I'd wait for more details before pre-ordering.
Well what did you guys expect. They are launching a subscription based online service, so yes of course there biggest selling game this year is going to be part of it.
I though Serebii had reported otherwise? What was unclear that needed to be re-clarified?
Just to clarify, that wasn't baseless. Of course, once we knew it had online after all, the default thought would be that it would use the Switch's paid online service. That only makes sense of course. The confusion came in because they themselves said otherwise before this and the fact that they said otherwise is what prompted this question from Famitsu itself apparently. In other words, itt was because they're own Q&A on the official site suggested otherwise. See:Nah we had reporting suggesting that yesterday:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-pokemon-let’s-go-2019-info-facebook-post.46031/
Didn't stop anyone from baselessly claiming the games online play wouldn't require subscription. Serebii was backing it up and people were trashing anyone suggesting otherwise.
Just to clarify, that wasn't baseless. Of course, once we knew it had online after all, the default thought would be that it would use the Switch's paid online service. That only makes sense of course. The confusion came in because they themselves said otherwise before this and the fact that they said otherwise is what prompted this question from Famitsu itself apparently. In other words, itt was because they're own Q&A on the official site suggested otherwise. See:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pokémon-lets-go-pikachu-eevees-online-service-requires-nintendo-switch-online-subscription.46143/#post-8600256
That most certainly wasn't baseless and initial mistranslation issues aside, TPCi can really only blame themselves for the bad messaging/mixed issues/people being confused here because that's all on them due to not being able to keep their story straight.
for casuals
requires a $300 console + $60 game + $20 online subscription
As if. It'll do well enough simply for having Pokémon in its title.Plus optional 50€ controller that kids will scream for and that is literally a stick and a button on a plastic ball. Seriously. I predict this game to be hot... in the pre-owned bins of game stores.
No gts, no wonder trade, no battle spot, no ranked battleLol what are they even going to have for "online"??? How hard is this?
No gts, no wonder trade, no battle spot, no ranked battle
Only trading and standard battling
Riveting stuff, Diamond and Pearl is rolling in its grave
What a fucking shit show. The people defending this crap disgust meNo gts, no wonder trade, no battle spot, no ranked battle
Only trading and standard battling
Riveting stuff, Diamond and Pearl is rolling in its grave
Still all worth it to escape the 3DS to me.So, the game costs 20$ more than previous entries, has a 20$ paywall and offers even less options for online than 3DS games with free online. Good deal.
Honestly I'm surprised by how many people are "blown away" by this on what I would consider one of the webs most hardcore gaming communities.
Wouldnt it be the same for any other console except change the 20 to a $60 for xbl/psn (hell increase the cost more if they're getting the pro/X system for that $300) Paying for online sucks but Nintendo was going to do it at one point and it'd be stupid for them to not have pokemon under that plan.for casuals
requires a $300 console + $60 game + $20 online subscription
I can't think of any game Sony or Microsoft released to try and convert their free to play mobile audience thoughWouldnt it be the same for any other console except change the 20 to a $60 (hell more if they're getting the pro/X system)
As if. It'll do well enough simply for having Pokémon in its title.
This "convert mobile players" is a thing that ~never~ works. There isn't a single game I can think of that was a big mobile game, went console and had similar success. Games like Puzzle & Dragons and Monster Strike tried exactly this and failed.I can't think of any game Sony or Microsoft released to try and convert their free to play mobile audience though
Doomed.Selling well has never been mutually exclusive with filling the pre-owned bins by the truckload. It's not the first time we've seen it happening with other franchises that went sour despite their marketing budget.
Edit: the key of these games is retention, as they're trying to attract a very specific demographic that was not there before. However everything in this game screams the opposite since the featurelist is extremely thin, the potential post-game activities seem scarce and the online multiplayer retention appears to be nearly zero since the Pokédex can be filled very quickly and the unranked battles become stale after facing the same set of 10 pokémon for the 30th time with everybody and their grandma using Mewtwo. I see these games selling well. I also see all their target demographic not even giving a fuck for more next year.
This "convert mobile players" is a thing that ~never~ works. There isn't a single game I can think of that was a big mobile game, went console and had similar success. Games like Puzzle & Dragons and Monster Strike tried exactly this and failed.
Mobile players are very sensitive to pricing - just see how F2P games destroy premium mobile games. 380$ to just start a game won't convert any group en mass.
Even the smallest nothing game with online is going to require the service. This game was never thought to be f2p so why would anyone even think it wasnt. Nintendo might not even let f2p games off the hook.Well what did you guys expect. They are launching a subscription based online service, so yes of course there biggest selling game this year is going to be part of it.
I don't understand why people are shocked. You need PSN or Xbox Live to do ANYTHING online in ANY and EVERY game. It'll be the same on Nintendo otherwise why would they bother.
I may be a bit out of the loop here, but am I missing something? The title of the thread sounds like "Halo's online service requires Xbox Live". I don't really see why it's a big deal at all
Why would it cost less than $60? Mainline Pokémon games have always been full price on previous hardware, and you even have cases like HG/SS that wound up being a bit more expensive than that.So, the game costs 20$ more than previous entries, has a 20$ paywall and offers even less options for online than 3DS games with free online. Good deal.
What a fucking shit show. The people defending this crap disgust me
I wonder if it'll support cloud saves or just force you to use Pokébank?
Why would it cost less than $60? Mainline Pokémon games have always been full price on previous hardware, and you even have cases like HG/SS that wound up being a bit more expensive than that.