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Oct 27, 2017
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Also, Naoto is fuck busted in PQ, her Dark/Light attacks mean she can clear random encounters in seconds
I keep hearing this but what makes hama and mudo so busted in this? Is it the persona ability you can pass on that makes them more likely to hit? Is it really that much of a boost?

They just seem to work the same way they do in the regular games with a large chance to miss.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I keep hearing this but what makes hama and mudo so busted in this? Is it the persona ability you can pass on that makes them more likely to hit? Is it really that much of a boost?

They just seem to work the same way they do in the regular games with a large chance to miss.
Copy-pasted from TV tropes:
"Many enemies are weak to at least one of the two (hama and mudo), meaning a higher hit rate and activating Boost, freeing you of any HP or SP cost the next turn. Naoto, in particular, is especially great with this with her high speed, decent attack power, having both Hama and Mudo while not being weak to either one like [Ken and Koromaru]. And with the Boost system, she can also cast her powerful Almighty skills without much worry."

Basically, she has two elements to exploit (three if you count her weapon), which gives her more access to the Boost status, which eliminates the high costs of her skills, which is an advantage no other character has.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, Naoto was broken and it made the game far less challenging for me, having chosen to play her when the game came out without that knowledge. They apparently addressed this specific issue in PQ2, though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Copy-pasted from TV tropes:
"Many enemies are weak to at least one of the two (hama and mudo), meaning a higher hit rate and activating Boost, freeing you of any HP or SP cost the next turn. Naoto, in particular, is especially great with this with her high speed, decent attack power, having both Hama and Mudo while not being weak to either one like [Ken and Koromaru]. And with the Boost system, she can also cast her powerful Almighty skills without much worry."

Basically, she has two elements to exploit (three if you count her weapon), which gives her more access to the Boost status, which eliminates the high costs of her skills, which is an advantage no other character has.
That's not the reason why she's broken (Almighty skills are garbage in PQ). She's broken because the Impure Reach skill roughly doubles her chance of instant kills succeeding. This means that pretty much any character with high luck can abuse a similar setup with sub Personas (P3 protagonist, Ken, etc).

Random encounter jank aside, I think Aigis is the best character in the game due to her utility vs tougher bosses.
 

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I might start playing Persona starting with 3 so I'd love to join the discord and get some help (quoting to get the invite link, don't mind me).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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i just want to say that the persona 2 eternal punishment portable opening is real bad - the intro up to the title card is fine, but then it weirdly shifts to "what if we just did the stuff from the ps1 opening, but like way worse in every respect, right down to including like, animated versions of the fmv montage clips used for budgetary reasons in the original's opening"

also lol forever @ taking the ulala mirror scene, which is one of the best composed scenes in the opening and gave you a greater sense of her character than any of the others, being hacked down to her her angry face on a few spinning shards of glass.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I might start playing Persona starting with 3 so I'd love to join the discord and get some help (quoting to get the invite link, don't mind me).
You don't have to quote anything, just post in the thread. (The old way to have hidden text was to quote but not post; the hidden text would appear in the post code. This went away with the 2.0 forum update.)
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So something I found interesting. A YouTuber I like called Caddicarus recently put up his review of the PlayStation Classic.(spoiler:he didn’t like it)

What I found interesting though was his thoughts on Revelations:Persona. He talked about how he immediately drawn in by the art and strange world. Random but I find the perspective of someone unfamiliar with the series being drawn into it fascinating. I’m hoping he checks the series out as he only played for a few minutes to get a brief look at the games quality on the PSC.

I think the fact that someone can become interested even from just seeing a few minutes speaks to the quality of the series even if it’s not an entry I personally like.

I don’t know I find it cool to see someone new seeing it for the first time.

If you’re curious he talks about it at 17:45.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Concerning Junpei Iori's English VA: https://www.resetera.com/threads/vo...ia-antisemitism-and-sexual-harrassment.94896/

Had been hearing these stories for a long time, and it's surfaced again.
This is incredibly disappointing as his performance as Junpei is one of my favourite performances in a game. Most disappointing though is that it sounds like this was pretty common knowledge for a very long time. I'm hoping that we won't hear from him anymore in the future but I won't get my hopes up too much.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That really stings. Junpei is one of my favorite Persona characters and that was largely due to his performance.

In other news, I've been totally abusing the fuck out of hama and muda and now I have the "ma" spells for both. Good times.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I love Aigis in Persona Q so much. She's a real weirdo.

"You bet your bippy"

I fricking hate Teddie so much though, he's super obnoxious.

Still miss his original VA, Sam Riegel's lines just kind of grates on my nerves. He went from cartoonishly charming to just kind of annoying.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I love Aigis in Persona Q so much. She's a real weirdo.

"You bet your bippy"

I fricking hate Teddie so much though, he's super obnoxious.

Still miss his original VA, Sam Riegel's lines just kind of grates on my nerves. He went from cartoonishly charming to just kind of annoying.
Best advice I can give is to listen to Japanese Teddie.
It'll make the most amateurish 90s dub sound like the sweetest song.

edit: But hey, I've liked Sam's version of Teddie better than Dave's since Arena, so what do I know?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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When are we getting PQ2 in the west? I want it Atlus.

And man, I pretty much stuck with one party throughout the first game, but it’s gonna be even harder in the second to choose a team. Wonder who will be good, not good, buffed from the first game, nerfed

My team was P4MC, Akihiko, P3MC, Aigis, and Naoto. I wanted to use Kanji but just couldn’t fit him in.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Gotta say despite really enjoying Q, I don't think I'll ever be able to play Etrian Oddyssey. The style and writing is a big part of what keeps me going.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I managed to get King Crazy on every song in P3/4/5D on hard difficulty!
P3D was the first game, while P4D was the last game.
The last song I got KC on in each game was Burn My Dread (OP ver) for both P3D and P5D, and The Fog (Atlus Konishi remix) in P4D.
Going try my hand at All Night difficulty but I don't think I'll be getting KC on every song.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I managed to get King Crazy on every song in P3/4/5D on hard difficulty!
P3D was the first game, while P4D was the last game.
The last song I got KC on in each game was Burn My Dread (OP ver) for both P3D and P5D, and The Fog (Atlus Konishi remix) in P4D.
Going try my hand at All Night difficulty but I don't think I'll be getting KC on every song.
You are a lot better at this game then I could ever hope to be.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Every once in awhile I think about trying Dancing All Night but I just hate idol stuff and I'm not really a fan of dancing/music games in general.

Just gotta accept not all Persona games are for me.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Every once in awhile I think about trying Dancing All Night but I just hate idol stuff and I'm not really a fan of dancing/music games in general.

Just gotta accept not all Persona games are for me.
I at least recommend looking up the social events for 3/5 Dancing.

There genuinely good character moments IMO.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Every once in awhile I think about trying Dancing All Night but I just hate idol stuff and I'm not really a fan of dancing/music games in general.

Just gotta accept not all Persona games are for me.
As someone who agrees with you on the idol stuff, I've loved the character bits in 3/5D.
Meanwhile I can't bring myself to even look up P4D's story.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Lack of a dub has definitely put a damper on my excitement for PQ2 and this is pretty soon after I had turned a corner on it and was actually starting to look forward to it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No english dub is a bit of a bummer but understandable. The 3DS is effectively done and there are a lot of characters in the game so they must've figured it wasn't worth the cost for such a niche release. Better than not localizing it like P2 EP on PSP.
 
Oct 27, 2017
13,411
I feel like I should change my avatar now. Feels wrong to have something for a game I don’t even intend to buy anymore.

Edit: eh I’ll keep it till I find something I like more.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I like the JP voice casts for Persona so this is fine with me, but definitely a bummer for dub fans. I've been on the other side of Only English dubs being included in JP games so I understand how this stings for a lot of people. Lines up with how they treated Strange Journey Redux, but really weird since every Persona game prior to this has basically had only dub outside of P4U and P5.