I seriously doubt that. Bringing someone into the PlayStation ecosystem is way way more valuable than selling the odd Xbox game on Steam.Sony will absolutely sell the most plastic boxes, but Microsoft is going to do better with ROI and getting more of their software in more households, since their strategy isn't tied to how well their proprietary box sells.
Might be, but won't matter much if they don't deliver with the exclusives.
But those exclusives help differentiate the consoles from one another, because as you say people buy consoles to play all the games (third party games). Which just so happens to usually be on both MS and Sony consoles.Microsoft needs to deliver on gaming as a whole, not exclusives. People buy consoles to play games - all games, not cherry pick 2 exclusives per year
This is wrong and that has been shown time and time again. The Switch is pretty much selling on the back of exclusives alone.
This is wrong and that has been shown time and time again. The Switch is pretty much selling on the back of exclusives alone.
Not saying that this is the norm for everyone but power matters a lot as well.This is wrong and that has been shown time and time again. The Switch is pretty much selling on the back of exclusives alone.
And it doesn't matter if a single exclusive game only sells to 10% of the userbase as there are several.
Gran Turismo appeals to a different audience than Ratchet and Clank or God of War or Bloodborne or Spider-Man or TLoU or Dreams or Persona 5. That's why it's important to have a broad variety of high quality exclusives. You want to appeal to as many people as possible.
Every single successful console ever blew up on the back of big exclusive games. Sales of the first PlayStation went through the roof after it started getting games like FF VII, Gran Turismo, Tekken 2 etc.switch is different than xbox and playstation. Show me how it was "proven" that exclusives matter as whole? The very top tier titles sell to 10% or less of the install base and most of them to much less. They DO NOT matter in the way people on forums like this that have personal allegiances to manufacturers like to think they do. Of course they matter to some people. But they're not the ones that sell a hundred million consoles
Every single successful console ever blew up on the back of big exclusive games. Sales of the first PlayStation went through the roof after it started getting games like FF VII, Gran Turismo, Tekken 2 etc.
Same for PS2 with Gran Turismo 3, GTA 3, Devil May Cry and others. And none of them sold to much more than 10% of the entire userbase.
Thats not the case now. It was then. You get like one or two exclusives per year now, and sony's exclusives we have to admit target much of the same audience. They make story driven cinematic singleplayer games. The audience overlaps. Consoles now share nearly all of their games, its not like how it was in the 90's.
Every sale chart is filled 90 or 100% with third party games now. People buy a console to play Fifa, Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed. Thats the bulk of the audience. Thats not to say exclusives are worthless, they're not. But i do not stand by the idea that they're the ones selling consoles and i dont agree with their overblown importance we give them on forums
If exclusive software doesnt matter than why ps4 is so far away in sales? Xbox got the same 3rd party games you were talking about and its cheaper most of the time.Thats not the case now. It was then. You get like one or two exclusives per year now, and sony's exclusives we have to admit target much of the same audience. They make story driven cinematic singleplayer games. The audience overlaps. Consoles now share nearly all of their games, its not like how it was in the 90's.
Every sale chart is filled 90 or 100% with third party games now. People buy a console to play Fifa, Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed. Thats the bulk of the audience. Thats not to say exclusives are worthless, they're not. But i do not stand by the idea that they're the ones selling consoles and i dont agree with their overblown importance we give them on forums
The last outlet that I would think is believable regarding this topic is any of the large American mainstream broadcast networks.
Unfortunately, although gaming is bigger than ever, they still don't understand how the industry works.
Exclusives matter extremely little. They're only overblown on places like this. Exclusives have extremely low percentage of adoption. Game like God of War sold to like 10% of ps4's install base and thats a rare blockbuster game.
Sony built their entire brand on exclusive trust with their gamers lol.Exclusives matter extremely little. They're only overblown on places like this. Exclusives have extremely low percentage of adoption. Game like God of War sold to like 10% of ps4's install base and thats a rare blockbuster game. Most sell less.
Microsoft needs to deliver on gaming as a whole, not exclusives. People buy consoles to play games - all games, not cherry pick 2 exclusives per year
Sony never got respect, don't have the backing of Ms money and windows, don't have the prestige of Nintendo developer and brand to succeed entirely on software even with less powerful hardware.
Sony succeed often come with qualifier like ms misstep, or reliance on 3rd party dev that may changed at any moment, etc.
This is my feeling too.I will say I have a weird feeling about Sony going into the PS5 next gen.
And yes I'm aware they haven't even shown it off yet.
Just cuz PS4 was a massive success doesn't mean the PS5 will be. Every gen is different.
Sony never got respect, don't have the backing of Ms money and windows, don't have the prestige of Nintendo developer and brand to succeed entirely on software even with less powerful hardware.
Sony succeed often come with qualifier like ms misstep, or reliance on 3rd party dev that may changed at any moment, etc.
Exclusives matter extremely little. They're only overblown on places like this. Exclusives have extremely low percentage of adoption. Game like God of War sold to like 10% of ps4's install base and thats a rare blockbuster game. Most sell less.
Microsoft needs to deliver on gaming as a whole, not exclusives. People buy consoles to play games - all games, not cherry pick 2 exclusives per year
Obviously it's a joke, but people seem to often underestimate Sony. I don't know how many times I've seen people saying Sony only won because MS messed up at the beginning of this genIs this a joke Post?
Playstation is a much bigger brand than Nintendo in Europe. They won 2 other generations by simply putting out better Games. To top that off, the PS4 is the First time a Sony console had better hardware than the competition.
stating the percentage of install base to which an exclusive managed to sell to to argue exclusives matter very little is such a flawed argument
This is such a silly take. By this logic, 99.99% of games released and available for a system don't actually matter, and all a console needs is Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. Hell, where do you even draw the line in terms of relevant software tie ratio for a game to matter? By the very same logic, Call of Duty arguably doesn't matter either, since it only sells to between roughly 8% to 15% of the PS4's install base.
The PS4's attach ratio is 9.6. Meaning on average each PS4 user has purchased a minimum of 10 games. Think about how high that is for a console that has sold 100m systems. Exclusives matter a hell of a lot. Just as games in general do too.
This is my feeling too.
Won't be a bomb by any means, but I think lots of people here take it for granted. You see a common sentiment that they're guaranteed to blow it out of the water but with most gens that's not the case. We really need to see more before jumping to those conclusions
So the only factual metric we have if a flawed argument? And instead i should take peoples words on it that exclusives make or break a console just because they're very adamant about it?
Call of Duty sells 30 million units. Each year. Fifa probably the same. Battlefield maybe 20 million. Other than Spiderman, God of War and Uncharted theres no exclusive that sells in relevant manner.
If you look at all the games that came out so far in 2019. Devil May Cry, Division 2, Resident Evil, Sekiro, Far Cry, Anthem, and will come out, Wolfenstein, Control, and so on. Thats why people buy a console. To play the hundreds of games that come out for it, not less than 10 worthwhile games in a whole fucking generation. Thats some serious brand loyalty to actually think a handful of games from Sony weight so much that people flock in the hundred of millions to buy one.
PS4 had literally nothing for more than two years and was selling like crazy and outmatching xbox more than 2 to 1. Why? There were no exclusives worth playing. Because of this insane brand loyalty and corporate reverence Sony enjoys and because microsoft botched the reveal and was a console with poorer performance
Exclusives matter extremely little. They're only overblown on places like this. Exclusives have extremely low percentage of adoption. Game like God of War sold to like 10% of ps4's install base and thats a rare blockbuster game. Most sell less.
Microsoft needs to deliver on gaming as a whole, not exclusives. People buy consoles to play games - all games, not cherry pick 2 exclusives per year
Call of Duty sells 30 million units. Each year. Fifa probably the same. Battlefield maybe 20 million. Other than Spiderman, God of War and Uncharted theres no exclusive that sells in relevant manner.
If you look at all the games that came out so far in 2019. Devil May Cry, Division 2, Resident Evil, Sekiro, Far Cry, Anthem, and will come out, Wolfenstein, Control, and so on. Thats why people buy a console. To play the hundreds of games that come out for it, not less than 10 worthwhile games in a whole fucking generation. Thats some serious brand loyalty to actually think a handful of games from Sony weight so much that people flock in the hundred of millions to buy one.
PS4 had literally nothing for more than two years and was selling like crazy and outmatching xbox more than 2 to 1. Why? There were no exclusives worth playing. Because of this insane brand loyalty and corporate reverence Sony enjoys and because microsoft botched the reveal and was a console with poorer performance
So the only factual metric we have if a flawed argument? And instead i should take peoples words on it that exclusives make or break a console just because they're very adamant about it?
Call of Duty sells 30 million units. Each year. Fifa probably the same. Battlefield maybe 20 million. Other than Spiderman, God of War and Uncharted theres no exclusive that sells in relevant manner.
If you look at all the games that came out so far in 2019. Devil May Cry, Division 2, Resident Evil, Sekiro, Far Cry, Anthem, and will come out, Wolfenstein, Control, and so on. Thats why people buy a console. To play the hundreds of games that come out for it, not less than 10 worthwhile games in a whole fucking generation. Thats some serious brand loyalty to actually think a handful of games from Sony weight so much that people flock in the hundred of millions to buy one.
PS4 had literally nothing for more than two years and was selling like crazy and outmatching xbox more than 2 to 1. Why? There were no exclusives worth playing. Because of this insane brand loyalty and corporate reverence Sony enjoys and because microsoft botched the reveal and was a console with poorer performance
PlayStation is too big to lose. I can't see them making the kind of fuck up that would be needed for them to sink.
Hahahaha. Seems like a troll at this pointLol did anyone look at the author's newest article titled "Nintendo Switch Lite Is the Antidote We Need to Sony's Naked Cash-Grab"
This guy is going all in on the bullshit. Apparently the PS5 is a cash grab now.
599 is not the death sentence you think it is.It will be DOA because of 599 or even 499, not because of the hard-core first strategy.
I thought they've always been on top at the launches?To top that off, the PS4 is the First time a Sony console had better hardware than the competition.
399 in 2013 is 475 in 2020.so 499 in 2020 is basically same as 399 in 2013.there is a thing called inflation and present / future value of the money.It will be DOA because of 599 or even 499, not because of the hard-core first strategy.
Doesn't matter to people's psychological threshold.399 in 2013 is 475 in 2020.so 499 in 2020 is basically same as 399 in 2013.there is a thing called inflation and present / future value of the money.
I thought they've always been on top at the launches?
PS1 > Saturn. PS2 > Dreamcast. PS3 > 360, and PS4 > XB1.
It's the reason I think Scarlett will come out below PS5 unless they launch later. Sony always has some tricks up their sleeves. And they've just had some issues getting devs to understand their complex hardwares so the advantages hasn't shown until later, except with PS1 and PS4 which was pretty straight forward iirc.
Yeah but N64 and Xbox launched later. At launch I think Sony's boxes has always been the most powerful ones. And I think that will continue no matter what Phil Spencer dreams about... If Scarlett is launching later then it's another scenario, then we could see a PS4 Pro/Xbox One X difference since MS knows what they're up against. If they launch simultaneously then I simply trust Sony more to deliver on power.In the PSX Generation the N64 was actually the stronger console by Hardware. But Sony had CDs which made FMVs possible.
Next Generation the PS2 had the "strongest" console title for about one year. The Xbox was a much much better console.
While the PS3 on paper was stronger, the Cell was so difficult to work with that basically only the Sony First Party knew how to get it done. Most 3rd Party games run worse on PS3.
Yeah but N64 and Xbox launched later. At launch I think Sony's boxes has always been the most powerful ones. And I think that will continue no matter what Phil Spencer dreams about... If Scarlett is launching later then it's another scenario, then we could see a PS4 Pro/Xbox One X difference since MS knows what they're up against. If they launch simultaneously then I simply trust Sony more to deliver on power.