I'd score pretty much every one of those games differently, and we all know damn well soul silver should be in the 90's
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Pokémon Sword and Shield | Review Thread (READ STAFF POST)
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I'd score pretty much every one of those games differently, and we all know damn well soul silver should be in the 90's
Expected, and disappointing, shallow reviews all over the place.
We allknew this would be the case.
We allknew this would be the case.
Blasphemy! I actually held this opinion when I played ORAS until I replayed Emerald. Probably one of my favourite regions
There's no too much difference in content between the positive and negative reviews. It's all coming down to emphasis.
I think the general consensus is that it's good, but it's not enough.
I'm just so genuinely confused at the development process here. After they revealed Let's Go, they announced that a new "mainline hardcore RPG" was in the works, but it seems like these games are more reminiscent of Let's Go than anything.
Since 2012, we've had a Pokemon game every year except 2015. This was the first CONSOLE game in the mainline series, so naturally, we'd have higher standards. It seems like SwSh definitely needed more time in the oven in order to meet fan expectations. Nintendo was willing to delay Animal Crossing to 2020 because they were concerned about crunch and polishing the game, but it's too bad they couldn't do that for Pokemon
I'm just so genuinely confused at the development process here. After they revealed Let's Go, they announced that a new "mainline hardcore RPG" was in the works, but it seems like these games are more reminiscent of Let's Go than anything.
Since 2012, we've had a Pokemon game every year except 2015. This was the first CONSOLE game in the mainline series, so naturally, we'd have higher standards. It seems like SwSh definitely needed more time in the oven in order to meet fan expectations. Nintendo was willing to delay Animal Crossing to 2020 because they were concerned about crunch and polishing the game, but it's too bad they couldn't do that for Pokemon
what is wrong with you people.
I loved the gameplay in Mystery Dungeon games(besides gates), the dungeon diving, figuring out how to best combine moves, seeds, orbs and later wands.
Like people always want challenge from Pokemon, and the Zero-Isles were as far as i know the hardest any pokemon game ever got.
So? as expected, a very good game with a lot of heart and charm.
Sure, the game made some decisions that deserved criticism, but people took things too far, lied a lie to themselves that this is a trash game, and believed their own-made fiction and started to push their narratives on every single piece of info, no they even made issues out of nothing (like the night/day cycle they imagined).
I've seen this many times before:
- Donky Kong Tropical Freeze: another DK ?! why not Metroid? why not AAA GAME BY THE AMERICAN STUDIO RETRO TO SHOW OFF THE WIIU HARDWARE?
and it turned out that Tropical Freeze is probably the best 2D platforming game ever made.
- Mario 3D World: a 3DS game! creative bankruptcy! those people should look at Sonic Lost World and learn!
in the end? the game was insanely creative, and many fans consider it to be the best 3D Mario ever made.
If a game doesn't have THE BEST AND MOST REALISTIC GRAPHICSSSS ever, then it surely is bad and a low effort!
Don't misunderstand me, there is a discussion to be had about Pokemon Sword and Shield and GF decisions, but i hope the that will be more rational now, without trashing what seems like a good and polished game that is full of heart and charm all the time.
Sure, the game made some decisions that deserved criticism, but people took things too far, lied a lie to themselves that this is a trash game, and believed their own-made fiction and started to push their narratives on every single piece of info, no they even made issues out of nothing (like the night/day cycle they imagined).
I've seen this many times before:
- Donky Kong Tropical Freeze: another DK ?! why not Metroid? why not AAA GAME BY THE AMERICAN STUDIO RETRO TO SHOW OFF THE WIIU HARDWARE?
and it turned out that Tropical Freeze is probably the best 2D platforming game ever made.
- Mario 3D World: a 3DS game! creative bankruptcy! those people should look at Sonic Lost World and learn!
in the end? the game was insanely creative, and many fans consider it to be the best 3D Mario ever made.
If a game doesn't have THE BEST AND MOST REALISTIC GRAPHICSSSS ever, then it surely is bad and a low effort!
Don't misunderstand me, there is a discussion to be had about Pokemon Sword and Shield and GF decisions, but i hope the that will be more rational now, without trashing what seems like a good and polished game that is full of heart and charm all the time.
This was about a decade ago when roguelikes were barely in the public consciousness and got reviewed harsher as a result.
It matters how and what. Trimming fat can be a good thing. If there are specific features that were cut, that if included would make it a better game, go ahead and make your case. Note, I said a better game, not the game you personally want.
So much of the criticism of new games of well established series is long time fans criticizing what a game isn't, instead of what it is.
People don't know anything about Pokemon games
Ugh. I still don't get that to be honest, I mean Mystery Dungeon is a series with a lot of history behind it beyond Pokemon. It's beloved stuff *for* its gameplay.
It's not as accessible as mainline Pokemon so on a personal level it's of course fine if it isn't your cup of tea, that's to be expected, but the way MD has been completely dismissed in the past will never sit right with me. At least the most recent Shiren game was received positively.
Regardless if you think these are great scores or not, it is still the lowest scored mainline game by a decent amount. 80 is about the bare minimum I'd expect a Pokemon game to get regardless of its quality.
My hope is it's still enough to get Gamefreak's attention
Emerald deserves a 90. ORAS is a 65. This is the only correct opinion.
Didn't the guy you quoted saif it is down from 86/87 to 80? Could be also either 6 or 7. Stick to the facts. ;)
Come on, no need to be upset I'm just messing around with you. Damn, it's just a game and tbh I don't care about those numbers. I will get the game mainly for my son to play it and I know he will enjoy it.
They say Jesus was hated because he tried to tell people the truth.
Actually, for the review thread it was more
WHAT THE FUCK GAMESPOT HOW DARE YOU GIVE TROPICAL FREEZE THE BEST 2D PLATFORMER EVER A 6 OUT OF 10
Let's group them
New gen
Y - 88
X - 87
Sun - 87
Moon - 87
Black - 87
White - 87
Diamond - 85
Pearl - 85
Ruby - 82
Sword - 81
Shield - 81
Remakes
HeartGold - 87
SoulSilver - 87
OmegaRuby - 83
AlphaSapphire - 82
Leaf Green - 81
Fire Red - 81
Let's Go Eevee - 80
Let's Go Pikachu - 79
Third versions
Ultra Sun - 84
Ultra Moon - 84
Platinum - 83
Black 2 - 80
White 2 - 80
Emerald - 76
The last 2 games GF put out are the less critically acclaimed titles of their kind.
Ultimately it's the overall experience that matters, and fire emblem was excellent and in some ways extremely unique.
Outside of special cases like starters and legendary special moves? Not from what I've seen.
They didn't "cut massive amounts of content from the game"
What they did was NOT include features or Pokemon that were present in previous games - that doesn't mean that THIS game is bad.
I'm not too surprised by the review scores. They mostly read like Pokemon reviews for any generation, that is highlighting the strong mechanics and charm inherent to Pokemon, glossing over technical deficiencies, and barely touching on the 'hardcore' features. The Eurogamer review surprisingly really nails the apparent issues for Sw/Sh. But I guess none of it matters, because instead I should just grow up.
I've said it before, but I honestly don't know if reviewers even care to be critical about Pokemon games. With others you'll see comments on tech, performance, comparisons to previous titles and others in the genre, actual analysis. With Pokemon "Pretty easy, kinda the same as last time, not the best looking, but I had fun 🤷🏽♂️. 8-9/10"
However, at 8/10 these are easily the lowest new generation titles the series has had at this point, by a fairly significant degree
That person was stating false information to suit a narrative. X/Y were 88 and Sun/Moon 87, SwSh is an 80. 7 is generous, arguably one could go with the 8.
I'm just messing around too lol people in this thread are really saying stuff like "stop pushing the 78 narrative, it's a 79"
These reviews and scores show once again how strong the foundation of this series is. Regardless of how "bad" everything around it is, the core gameplay loop is as fun as ever. Got the feeling that there's little incentive for them to make substantial changes, sadly.
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The day/night cycle thing was quickly disproven and everyone moved on. The rest of the criticims people had were legitimate.
Lets be honest.
Euro(gamer)peans just gave it less glowing review because they cant appreciate pokemon games like refined americans do.
One might even say they fly above.
please dont kill me, this is a reference
You should be thankful you can't see review threads tbh.
Around what I expected.
High 70s, low 80s.
I didn't think reviews would impact sales too much, but with standard Pokémon reviews, I expect sales to be uncumbered by any baggage hardcore fans will likely experience.
I expect this to be the best selling games since 2nd gen.
High 70s, low 80s.
I didn't think reviews would impact sales too much, but with standard Pokémon reviews, I expect sales to be uncumbered by any baggage hardcore fans will likely experience.
I expect this to be the best selling games since 2nd gen.
