she is"
That still doesn't make any sense.That's my read, she's saying they just said "Female lead" and stopped thinking right there.
That still doesn't make any sense.
Why does being a female character require some special protocol to justify being female?
Because one is criticizing that a female character exists at all... and the other one is criticizing Disney for not putting the work in and creating a well thought out female lead.
What is a "well thought out female lead"?Because one is criticizing that a female character exists at all... and the other one is criticizing Disney for not putting the work in and creating a well thought out female lead.
That's a really dumb compliant considering the only thing we know why Luke has powers is because he's a Akanakins sonI mean yes the sequels are not great but you could literally say the same thing for a lot characters. Like Anakin is the chosen one so he has powers but why him and not someone else?
That's a really dumb compliant considering the only thing we know why Luke has powers is because he's a Akanakins son
Marcia's contributions to OG cannot be understated but I also take issue that the movie was saved in the edit. There's a YouTube video floating around positing this but it ignores that George himself went uncredited as one of the editors.
That still doesn't make any sense.
Why do female characters require some special protocol to justify being female?
I think we can be charitable and assume that Marcia Lucas isn't an alt-right youtuber that doesn't like women.
Even putting that part aside the "We don't know how she got her powers" thing is still there and is still an idiotic complaint and it's a complaint you only ever see with Rey even though the same damn thing also applies to literally every Jedi in the franchise.Because and this is just what I think she means, she's not criticizing her for being female, her criticism is that that's the only thought that went towards her.
You can easily say the same for characters that are just a collection of suit buzzwords like "perky" and "wide-eyed" and nothing more goes into their characters than that.
SNOKE TLJ said:Snoke : [Rey's restrains are undone] Come closer, child. So much strength. Darkness rises and light to meet it. I warned my young apprentice that as he grew stronger, his equal in the light would rise.
I mean the Sequel Trilogy does suck, but like...who is this and why is her opinion that important?
The quotes show off her lack of knowledge more than any legit criticism.
She sounds like those boomers whose only exposure to the franchise was watching them 40 years ago.
Luke obviously gets them from his father, and that's communicated as such by Obi Wan to the audience in the first movie. We just didn't know Anakin was still alive."We don't know how she got Jedi powers" is very weird because....we do know? Like, it just happens? Same with Luke?
I also don't know how Obi Wan got Jedi powers and please never explain it to me because it doesn't matter at all
She edited the original trilogy.
She probably knows more about Star Wars than anyone on this forum.
There is also a bunch of people who like the original trilogy which is also bad. So why should the prequels and sequels be held to a different standard? lolI agree with her. All 6 of those movies were pretty awful, uninspired, and lacked a good story. But that sequel was way worse
Disney had all these great SW books they could've brought to the screen. Instead, gave them all a middle finger and brought a much worse story to the screen with the sequels
I don't think "knowing more about Star Wars" matters any more.She edited the original trilogy.
She probably knows more about Star Wars than anyone on this forum.
Rey is great.
Luke got some training over a day, blinded by a helmet, and used the force to shove a bomb down a pipe.
Thinking that Disney didn't put the leg work in to have a good female character isn't the same as not wanting female characters.…We know. The point is that the quote about "female jedi" is literally indistinguishable from countless comments by alt-right youtubers.
So it's even dumber then? Got it.
I mean the biggest cheerleader for killing Han was uh you know Harison Ford
Thinking that Disney didn't put the leg work in to have a good female character isn't the same as not wanting female characters.
Luke didn't fight off Vader with a lightsaber in ANH though, did he? Shit, he didn't even win a fight until the third movie. He performed well in a spacecraft during the climax, which the narrative set-up earlier with his claims that it was no different than shooting womp-rats (lol).
But Rey is so capable at everything right off the bat, there's no room for growth. She can fight, fix ships, wield a lightsaber, fucking jedi mind trick people, all in her first outing! She's already peaked! I mean it was fun and all, but just bad writing. It would have been more compelling to see her fail at some stuff first, then watch her overcome challenges and get better each movie. Plus not have a garbage origin drawn on tissue paper by a naked drug-fuelled JJ. That would have been nice too.
Yeah, I mean you got some subtle story telling, like how in New Hope Obi Wan shows off the mind trick and then, in Return of the Jedi Luke does it too, a simple way to show his experience.Luke didn't fight off Vader with a lightsaber in ANH though, did he? Shit, he didn't even win a fight until the third movie. He performed well in a spacecraft during the climax, which the narrative set-up earlier with his claims that it was no different than shooting womp-rats (lol).
But Rey is so capable at everything right off the bat, there's no room for growth. She can fight, fix ships, wield a lightsaber, fucking jedi mind trick people, all in her first outing! She's already peaked! I mean it was fun and all, but just bad writing. It would have been more compelling to see her fail at some stuff first, then watch her overcome challenges and get better each movie. Plus not have a garbage origin drawn on tissue paper by a naked drug-fuelled JJ. That would have been nice too.
Luke was a fucking farmer
While Rey was a literal self raised survivor living on a hell planet
Gee I wonder why she can kinda fight well
Yeah, I mean you got some subtle story telling, like how in New Hope Obi Wan shows off the mind trick and then, in Return of the Jedi Luke does it to, a simple way to show his experience.
With Rey you got her do it right away in TFA and then again in Rise of Skywalker and it's just like.... ok cool?
but what Rey being a woman has to do with fucking anything??????
why do people keep mentioning that?
you would be okay if he was a man, and had the same backstory????
no???
then why does the fuck matter that she is a woman?!