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PlayStation Studios PC ports sales figures for Steam have leaked
- Thread starter Red Kong XIX
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Yeah, my point was more that they still want to keep the window (especially with their big titles) to keep up the perceived value of the PS5 so it hasn't really been that long. I expect they probably also only want to release one of these ports every quarter or so they don't cannibalize each other.
That's why they should port the Remastered Trilogy and not the PS3 originals. Iirc some stuff was improved compared to the originals.
I would have bought the games a third time, kinda sad these are probably never coming to PC.
Regarding Sony's PC initiative:
I stopped buying their games on PS5, I prefer playing them on PC. If a game gets ported, great, if not, I just play something else.
Yea, pretty much. Recently, I got FFVII Remake Intergrade for $20ish on PS5 whereas it's still $40ish on PC and it'll be the same for XVI. I'm sure this applies to any PS5 exclusive with a late PC port.
Oh, I totally accepted your point. I'm just following their damn slow movement because I don't have a PS5 and don't really wanna buy it on PS4.
Sackboy was just dropped onto Steam one day, with no fanfare. I'm more interested in how much they expected to sell on PC, because I don't think it did that well on the original console either? It's a great game, but as others have already said, late port, full price, technical issues, etc.
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If Sony wants blockbuster sales on PC they'll have to bite the bullet and do simultaneous releases or at the very least reduce the gap to six months or so. You can't sell millions of copies day one without the full power of marketing that comes with a simultaneous release. I'm sure Sony is happy making lots of extra money with minimal effort but they are (knowingly) leaving a lot of money on the table.
I think that GoT has to be in the pipeline sooner than later. A two-year or shorter window from console launch to PC release is becoming the standard for these ports. From what I can collect, there does not seem to be a definitive pattern, but about two years is the average.
The first batch of releases took the longest to appear on PC, while Naughty Dog's PS5 output has been ported more expeditiously. I think The Last of Us Part II Remastered will follow the PS5 version in a timely manner.
| Game | Time Between PS4/PS5 to PC |
|---|---|
| Horizon Zero Dawn | 42 Months (2/28/17 to 8/7/20) |
| Days Gone | 25 Months (4/26/19 to 5/18/21) |
| God of War | 45 Months (4/20/18 to 1/14/22) |
| Spider-Man Remastered | 21 Months (11/12/20 to 8/12/22) |
| Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection | 9 Months (1/28/22 to 10/19/22) |
| Sackboy: A Big Adventure | 23 Months (11/12/20 to 10/27/22) |
| Spider-Man: Miles Morales | 24 Months (11/12/20 to 11/18/22) |
| Returnal | 22 Months (4/30/21 to 2/15/23) |
| The Last of Us Part I | 6 Months (9/2/22 to 3/28/23) |
| Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart | 25 Months (6/11/21 to 7/26/23) |
| Helldivers II | Day-and-Date (2/8/24) |
| Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition | TBD (10/6/23 to TBD 2024) |
Honestly with how many games come out small or large, the hype cycle for games is pretty decreased. I bet they could double sales with a. Three month window or less without halving PS5 sales lol
It seems to be basically this.
If it's a fully new Single-Player game? 2 Years roughly, give or take a month or two in either direction.
If it's a Remaster/Remake? Generally less than a year.
If it's a GAAS? Day and Date on PC.
Basically every game they've released on PC is far more taxing than it should be. See Spider-Man and Returnal
Zero dawn did benefit from being the first. I will be interested in how Forbidden West does in comparison. Also ZD was discounted and I don't expect FW to be.
I think 6 months would be optimal. The people moved by the hype cycle will not tolerate a six month wait, but the PC release would still benefit from the hype fumes.
HZD and Uncharted were both really poor ports and took a long time to fix.
I thought six months too but then the last of us bombed. I think if Sony doesn't want to waste their time any longer, they should do less than six months.
The hold up with Bloodborne is because Sony doesnt want to do it. Fromsoft would not be involved because they have better things to be doing.
I mean that doesn't count in my mind because ultimately it was a 10 year old game. I mean six months on new games, not ancient ones.
Last of us bombed because it was a trash ass port that received zero marketing.
OK, fair enough. I think six months would help a lot, at this point they are literally just throwing money into a fire by releasing games two years late or more.
Now we're talking. Probably still more likely than Bloodborne somehow.
That is also my takeaway from it. It's not a consistent template, à la Microsoft's day-and-date practice for every game, but we did receive confirmation from Sony that the GaaS titles will be simultaneous launches. I had erroneously assumed this was already the case with the first Helldivers, but I just learned that even that did not find a home on PC until nine months after the PS4 version.
Returnal has been smooth sailing for me, but I am also playing on a PC with a 4090. Meanwhile, Spider-Man has been the buggiest port I have tried to push myself through so far. I think I have encountered at least a dozen crashes to the desktop in my 58 hours of playtime. Horizon Zero Dawn would occasionally exhibit prolonged frame drops and apparent memory leaks, but never outright crash on me.
I am interested to see how often PC is mentioned in the presumed imminent advertising for Helldivers II.
These ports are profitable with less than 100K units sold, it's quite literally not throwing money into the fire :P
They won't, they know that full subscription focus is unsustainable for their too expensive games. Exclusive console releases and PC ports will continue.
Pretty poor numbers. I think the takeaway, for me, is that when Horizon Zero Dawn and Days Gone came out, there was seemingly a "novelty" for PlayStation games on PC. I'm not sure that exists anymore, and the sharp decline for stuff like Miles Morales and Uncharted demonstrates it.
If they didn't bother with a PS4 port what makes you think we'll get it on PC.
What the fuck is going on there?
I could understand Sackboy underperforming (people don't know a good thing when they see it), ditto with Uncharted since the first three entries aren't available on PC at all, plus Horizon selling well since it was the first to market, but Days Gone performing that well and Miles Morales that poorly is baffling.
I could understand Sackboy underperforming (people don't know a good thing when they see it), ditto with Uncharted since the first three entries aren't available on PC at all, plus Horizon selling well since it was the first to market, but Days Gone performing that well and Miles Morales that poorly is baffling.
miles morales is a 6 hour game they wanted 50 dollars for. pc gamers are cheap and thats bad value not to mention it was already 20 on ps5 by that point
Yes they are throwing money away. There's no way these IPs only have this much sales potential on such a massive platform
Some of the ports had technical issues at launch and also popped up with a £40-£50 price tag. Or more if there was a deluxe version.
Minor or major issues (TLOU) along with a £50- 60 tag isn't going to do wonders on PC store fronts. Especially if sone games are 3 or more years old at that point.
I wonder how many just bought them from somewhere like Cdkeys at 2/3 the price.
Minor or major issues (TLOU) along with a £50- 60 tag isn't going to do wonders on PC store fronts. Especially if sone games are 3 or more years old at that point.
I wonder how many just bought them from somewhere like Cdkeys at 2/3 the price.
I'd attribute a chunk of those sales to the novelty of seeing a Sony game being ported to Steam, tbh. Maybe a big initial push to show Sony there was demand for their games on PC. I expect a big decline with Forbidden West.
Steam users seemingly had a taste of what Sony had to offer and decided it wasn't up to snuff, for a variety of reasons, including technical, price, and timing.
My guess is they are also accounting for potentially forcing PC players to grab their consoles (especially if they withhold sequels) thus opening up the way for more profit, I don't think their analysts are dumb and this is something they likely have spent a lot of time thinking about.
I wonder if COVID had an (unfortunately) positive impact on the initial PC ports? We've heard before that consumer spending across the entire industry was on the uptick during those times.
Analysts are not omnipotent and companies are more likely to stick with previous strategies than mixing it up. I think it's fairly obvious their fear of cannibalizing console sales is costing them massive sales. I think it's fairly obvious at this point that successful console and PC SKUs exist side by side these days. A lot of PC people aren't looking at consoles while many console people are not looking at PC
The prices for these late ports need to be impulse buy territory or close to it in relation to initial release window. PC people are living their best life playing their own games and are not gonna get their head turned by super late ports especially as they don't have the marketing blitz behind them and, in worst case scenario, the quality of the game or reputation is a known quantity and the full price release is an even tougher sell.
You may be right but I think you're seriously underestimating how willing a PC player is to get a console for a couple of games. The "PC player grabbing a PS4 for Bloodborne" thing is not a meme, a lot of people do it. It just hasn't happened with the PS5 yet because honestly there is no game on that level that makes it worth the hassle, but most PC players can tolerate a console UI and the price is not a barrier given they already spend a lot on hardware.
They'll get one for GTA VI. That's a zeitgeist everyone will want to be a part of day one.