Some times...but like that Smash one had inkling as one of the reveals which we already knew
nah
Pokémon Main Series and Spinoff Rumors, Leaks, Speculation and Discussion Thread (SPOILERS)
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What did he get wrong other than tera forms, which were apparently an april fools joke
The PK Hex-like feature is a big one, considering how much of a fiasco getting optimal legendary Pokemon has been this generation with a lot of VGC and recent BSS teams wanting Speed IVs between 0 and 31 rather than 31 or 0. The rise of Charm Flutter Mane in the past year for Battle Stadium Singles actually made low Special Attack IVs important for some mons too (Choice Band Chien-Pao being the most notable with it wanting a 0-1 SpA IV so Tera Blast doesn't flip to Special after getting hit by Flutter Mane's Charm). IVs being annoying when you want below 31 has always been a thing but its just much worse now when getting stuff like an optimal Landorus is much better on hardware that came out a decade ago, rather than the very painful ways to get said Landorus on the Switch games / Pokemon Go with optimal stats.
So yeah the PK Hex-like feature being a bust was a real bummer!
I assume some people like colosseum more than the others, I've seen that sentiment a few times, same for mystery dungeon and Pokémon go. As for it being too soon, I mean in relation to gen 5 mostly, unless they pull an arceus, I don't feel like we're getting any remakes for them this decade.
Yeah, I'm hoping this was delayed into a future mainline title, because it's well-past needed at this point. Hell, breeding my team of freaks for this upcoming tournament is still annoying and I'm not even using any legendaries lol.
Still nothing in comparison to what it used to be!
Typically fake ones attach some kind of background story or "personality" to them. Real leaks are usually just info dumps where the person straight gives the info they know and dips.
The Pokémon BDSP remakes were released 15 years after the launch of Diamond & Pearl. The theoretical Pokémon Black & White remakes this holiday season would be releasing 14 years after the launch of Black & White.
For comparison, FireRed & LeafGreen were released eight years after the launch of Red & Green, HeartGold & SoulSilver were released ten years after the launch of Gold & Silver, and Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire were released twelve years after Ruby & Sapphire.
I realize that one way to look at this is that the gap between a gen and its remake has been increasing over time. But waiting until 2030 (or longer!) to remake Black & White would be a pretty significant lengthening, and I'm just not sure why we'd expect that now that TPC is clearly willing to outsource remakes. 20+ years is a long time.
I'd actually expect Pokémon X&Y remakes before the end of this decade, in 2028 or so.
Three different ways for me:
Something utterly absurd is mentioned: like with the Let's Go Wooper and Togepi. That immediately got a red flag for me because out of all the Pokémon to choose to represent Johto, they choose Wooper?
Something is too good to be true: the leak mentions something along the lines of 'all Pokémon are catchable' or 'you can set difficulty at the start.' Things that it seems like GameFreak would be hard pressed to do.
Something that sounds super fanfic/edgelord: when they try to tie it way to close to specific dark lore aspects or an anime focus. I've seen some 'leaks' in the past that mentioned stuff like a character gets sacrificed in a volcano or other absurd stuff. I don't think they will ever have you come across Ash in a Game Freak game.
There have been a lot of insane leaks in the past that are easy to see that it's clearly bullshit. Granted I'm sure I wouldn't have entirely believed that Let's Go leak. I think mostly because of the peripheral and Pokemon Go mechanics.
we never know the real ones are real until after game announcement/first major trailer where something is revealed that was mentioned in some random 4chan posts from months ago lmao.
God I remember the night before our first big gameplay trailer for Sw/Sh there was that 4chan leak talking about gigatamax. It's that type of stuff you just kinda figure is real because giant pokemon as a gimmick is exactly the kind of weird silliness gamefreak would do.
Now that I think about it, we haven't really had major obvious leaks prior to main-series game announcements, historically, have we? The only things that come to mind are the LGPE leaks, and the amount of poketubers insisting that the gen 8 region would be the UK months before the game got announced.
There were trademark leaks iirc for Sun/Moon but that was in between the initial announcement and starter reveal. And there was that PLA leak but I don't know if I really count that because it happened like a few hours before the presents went live.
These are the funniest leaks to me. I'm not going digging for links right now, but I vividly recall Gen 7/8/9 all having LENGTHY 4chan posts that quite literally outlined the entire game months before release and they just kind of got buried under all the other fake stuff until the games actually came out and someone who had saved them said "Hey look, this guy leaked the entire game 8 months ago".
...which is probably why people still pay any attention to 4chan leaks. 99.9% of them are fake but history has proven that there's always a real, substantial leak buried in that mess somewhere.
That's fair. Please be a part of us and root for a new Pokemon Ranger! :D
To me that's what makes them absolutely worthless. Why isn't there some other consistent method people can use to leak information without having to shovel thru mountains of trash?
I hate to inform you of this—and it hurts me to even type it, honestly—but those games are now considered retro. The prices are outta control nowadays, unfortunately.
I know, my back aches too…
It's so upsetting lol like there's no way in hell I'm paying $135 for a DS game
You ain't even have to say this for real. Like hurting ppl feelings? Fuck😒😞
That's just it though, expecting them to release gen 5 remakes when they almost didn't even green light bdsp (original plan was only arceus.) tells me gen 5 getting a remake is anything but certain.
BDSP selling over 15 million copies tells me that it probably is.
Yep, all that matters now. These massive sales literally just put TPC/GF in cruise control.
Sales aren't everything, I think it's fair to say they don't want to go that route anymore creatively at least, so I certainly wouldn't want them to if that's the case.
It's interesting how there's basically two tiers of mainline Pokemon games, and the sales reflect that.
Tier 1 is the "new gen" game:
SWSH - 26.17m
SV - 24.36m
Tier 2 is the remake/experimental game, which is basically a guaranteed 15 million in sales:
PLA - 14.83m
BDSP - 15.06m
LGPLGE - 15.07m
the "real" game is gonna sell an extra 10 million copies, but the Tier 2 games are still a guaranteed 15 million (aka a number anyone in the entire industry would kill for even once), even if it's a mediocre remake with stupid pokemon go controls tacked on, or not even made by game freak at all!
Tier 1 is the "new gen" game:
SWSH - 26.17m
SV - 24.36m
Tier 2 is the remake/experimental game, which is basically a guaranteed 15 million in sales:
PLA - 14.83m
BDSP - 15.06m
LGPLGE - 15.07m
the "real" game is gonna sell an extra 10 million copies, but the Tier 2 games are still a guaranteed 15 million (aka a number anyone in the entire industry would kill for even once), even if it's a mediocre remake with stupid pokemon go controls tacked on, or not even made by game freak at all!
No leaks at all in essence. Some of the most vague things you can imagine posted by Khu. That's it....and a trillion 4chan "leaks".
The only reliable leak this go round is to wait until Tuesday lol
The New Gen. Games also get a longer support cycle with paid DLC in the following year instead of a third version.
If they released S/V in 2023 and brought a big Legends DLC in the End of 2022 instead of immediately killing it, Legends would probably sold more than its almost 15 Million.
probably, but it would not have come close to the higher tier at all. I think the new gen games are just unassailable sales wise
The biggest surprise of Pokemon Day: Gen 5 remakes are skipped and we get Pokemon Z.
In all seriousness though, I think Johto is already too small of a region to get split. Also no mention of Celebi? Are we Isekai'd again? Who brought the foreign starters into Johto, Laventon again?
In all seriousness though, I think Johto is already too small of a region to get split. Also no mention of Celebi? Are we Isekai'd again? Who brought the foreign starters into Johto, Laventon again?
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I checked out at the Water/Fire regional Gyarados lol. Not that I suspect that any of this was ever real to begin with.New 4chan "leak"
Someday we'll find out what happened to Surge on the battlefield.
Someday...
...and no Unova? GameFreak better not even think about leave us gen fivers empty handed.New 4chan "leak"
Who says Game Freak is doing either? ;)
I wouldn't be surprised if, as far as Pokémon is concerned, Game Freak is all-in on releasing new generations and their DLC. That's already a huge undertaking, and it's only going to become a larger one on future hardware.
Remember, patterns only exist because fans think they do.
They only did ORAS because they saw fan desire for it. They've confirmed that.. Plus, my view is they only commissioned BDSP out of fear of backlash of their Sinnoh game being Legends after the Dexit nonsense (it was commissioned in March 2020)
They only did ORAS because they saw fan desire for it. They've confirmed that.. Plus, my view is they only commissioned BDSP out of fear of backlash of their Sinnoh game being Legends after the Dexit nonsense (it was commissioned in March 2020)
For me the dream would be a rather faithful gen 5 remake and a Gen 5 experimental game, just like gen 4 but with better visuals for each, especially the remake.
At the same time that would be the second time gen 5 games come out at the very end of a system life so it might impact its sales again. But that would be part of the gen legacy and mythology I guess lol
At the same time that would be the second time gen 5 games come out at the very end of a system life so it might impact its sales again. But that would be part of the gen legacy and mythology I guess lol
As far as fake leaks go, I at least would find a game like this interesting.New 4chan "leak"
Also, GameFreak probably still needs to do games other than new generations because they like revisiting past regions with new stuff, and they couldn't really outsource that unless they were willing to just send a few people to work on purely the creative side. Just feels like something they want full control over.
Would you have said the concept of Legends was cool before it was revealed?
Yep
I see it all the time. People insist everything is a hint, then the clout goblins jump on it and push it, then when it doesn't happen, people rage...usually at TPC
I always bring up the 2020 New Years stream from the ISS as a prime example of it. It was just a cool thing TPC was doing in collaboration with the Japanese Space Agency. People and youtubers decided because Space = Palkia (not realising Palkia is dimensional space and not outer space), that they were going to reveal DP remakes in that livestream, even though TPC wasn't even hosting it, just one of many sponsors with segments in the annual stream. People even blamed me for it
Yeah I am part of the problem lol. I have convinced myself something gen 5 related is happening with 0 evidence except some recurring internet discourse and will be disappointed when it doesn't happen... while that's 100% on me
You made me realize it is possible Game Freak might announce that a new Legends mainline game has just started development.
It's the same as with Zelda, if it sounds edgy as fuck, is fake.
I don't know many variations of "Breath of the Darkness" I have read.
