Must be nice to skip potentially good games because of the platform
"Potentially good" games don't have a chance vs actual good games on a platform that puts the customer as #1 and not a distant #5, after investors and Tencent money.
Must be nice to skip potentially good games because of the platform
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"
You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.
They have the right to do whatever they want with it.
These Epic exclusivity threads are out of hand now. If y'all dont want to support the developers or their games, you're entitled too, but we dont need a million threads on them.
And this broke about a day ago.
Like everything EGS-related, it's all last-second deals and no planning. Just throw money at things and deal with the details later.
None of those people matter because they're poor and pay less for video gamesTo be fair, not everyone can use Epic or it really is a worse option than Steam, Epic doesn't seem to care about Linux countries at all and people from third world countries or ones where getting games is harder have noticed that Steam offers more payment options and it's a lot easier.
They should have done the legwork first. This wasn't unforseen.And this broke about a day ago.
Just like a timed platform exclusivity doesn't tend to lead with "yo dog, just wait a year for the definitive edition" so too does a launcher exclusivity not launch with "But seriously, folk who hate this thing can keep ignoring it"
Be cautious. But if this is a studio that you felt was worth giving money to for their vision, be optimistic that they aren't going to dick you over. If they still haven't addressed anything in a week, grab them pitchforks, I guess. But to immediately assume the worst?
Which is why I agree that backers should be offered refunds, at least if the devs don't plan to honor them with Steam codes at launch. However, 75k of the 125k total was invested by investors and I think the devs primary responsibility should be to ensure that this group gets a return out of this project. "Sorry you've made a loss, but we decided to decline the EGS offer that could have made you some profits" (exaggeratedly speaking) doesn't strike me as acceptable. Of course, so is not offering an alternative to people who merely pledged money, but I'm sure they'll find a way to accommodate for these people. The other way around it would be significantly more difficult.Fig investors are a separate group from Fig backers, for whom the service acts as a completely normal kickstarter analogue. Investors I'm sure are very happy, backers, not necessarily so much.
Must be nice to skip potentially good games because of the platform
"Potentially good" games don't have a chance vs actual good games on a platform that puts the customer as #1 and not a distant #5, after investors and Tencent money.
Who are you?I concur, the funding was to help create their vision in a game, not to determine where to sell the game.
These Epic exclusivity threads are out of hand now. If y'all dont want to support the developers or their games, you're entitled too, but we dont need a million threads on them.
What if Valve puts customers #1 because it increases their profit?If you think Valve (or literally any company ever) puts its customers as #1 as opposed to profit, you're far too drunk on that Kool Aid.
the publisher has known about this deal for monthsAnd this broke about a day ago.
Just like a timed platform exclusivity doesn't tend to lead with "yo dog, just wait a year for the definitive edition" so too does a launcher exclusivity not launch with "But seriously, folk who hate this thing can keep ignoring it"
Be cautious. But if this is a studio that you felt was worth giving money to for their vision, be optimistic that they aren't going to dick you over. If they still haven't addressed anything in a week, grab them pitchforks, I guess. But to immediately assume the worst?
What if Valve puts customers #1 because it increases their profit?
You're right it's not a novel strategy at all. I'm trying to figure out if your point is that its Bad that they are pro consumer because they are pro consumer for profitThen they're by definition putting profit first; they just think having happy customers is the way to maximize them. Spoiler: this is not a groundbreaking or novel strategy.
Please read the message you are responding to be cause that is a naive crockThey should have done the legwork first.
Waiting for people to raise a stink is a bad look.
This is much better than alternative. Fuck customers over in the search of profits.Then they're by definition putting profit first; they just think having happy customers is the way to maximize them. Spoiler: this is not a groundbreaking or novel strategy.
And this broke about a day ago.
Just like a timed platform exclusivity doesn't tend to lead with "yo dog, just wait a year for the definitive edition" so too does a launcher exclusivity not launch with "But seriously, folk who hate this thing can keep ignoring it"
Be cautious. But if this is a studio that you felt was worth giving money to for their vision, be optimistic that they aren't going to dick you over. If they still haven't addressed anything in a week, grab them pitchforks, I guess. But to immediately assume the worst?
Must be nice to live in a country with enough white people for Epic to care about you.Must be nice to skip potentially good games because of the platform
WhatMust be nice to live in a country with enough white people for Epic to care about you.
What the fuck is this?Please read the message you are responding to be cause that is a naive crock
It is obvious Epic gave them a pretty decent exclusivity bonus. Just like sponsors tend to not like "Yo, starting tomorrow I am gonna wear Adidas because they are giving me money .But I actually think Adidas are shit. But seriously, that is a lot of money" so too do launcher-holders (it is kind of telling we don't even have a word for this...) not like their investments being completely undermined.
I am going to assume you are super smart and above all the marketing. You know this is an exclusivity bonus. I know this is an exclusivity bonus. You are obviously going to wait to get the game you are interested in on Steam. I might grab it on Epic, depending on when we get cloud saves. But lots of folk are going to say "Oh, whatever." and just redeem on whatever launcher lets them play it first.
Devs take the bonus to get a guaranteed payday. Maybe they would make more money from direct sales on Steam, maybe not. But they are getting a guaranteed check in the mail regardless of if their game is the next Fortnite or a complete failure.
And Epic gives them money because it is advertisement for their store and it gets them a broader customer base.
Must be nice to skip potentially good games because of the platform
Like, yeah, stuff changes in development those are the risks of backing a crowdfunded project as far as changes go this seems pretty mundane? Like PC users can just use either launcher right?
Epic makes people of color pay more than they would have on Steam.
Yeah, they should also cancel the Xbox version for now since they only get 70% on that platform.
Must be nice to live in a country with enough white people for Epic to care about you.
The developers of Phoenix Point and now The Outer Wilds are poisoning the well for future crowdfunding campaigns for all developers.
Weren't you complaining about EGS prices just the other day?
If you think Valve (or literally any company ever) puts its customers as #1 as opposed to profit, you're far too drunk on that Kool Aid. You can rightfully shit on the Epic Store without having to lick the boots of other corporate overlords.
Just another launcher people should prob be getting banned at this point. It's mid-May and EGS has been a story for awhile. They know what's up and are just trolling.
I was. Hell, I even deleted my Epic account over all this fuckery that they keep pulling.
I mean, Epic does decide with payment processors to support and how it charges consumers over that.I was. Hell, I even deleted my Epic account over all this fuckery that they keep pulling.
But EGS does have regional pricing and they are not the ones who decide on the pricing of which region gets what, that's up to the developers/publishers. So bringing the argument of countries with white people into the mix seems weird to me unless there's something I'm missing.
People in the US or Europe aren't getting a magically better deal than I am for the same stuff nor do they benefit in any way by this EGS deal.
If this makes the devs more money, then I'm all for it. I have no problem managing multiple storefronts.
You're right it's not a novel strategy at all. I'm trying to figure out if your point is that its Bad that they are pro consumer because they are pro consumer for profit
This is much better than alternative. Fuck customers over in the search of profits.