PlayStation Studios |OT24| All I Want For Christmas Is Shu
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Still much more important and exciting to me personally than MS bying ActiBlizz. My most awaited game.
But yeah, in the grand scheme of things, today was huge.
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Lots of copium in this Thread. Xbox is now going to be the home of all genres and Microsoft dropping 70b$ shows that Sony wasn't even a competition. Microsoft was just stalling until they decided to open up their wallets.
At least people finally admit that small studios aren't enough. There needs to be major consolidation if Sony wants to be competitive because if the only thing PS has going for it is the current FP, it straight up doesn't hold up to Bethesda/Activision/Microsoft
there was more of a chance of this happening during the PS3. Has Sony suddenly stopped selling consoles and games?
No one should be denying the impact this will have on user base and revenue, but anyone suggesting they'll be bowing out of consoles to be a third party publisher is not only premature it's ridiculous.
I think the more curious question is: If you are Sony do you let Gamepass onto your system? It solves some problems but obviously is letting the fox into the henhouse.
I mean, Sony really needs to figure out what they want their identity to be. Microsoft just bought a company half the size of Sony. There really isn't a "throw money around" solution for Sony. Buying Squeenix or Sega is possible but I don't think either of those acquisitions really changes the landscape much.
I think the "right move" for Sony is to continue to invest in first party and go for pure quality over quantity.
Either that or they are going to need to get really creative with financing and try and swallow Take Two or EA + a Sega/Ubi/Capcom/Squeenix which gets them in the neighborhood of the size of deals MS has pulled off. The problem being you are taking about Sony pulling in 50% additional market cap which likely means heavy debt financing which is extremely risky - and something that nearly took Sony down a decade ago.
I mean, Sony really needs to figure out what they want their identity to be. Microsoft just bought a company half the size of Sony. There really isn't a "throw money around" solution for Sony. Buying Squeenix or Sega is possible but I don't think either of those acquisitions really changes the landscape much.
I think the "right move" for Sony is to continue to invest in first party and go for pure quality over quantity.
Either that or they are going to need to get really creative with financing and try and swallow Take Two or EA + a Sega/Ubi/Capcom/Squeenix which gets them in the neighborhood of the size of deals MS has pulled off. The problem being you are taking about Sony pulling in 50% additional market cap which likely means heavy debt financing which is extremely risky - and something that nearly took Sony down a decade ago.
MS just spent half of that "today".
And Take Two just bought someone who made up like 2/3rd of their market cap. Not impossible.
Sony has plenty of cash, stock options, and they can get loans.
They do? Forgive me I don't use Twitter so I haven't seen any takes from journalists yet :D
Why would they do this? Patriotism?
If anything an Xbox that is back on top like the 360 will force more Japanese studios to support it. Unless you mean Sony will buy more Japanesr studios.
Exactly! Speaking as a shareholder of Sony it's deeply concerning to know that Microsoft are buying up everyone in the video game space. Sony could theoretically buy up a few smaller publishers Capcom, Square, Ubisoft, Sega and this will give them quite a lot of IP to work with.
I've said it before but if Sony lose Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider or even any of the Sega franchises (Yakuza, Persona) they're in deep trouble in terms of losing what I'd like to call the 'Casual Gamers' the ones who aren't really into Sony 1st Party but have the console for all the 3rd Party support.
My girlfriend for instance has a PS5, the only 1st Party game she's played is God of War. The rest are Valhalla, Far Cry 6, FIFA 21, Call of Duty, GTA. If any of them games were exclusive to Xbox she'd be forced to buy one.
Sony really need to knuckle down and be smart here otherwise they'll be left in the dust. People think we're over reacting but its true. if Microsoft keeps buying up all these publishers/developers PlayStation ultimately loses a lot of third party support.. without this support they WILL lose console sales. This will lead to there being less exclusives from studios like Marvel and so on.
Well nevermind then. I knew they got Psyonix but didn't know they got them as well.
What's stopping MS from just bidding higher?
Welp, look on the bright side...
- we'll be getting to the next OT at record pace!
- the next time I bring up Sony buying Capcom or Square no one will ever be able to say "gross" to me with a straight face
- some of these doom and gloom hot takes have me laughing my ass off, thanks for that.
- we'll be getting to the next OT at record pace!
- the next time I bring up Sony buying Capcom or Square no one will ever be able to say "gross" to me with a straight face
- some of these doom and gloom hot takes have me laughing my ass off, thanks for that.
The issue isnt about the games you or I or a niche enthusiast forum like us like. We aren't the massive number of people that buy CoD yearly. While it does not affect us now, it has long lasting effects on the industry but also on the playstation whether you like to admit it or not
Atleast who I follow on Twitter. It seems like everybody is kind of like "wtf."
Sony is asleep on this front. I can understand they can only do so much so fast but they have to make some bold moves and a big acquisition or two this year.
Yeah I'm done with this thread for a while. Way too much hyperbole being spoken in here. Probably will be done in the gaming threads too. Can't believe people are actually celebrating this news.
Im not denying that. There are also people that primarily play Fortnite and various other games as well. Many are acting like Sony has nothing to offer which isn't true at all.
I mean the "competition" at this point is a race to see who can buy more studios.
Doesn't sound too exciting to me.
Well this is all very exciting. Can't wait to see how things turn out in the indusn by the end of this gen.
I think Sony will continue to focus on raising the value of their own IP, including brand new ones, and try to bring those to a point where they can compete with more established gaming IP.
The first big test will be if/when an Xbox exclusive CoD is released.
I think Sony will continue to focus on raising the value of their own IP, including brand new ones, and try to bring those to a point where they can compete with more established gaming IP.
The first big test will be if/when an Xbox exclusive CoD is released.
Wow, thanks for this enlightening post. You've really contributed to the conversation.
GTA online still makes a ton of money and has a ton of potential to become a massive game from GTA 6's launch
It's a social world/2nd life sim for its hardcore players. MS would be foolish to pass up on Take 2 and acquire GTA.
Respectfully, Killzone sucks. There's zero mass market appeal for it. It's just never going to be a thing. Sony would be really dumb to try and make Killzone happen after failing to make it happen for 4 games now. Killzone 2 was their best shot and it is outdated af now.
SOCOM has great appeal. Games like Siege prove that fans want and love strategic slow paced shooters. SOCOM can work. Resistance can maybe work, but I think the monster design turns a lot of people off. They had a great co-op game but never capitalized on it.
MAG can work. But I think Sony will be stuck chasing the trends-- shitty hero shooters like Battlefield, massive big multiplayer games to sell "epicness" and "scale"...
What COD does well is the fast paced smaller scaled MP games where your individual action matters the most. but Warzone has really changed COD.
Im still hoping LOU MP turns out to be a massive hit.
there's some people posting in good faith but there is a lot of drive-bys and trolling
Ain't that some shit.
If MS goes after T2, then the North American market is pretty much gone for PS, and the European ones on shaky ground.
Luckily, Japan still publishes all the big hitter on PS, despite Nintendo dominating there for years.
Still, this is grim, lol
If MS goes after T2, then the North American market is pretty much gone for PS, and the European ones on shaky ground.
Luckily, Japan still publishes all the big hitter on PS, despite Nintendo dominating there for years.
Still, this is grim, lol
You got it JuanLatino ! SE purchase is to plug a hole, not to counter MS. T2 is the counter play for GTA's as a Mutually Assured Destruction play.
This is the hot takes I come to Era to hear! hehe...
And they still have 40B-50B (taking in account prior acquisitions like Bethesda)
I don't know how it would work out with Konami's other less useful divisions but god Metal Gear and Castlevania just sitting out there completely un-utilized is so crazy.
Same. I mean, Bethesda was big, but Beth was selling due to lack of sales with their titles. They wanted to be owned by a platform holder, and they had a long history with MS.
This is what people feared; MS just deciding to buy the entire industry.
I think the point I'm making is that Xbox also has Fortnite. So the problem becomes do I(the general public) buy the platform that has Fortnite and Call of Duty or just Fortnite. One immediately becomes the weaker offer.
Cause the ONLY game/thing online that can really to compete with COD is GTA VI gargantuan online?
And I repeat, for my taste I would prefer the second group.
But since this capitalist war is not about me or you...
I don't care for Jim but he can't compete when it comes to these purchases straight up. But he needs to convince Sony about buying other publishers now. Straight up
Yeah....I no like this.... :( . I guess I get COD "free" with Game Pass, but still....not really liking this.
Why do people say Sony can't afford it to make large acquisitions. Sony could easily make a deal with stocks/cash/debt to make a few acquisitions. Disney couldn't even buy Fox outright. The 70+ billion was raised in cash/stock. Disney is operating on a debt of about 40 billion. If it's deemed financially viable, a company will take on necessary debt.
Sony isn't dead by any means. The just have to circle the wagons and look at their long term str
30 days to go. Can't wait!
30 days to go. Can't wait!
This was probably not your intention but "Jap" is a slur for Japanese people so you might want to edit your post lol
I hope this isn't seen as platform warring or trolling because I'm invested in the Playstation ecosystem and I value their first party games but the only hardware manufacturer whose 1st party games qualify as their "bread and butter" are Nintendo. Sony's first party studios are healthy, diverse and productive but despite similar hardware sales they can't touch the sales of Nintendo games. That's not to say that Sony can't get or shouldn't get there at some point, but as ridiculous as it sounds they need a full row of 25-30 million unit selling franchises like Nintendo. As I said, I believe they can get there and they are currently on the path to get there with games like Spider-Man, The Last of Us and God of War but they need more of those kind of franchises and the ones they have need to sell even better.
I'm also not subscribing to the "Sony is doomed" takes out there by the way but this aquisition has the potential to damage Sony's position in the marketplace because Playstation has become the home of Call of Duty during the PS4 generation and that played a huge role in extending Playstation's lead in Europe and outselling Xbox in English speaking countries. On the other hand, Playstation becoming the home of Call of Duty was a reaction to strong Playstation sales (and money hats of course) so who knows what unlikely partnerships PS5's early sales lead brings to the table.
LOL
I know the feeling since we had some hyping yesterday and that´s not what anyone expected. Literally violent Tuesday lol
But in the end there is no point to not be excited about it.
For me, today, it´s best to be excited for a game coming in 30 days than to be excited for a multibillionaire deal company that won´t change shit for months : )
I mean PS being more than a console was always the plan IMO , just Sony not willing to lose money to get it there faster in certain aspects .
We know it's the same for MS and there buying companies \IP and taking the lost for there gaming section to become service faster .
Well the "bright" side is that no one will be able to compete with MS should subscription become the norm. All the publishers left out there will still need to rely on MS if subscriptions become the dominant model. Nearly the whole industry will be relying on MS lol
I have been saying for years that Sony should divest SPE and double down on Gaming and NS. I have suggested everything from SE to Activision as sales target. MS is not playing around and I feel very confident ATVI is not their last big purchase. IMO SE and Capcom is thinking small. Sony should be targeting EA or TTWO.
Undoubtedly, there are implications and variables that can be proposed for days. I was just thinking out loud about a Sony counterattack, which will probably happen, but something tells me it won't please me much as a gamer hehe
I didn't underestimate nor complain when they bought support studios.
But seriously, just like what I post earlier, seeing this in PR point of view was like
BETHESDA & ACTIVISION-BLIZZARD
against
Nixxes & Valkyrie
too much of a difference.
Maybe it would be good for SONY maybe sure, but sure as shit not us.
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