Paying to work for EXPOSURE
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Working for exposure is such a scam, it should be illegal. It angers me so much that young creators are getting screwed by this.
I was working on an expo once where the organizer had a Youtuber section made as part of the expo (it was a gaming expo).
This section was actually given out for free and the only requirement was that you were a local and had an active channel. There was a limited amount of booths to be given out (8 total) and were roughly 2m x 3m in size.
The youtubers that joined ranged from very small (500 subscribers) to very large (100k subscribers)
Again the above was given for free and was a way to showcase local talent.
One of the groups wanted a 10m x 10m space for free + their logos all over the expo area + pay THEM a few thousand dollars in return for exposure (this doesnt include the tickets we had to give their team which was a couple of dozen people)
We refused obviously and they insisted that we would not be successful if we refuse lol. Expo ended up being beyond successful depsite the lack of "exposure"
This section was actually given out for free and the only requirement was that you were a local and had an active channel. There was a limited amount of booths to be given out (8 total) and were roughly 2m x 3m in size.
The youtubers that joined ranged from very small (500 subscribers) to very large (100k subscribers)
Again the above was given for free and was a way to showcase local talent.
One of the groups wanted a 10m x 10m space for free + their logos all over the expo area + pay THEM a few thousand dollars in return for exposure (this doesnt include the tickets we had to give their team which was a couple of dozen people)
We refused obviously and they insisted that we would not be successful if we refuse lol. Expo ended up being beyond successful depsite the lack of "exposure"
My GF is a photographer and can confirm the stupidity and entitlement of these idiots.
I used to do photography and write for a site that reviewed sports cars. One day the owner of the site (who owns cars worth millions of dollars) asked 3 of us on the "staff" if we'd like to cover a 4 day event that was 350 miles away. I said sure and asked about how we'd handle travel, hotel, and expenses. He got very offended and told me that we'd obviously be paying our own costs out of our own pockets and that he'd be willing to pay us 10 cents a word for a 2,000 word article, with high quality photos included, split three ways. So a little over $60 in pay for each of us to cover a 4 day event that would cost us each several hundred dollars to attend. I never spoke to him again.
I want to be a photographer and this is true on so many levels.
"but you just push a button, anyone can do it" said the person that couldn't even held my camera right and got her fingers plastered on the lens.
How is this any different than everything else posted above about not paying people? The EXPO wanted content creators to work for free, or rather "exposure". Why didn't they pay the Youtubers to be part of their event? Most event's pay the talent to show up. Their time is money.
Expo didn't want anything. It was just a section to showcase local talent. I think you misunderstood.
Did you think it was a meet and greet type thing where they took pics and autographs and such? It wasn't.
The expo wanted content, i.e. Youtubers. The whole point of an expo is to get people into the door and so the organizers can make money. Every booth, etc is a means to that end (adding content to the expo to bring more bodies/ticket sales and concessions). I see nothing wrong with some of the Youtubers asking to be paid for their time and presence.
Time is money. Out of all the people in the world, social media influencers should be the most aware of this fact, but here were are...
I mean you are right except there was no ticket entry and even actual celebrities (voice actors, artists, etc) were free to sign and take photos with.
There was even a concert that was free to attend
Again it was about showcasing local talent. The expo is big on showcasing talents and only recently started charging for tickets because thier cost rose by a lot
The expo did this with developers, artists, etc in previous years
Well if it was a free public event (have to be government organized I guess), then I guess it makes sense. Two sides to every coin :)
Kind of weird to blame 'youtubers' when the perp isn't even one - seems like they don't even have a channel with a decent enough subscriber count.
He's just dealing with a child.
Also, they should charge more than $60 for animations.
He's just dealing with a child.
Also, they should charge more than $60 for animations.
It was a company organized event lol and no sponsors even. So don't be too quick to judge next time :) there are still good people out there :)
So, crediting Finale Fireworker for being the original curator of this video, Mist for finding it again when FiFi couldn't, B-Dubs for liking it on Twitter (???) and Poodlestrike for *checks notes* existing, I guess. But here's a relevant Tik Tok video that made us all laugh enough that I feel we ought to share:
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Glad I'm getting the credit I deserve. ❤ You can pay me in exposure.
Any artist want to make me the smuggest, most arrogant anime avatar? Can pay in exposure as I have over 10k posts on this website.
Jesus christ. First I laughed at the prices given our go-to artist already charges $30-40 for a single emote (which is perfectly reasonable), but then comes the twist lol
Being offered exposure is complete BS and anybody worth their salt would know this. My favorites are the ones who want me to work for free and tell me I can use it in my portfolio. Guess what, Genius? I can use the work I was paid for in my portfolio too.
I'm holding you personally accountable for the lack of a prototype release of Socks the Cat Rocks the Hill.
Is what I was going to say before I found out the SNES prototype did surface last year. Hooray!
Anyway, exposure sucks. I work in theater and have made it a rule that I refuse to work for free. A lot of my friends do community theater which is fine, but I just can't abide. I paid thousands of dollars to study this.
Weird thread isn't it? Seems like it's about money? I've seen people make $ doing all sorts of things if you want to commit the time to it, I like time and am ok not making money if it means I have my time.
I feel like I should be compensated for watching and laughing at this. What is art without an audience?
