I mean that relative to its performance with the last game btw. I think AC will comfortably top the charts.
Yeah bro, I too think that AC will easily beat the other two. Pretty excited for next week's charts. :D
I mean that relative to its performance with the last game btw. I think AC will comfortably top the charts.
[Week 46, 2007] ASSASSIN'S CREED (UBISOFT) - 156,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 47, 2009] ASSASSIN'S CREED II (UBISOFT) - 175,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2010] ASSASSIN'S CREED: BROTHERHOOD (UBISOFT) - 207,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2011] ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS (UBISOFT) - 215,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2012] ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT) - 332,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 128,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: ROGUE (UBISOFT) -
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: UNITY (UBISOFT) - 153,000 / NEW (95%)
[Week 43, 2015] ASSASSIN'S CREED: SYNDICATE (UBISOFT) ~ 100,000 / NEW (95%)
Steam should always be taken with a grain of salt, since there are so many complicated demographic problems, and the Steamspy numbers won't stabilize for a few days, but...
I mean that relative to its performance with the last game btw. I think AC will comfortably top the charts.
AC Syndicate was the lowest debut for the franchise since original and it still sold about 100k units first week. No Mario platformer has opened with over 100k first week sales in UK. If Origins is somewhat up from the Syndicate I don't see how Mario could be number one next week even if it did new record for Mario platformers.
Just going off the performance of the most recent Bethesda games, I don't think its performance is as clear as you think it is. At the very least, it is something worth considering.Well of course. The first one was a surprise hit and got a positive word of mouth. This, combined with the marketing of Wolf2, will ensure that it'll do better than the first one.
No one should be surprised.
Your digital adoption point is good and could make difference . I don't know about mindshare as there really isn't anything else than anecdote evidence of that. For example you didn't see much discussion about new Ghost Recon here yet it had huge debut. Galaxy games were also major critical successes with lot of internet hype behind them and released when UK market was at its peak and Wii was selling like crazy yet neither debuted with over 100k in UK. I mean with Mario games being all about legs Odyssey will be great success in UK too (just like pretty much all mainline Mario games) but I am not so sure about first week being that high.AC could be down/flat physically while being up overall, trends in digital share growing are more pronounced on the twins compared to the Switch.
I also think that releasing on the same day as SMO effected both AC:O and Wolfenstein 2 negatively, since the amount of viral/organic mind-share was limited due to Mario dominating the news in social media. Overall I wouldn't be suprised if SMO opens over 100K physically in the UK.
Bear in mind that buying games digitally in the UK is not particularly popular because you end up paying way more than physical retail.AC could be down/flat physically while being up overall, trends in digital share growing are more pronounced on the twins compared to the Switch.
Fire bomba. I know UK isn't strong for Nintendo but I hope odyssey can knock it out of the park.
Not sure how they are disappointing it sold better then 2 games in the franchise in the UK on physical alone.Gran Turismo Sport numbers are disappointing.
There's no reason why the biggest Sony franchise had to limit their audience. They should've been given the budget (if this was the problem) to make a product able to reach both the classic single player audience and the multiplayer audience. 4 years is plenty of time for this.
We've seen Sony first party games do much better this generation. A well rounded Gran Turismo and with a better hype cycle would have rivaled GT5.
Missed oportunity. We'll see if the e-sports gamble pays of in the long run.
Those two games are the very first entry, when GT was new, and the site, which suffered from incredible mismanagement by being exclusive to PS3 when PS4 was out for a month already. Passing those, even if with physical only, shouldn't be the bar for selling fine imo. The numbers indicate it is likely half of GT5, which I wouldn't consider good.Not sure how they are disappointing it sold better then 2 games in the franchise in the UK on physical alone.
The sales numbers are good. So I don't really know what you mean by "disappointing".Gran Turismo Sport numbers are disappointing.
There's no reason why the biggest Sony franchise had to limit their audience. They should've been given the budget (if this was the problem) to make a product able to reach both the classic single player audience and the multiplayer audience. 4 years is plenty of time for this.
We've seen Sony first party games do much better this generation. A well rounded Gran Turismo and with a better hype cycle would have rivaled GT5.
Missed oportunity. We'll see if the e-sports gamble pays off in the long run.
GT5 was 7 years ago. And again: The days of a racing sim selling over 10 million copies are over.Those two games are the very first entry, when GT was new, and the site, which suffered from incredible mismanagement by being exclusive to PS3 when PS4 was out for a month already. Passing those, even if with physical only, shouldn't be the bar for selling fine imo. The numbers indicate it is likely half of GT5, which I wouldn't consider good.
Good to see you Bruno.
Not a good result for GT Sport. What a time, that NDs one year dev time DLC outsells it in the UK, despite that ND title also being available to season pass owners.
GT Sport should have much better legs than UC though.
Also, nice to see Aqua here.
Should be easy enough to find out next week, given that UK should be GT's strongest territory.
Gran Turismo Sport numbers are disappointing.
There's no reason why the biggest Sony franchise had to limit their audience. They should've been given the budget (if this was the problem) to make a product able to reach both the classic single player audience and the multiplayer audience. 4 years is plenty of time for this.
We've seen Sony first party games do much better this generation. A well rounded Gran Turismo and with a better hype cycle would have rivaled GT5.
Missed oportunity. We'll see if the e-sports gamble pays off in the long run.
I have collected the first week UK sales for some racing franchises.
F1 2015 - 45,000
F1 2016 - 30,000
F1 2017 - 29,000
Forza Motorsport 3 - 80,000
Forza Motorsport 4 - 106,000
Forza Motorsport 5 -
Forza Motorsport 6 - 35,000
Forza Motorsport 7 - 27,000
Forza Horizon -
Forza Horizon 2 - 61,000
Forza Horizon 3 - 68,000
Gran Turismo - 44,000
Gran Turismo 2 - 86,000
Gran Turismo 3 - 69,000
Gran Turismo 4 - 253,000
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 108,000
Gran Turismo 5 - 269,000
Gran Turismo 6 - 55,000
Gran Turismo Sport - 74,000
Project CARS - 55,000
Project CARS 2 - 14,000
Please note that these figures aren't up-weighted to cover the portion of market GfK Chart-Track doesn't track, so the difference is bigger for some titles. For example, if we extrapolate Gran Turismo 3 for total market then it sold 92,000 units vs 78,000 for Gran Turismo Sport.
Nobody should expect 10m from GTS, but it should slightly outsell GT6, so 6-7m is realistic.
Your digital adoption point is good and could make difference . I don't know about mindshare as there really isn't anything else than anecdote evidence of that. For example you didn't see much discussion about new Ghost Recon here yet it had huge debut. Galaxy games were also major critical successes with lot of internet hype behind them and released when UK market was at its peak and Wii was selling like crazy yet neither debuted with over 100k in UK. I mean with Mario games being all about legs Odyssey will be great success in UK too (just like pretty much all mainline Mario games) but I am not so sure about first week being that high.
Odyssey is bundled in Europe though right. I don't think the Galaxies were at launch...
AC > SMO > W
The latest issue of MCV Magazine shares very interesting sales data stats that allow us to have very accurate estimates for a bunch of 2017 releases. The article compares the performance of Gran Turismo Sports with other games.
I use as I base for these estimations Uncharted: The Lost Legacy which sold around 80,000 units.
Sony First-Party Titles
[Week 26, 2017] CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) ~ 118,000 / NEW
https://issuu.com/newbayeurope/docs/mcv928_27th_october
Those two games are the very first entry, when GT was new, and the site, which suffered from incredible mismanagement by being exclusive to PS3 when PS4 was out for a month already. Passing those, even if with physical only, shouldn't be the bar for selling fine imo. The numbers indicate it is likely half of GT5, which I wouldn't consider good.
GTS numbers are pretty poor, yea. PD is no longer going to get the free reign that they've been given so far by Sony. Not only are they not the top dog in terms of Sony studios, I think they won't even be top 3 by generations end (sales wise). Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica and Guerrilla Games will probably hold those honors. I'm expecting big changes at how PD is managed, given how they mismanaged the GT franchise recently.
That's true, But GTS seems headed towards a performance less than half of GT5. I really don't think that's a good result. It may have strong legs and go decently over half of GT5 in the end, but WoM doesn't seem exceptional, so I don't think that will happen.GTS was never going to match GT5. The market has changed and its a new direction. It also doesn't match GT5 or close to that to be a massive success.
Hey Bruno, I have kinda lost track of the latest estimate for the last few weeks of N. Sane total sales in the UK according to the weekly drops/increases, it would be nice if you could give us a comprehensive picture of how the game is doing so far in the UK
By the end of October, Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy will have outsold Horizon: Zero Dawn in the UK to be the No.1 PS4 exclusive of 2017
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/920931537004228608
People who buy a new current gen console. This is clear from statistics.It's amazing how well GTA V is still doing. I mean who DOESN'T own GTA at this point?
The last time its weekly percentage change was shared was 7 weeks ago and life-to-date sales were about 270,000 units. By now it must have easily crossed 300,000 units. For example, last week (week 41) it was one spot ahead of the Xbox One version of The Evil Within 2, which approximately sold 4,500 units.
Here a recent tweet from Cristopher Dring.
Oh right, do console and GTA sales correlate?People who buy a new current gen console. This is clear from statistics.
How much did Uncharted 4?The latest issue of MCV Magazine shares very interesting sales data stats that allow us to have very accurate estimates for a bunch of 2017 releases. The article compares the performance of Gran Turismo Sports with other games.
I use as I base for these estimations Uncharted: The Lost Legacy which sold around 80,000 units.
Sony First-Party Titles
[Week 09, 2017] HORIZON ZERO DAWN (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) ~ 114,000 / NEW
[Week 26, 2017] CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) ~ 118,000 / NEW
[Week 34, 2017] UNCHARTED: THE LOST LEGACY (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) ~ 80,000 / NEW
[Week 42, 2017] GRAN TURISMO: SPORT (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) ~ 74,000 / NEW
Yes, almost perfectly:
So Forza Horizon 3 and Cash Bandicoot will be the best selling Xbox One and Ps4 exclusives in 2017 in the UK*.
Who would've believed that in late 2016?
*at retail
Here are the numbers for AC launches in UK, thanks Bruno!
Code:[Week 46, 2007] ASSASSIN'S CREED (UBISOFT) - 156,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 47, 2009] ASSASSIN'S CREED II (UBISOFT) - 175,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 46, 2010] ASSASSIN'S CREED: BROTHERHOOD (UBISOFT) - 207,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 46, 2011] ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS (UBISOFT) - 215,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 44, 2012] ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT) - 332,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 128,000 / NEW (90%) [Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: ROGUE (UBISOFT) - [Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: UNITY (UBISOFT) - 153,000 / NEW (95%) [Week 43, 2015] ASSASSIN'S CREED: SYNDICATE (UBISOFT) ~ 100,000 / NEW (95%)
I think AC:O will land somewhere between Unity and Syndicate, my guess is 130k. The question is whether SMO can top that number. I'm going to guess that it will edge out in front of AC, such that Mario > AC > Wolfenstein.
PD are only second to Naughty Dog. I'm not, because PD still makes quality games that appeal to millions.