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Physical copies of Final Fantasy 16 are reportedly in the wild
- Thread starter Angie
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If any game should have been reviewed less favorably for its technical issues it's for sure that one.
This looks like a pretty poor performance mode. It's missing its target frequently by at least 15-20%, often ~33%, and occasionally 50%+. Sort of a similar ballpark as launch Forspoken and day 1 Jedi by the looks of it.
They really shouldn't have said anything about not needing a day 1 patch so far in advance tbh. Gives similar vibes to the Jedi shit about only needing a few extra weeks. Nobody would have been mad if there was a day 1 patch available.
Given visuals of the game and the fact that it's an action title this sort of result is pretty disappointing.
The easy improvements would be a 40 fps mode and motion blur options. Would be good if they could get those in for launch at a minimum.
They really shouldn't have said anything about not needing a day 1 patch so far in advance tbh. Gives similar vibes to the Jedi shit about only needing a few extra weeks. Nobody would have been mad if there was a day 1 patch available.
Given visuals of the game and the fact that it's an action title this sort of result is pretty disappointing.
The easy improvements would be a 40 fps mode and motion blur options. Would be good if they could get those in for launch at a minimum.
No game should have gotten a pass for performance issues but if they start with FFXVI then i guess better late than never
Go play XIV
Ngl, interested in the dogs review. Easily bowwowwow/10
During the Shiva vs Titan fight it did look pretty ugly in places while funneling you through a linear falling debris path
I don't disagree that games shouldn't get a pass, but if I was the FF team I would be like wtf if my game was the first one.
So I'm re-reading that no day 1 patch interview and like.. the team even says "we have nothing planned but we're still continuing to test and that might be subject to change," so I dunno. I'm not expecting a Day 1 patch but I could definitely see a patch in the next couple of weeks (because in no way, shape, or form did anyone imply in that interview that the game would be "perfect" and would never need patches or some shit)
we've had this discussion and people are like "how did reviewers not mention performers issues or reduce points" like performance isn't a variable thing that people have drastically different tolerances for
that's not to excuse it but you can't assume your experience with a game is going to have been the same as someone else's. like if their game never crashed and they aren't sensitive to framerate drops... they probably won't say anything
that's not to excuse it but you can't assume your experience with a game is going to have been the same as someone else's. like if their game never crashed and they aren't sensitive to framerate drops... they probably won't say anything
you're telling me ffxvi naysayers are using exaggeration and strawmen? I never!
But yes, clearly the performance in the 60fps mode needs to be much better. But that was never what their day 1 patch statement was about.
They never promised a flawless game, but a game that was feature complete and relatively bug-free out of the box.
Exactly what I wanted to say, yep. They spoke about bugs and never excluded a patch happening. But somehow, for some people that became them boasting about having a perfect game.
DF are the only people i trust with insightful performance takes on games. Or tbh, the only people i trust to actually properly acknowledge and critique games with their performance in mind as an aspect of the overall experience.
Far too many games in the last 2 years or so that were straight up unacceptably broken have gotten a pass from the vast majority of reviewers.
Far too many games in the last 2 years or so that were straight up unacceptably broken have gotten a pass from the vast majority of reviewers.
There are people who like consuming and discussing leaks and I guess it's a good way to cordon off spoiler talk, so that it doesn't spill into other threads.
isn't it exclusive to playstation only until december 31st?
Elden Ring was nowhere near as bad as the FF16 demo, especially on a VRR TV.
I just can't help but wonder why so many are so personally mad at the no day-1 patch thing.
Like some even sound angry about it.
Like some even sound angry about it.
In your case, maybe. FFXVI had no drops on my PS5, while Elden Ring hang up everytime I went to a different area on a PC way more powerful than a PS5. It depends on each person.
i believe you talking about me so i'm not attempting to derail or make discussion bad. i was just pointing out responding to a user why people are being energetic to critique FF16 performance mode and lack of day one patch.
i apologize and admit i wrote such terms w/o going back to read the article and acted on unreliable memory.
i'm also not a naysaywer wth i want the game to be good.
So that fellow who got the physical version early was kind enough to take the performance mode for a spin:
Looks like the retail version still has performance issues:
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I'm going to see if he can check the quality mode to see if the blur situation is any better. But at this point I doubt it is.
Looks like the retail version still has performance issues:
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I'm going to see if he can check the quality mode to see if the blur situation is any better. But at this point I doubt it is.
Traditionally console performance has a much higher standard than PC performance. PC's aren't standardized and a variable experience is expected. No one is going to mark Elden Ring down because your PC had issues with it. When there are widespread performance issues on identical hardware (consoles) this affects everyone equally. If you are claiming your magical PS5 maintained a solid 60 FPS throughout the entirety of FF16's demo, then please make a video and show us, because I think you aren't being truthful.
Where have I claimed my PS5 mantained solid 60FPS throughout FF16s demo? I said that I didn't feel like I had any drops in Performance Mode. I don't know if it's at 60FPS, or 30FPS.
Variable experiences in PC are expected, bad performance is not, which is what happened with Elden Ring in most PCs.
Looks like it's about to start loading up that spoiler protection extension. If anyone hears about a store in Austin releasing it early let ya boy know. Would love to write a thesis on it.
Is that an insert for the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV, featuring an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of A Realm Reborn and the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 for free with no restrictions on playtime?Go play XIV
It's a great to see that the producers of these two games have such a good relationship.
Reminder that there are browser plugins to hide youtube spoilers.
Time for me to feed BlockTube with "FFXVI" filter words ("Clive", "Joshua", "Jill" etc).
Time for me to feed BlockTube with "FFXVI" filter words ("Clive", "Joshua", "Jill" etc).
Performance mode claims to run the game at 60FPS. When you say "I had no drops" that generally would be interpreted that your FPS was stable the entire time. If all you meant was that it was a smooth experience and you didn't perceive anything jarring, that's great, but the vast majority of people are not having that experience.
If Elden Ring truly ran poorly for most people with the recommended PC requirements, then yes, it should have been marked down for it. And this game should be marked down as well for poor performance.
FPS look's atrocious.So that fellow who got the physical version early was kind enough to take the performance mode for a spin:
Looks like the retail version still has performance issues:
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I'm going to see if he can check the quality mode to see if the blur situation is any better. But at this point I doubt it is.
You're telling me that the shader drops simply don't happen just by having powerful PCs? Dang. Shoulda gotten a 4090.
What I can tell you is that what I played of the demo (I only played the first 2 hours they allow you and a bit of the dungeon later, although I discard this part because it was just way too dark and if there were drops I wouldn't have realized properly) didn't go at all like in that launch version performance analysis video. And I'm quite sensitive to any kind of drops/frame changes since I've played in PC for most of my life now and I regularly test framerates on my own computer.
I could've had drops on the Eikon fight, I think I increased the brightness there and between all the effects I didn't have a clean image when it was heavy on attack FX, but on the more cinematic moments, for example that drop on 5:43, I'm sure didn't happen on my end.
Still, it's the disc version of the game. I'm pretty sure the preview version journalists played was .03, the demo was .01 and this is .00.
Great, so now if we believe Yoshi-P about this game not getting a big day one patch, we can confirm if the performance and graphics modes run as badly in the final product as they did in the demo. The people who claim loudly that the demo was from an early build and everything will be fine by the time the game launches tend to get very quiet right about now.
Some of you really have a crusade to hate this game lol. PS2 graphics? FPS looks atrocious? Madness.
I dunno what to say, FF16 has some of the worst stuttering I've seen in a game. Even my wife who never notices these things pointed it out, if you can't see that stuttering (because the FPS is all over the place), then you can't be sensitive to it when this is some of the worst there is.
My brother in Christ I just want to know if I'll be buying the PS5 version or holding out a year or whatever for the PC one. In the demo, the motion blur in the graphics mode was atrocious and the performance mode did not have a stable frame rate whatsoever. If that is how the full game is going to perform at launch, I'm not buying it.
What annoys me the most is square acting all confident about how they need no day 1 patch and the game is perfect as it is... Also, all the talk about there not being a pc version because they wanted focus all their effort on the ps5 one.
I don't know what to tell you, I have a 120Hz monitor on the computer I play games on and I routinely do FPS tests on the different games I try there, and I was able to feel the stutters of Burning Shores on the PS5. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. 🤷
Really hope the blur can be turned off. It really did not look good in the demo.
Performance mode was otherwise fine for me in the demo. It dipped a lot but I could bare it. If it's dropping significantly in the full release though then I don't know...quality mode seemed way more stable to me but I do struggle with 30FPS.
Performance mode was otherwise fine for me in the demo. It dipped a lot but I could bare it. If it's dropping significantly in the full release though then I don't know...quality mode seemed way more stable to me but I do struggle with 30FPS.
Yeah Jason Schreier said he will have a lot to share next week
i think this is everything they could do until release. i read a few days ago that they couldn't get more performance out of it because of the limited time until release and they will fix any remaining performance issues after release
It wouldn't be the first time actually that a game got a pass on something and get points deducted in another for the same stuff:
Gamespot Bioshock review: "game is fantastic single player story, 10/10"
Gamespot uncharted review: "game is good but... NO ONLINE? no no no, 8/10. Put online next time in your game, suckas"
Jedi Survivor should've been raked over the goddamn coals for how shit it is. I can't currently select a different resolution because once it changes there's a prompt asking me to confirm the change with a timer running, and for some reason this is the time the game decides to reject all button input until that timer runs out and switches resolution back to the unwanted mode. Brilliant, 10/10
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