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rochellepaws

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,460
Ireland
I don't expect it to bomb or review poorly, and I don't want it to do those things because I have a vendetta against the game. I want Game Freak to walk back and look at a lot of design decisions and change them for the better, which also would require stopping a yearly release cycle. None of those things will happen without backlash.
Reviewers have never been particularly soft on Pokemon games, even if they don't especially care about the features cut there does seem to be a lot of disappointment in the wider audience with the lack of invention, limited open world space and below par graphics for a HD title along with the increased price. It'd surprise me if it was scoring close to the 3DS games.
 

Squid Bunny

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 11, 2018
5,342
It's pretty accurate when they will give gf a pass and you know they are looking forward to blindly defend the game and use every excuse in the book. It happened with lets go and it will happen here but this time they won't have the excuse of waiting for the next year's game.
But that's the thing. You know people can like LGPE without being a GF apologist? I thought it was fine, really, for what it set out to be.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,053
Yo Peeps. This is gonna be my first new mainline Pokemon game since gen 3( I played lets go pikachu). This may seem like a loaded question, but what have I missed? How has the series evolved (or I guess in some cases not evolved). Are the 3D games good?

The 3DS games are super divisive. This looks like it has a lot of the same flaws as the 3DS games. Some improvements from there, some downgrades. I was hoping for a step forward, but is more of the same, this time in HD.

I'm in the large group that thinks regular DS was peak Pokemon. Black/White 2 is the only game I've really enjoyed of the ones I've tried.
 

Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
This verifies these are two different stations and not a detail update as people were suggesting:
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The fact that both stations exists as is in game is both hilarious and depressing.
 

ned_ballad

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
48,288
Rochester, New York
I'm still getting this game and I'll probably still enjoy it, but I can't say there's a lot that I'm really disappointed in. It'll probably be like ORAS where I didn't enjoy it that much, but beat it out of obligation rather than because it was a good game.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,349
Midgar, With Love
Either these are a bad batch that got out in the wild, or they are shipping as is with no care in the world. If its the 2nd I love em, I really do.

Alright, I've been cool with some of the things folks here have criticized but I can't help making the meme bigger at this particular moment:

"Personally, I'm GLAD that battle removed the music. I never used it anyway."
 

Cronogear

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,012
I don't expect it to bomb or review poorly, and I don't want it to do those things because I have a vendetta against the game. I want Game Freak to walk back and look at a lot of design decisions and change them for the better, which also would require stopping a yearly release cycle. None of those things will happen without backlash.
The thing is, even fan backlash likely won't do much, when the game reviews like usual and sells like usual (as will inevitably happen). Game Freak has proven time and time again that fan feedback isn't something they particularly concern themselves with.

We're all basically old men yelling at clouds.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,631
User banned (1 week): Off-topic trolling. History of related behavior.
But that's the thing. You know people can like LGPE without being a GF apologist? I thought it was fine, really, for what it set out to be.
when a poster make money from an IP and has things like product reveals on their website... Of course people are going to act like their opinions are suspect.
 

Lothars

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,765
But that's the thing. You know people can like LGPE without being a GF apologist? I thought it was fine, really, for what it set out to be.
Yeah and that's fine, I like some things about let's go as well but the discussion around it was the issue anytime we discussed issues around let's go and what could happen with pokemon, it was dismissed that wait for sword and shield and those exact same posters are now dismissing criticism as people upset about national dex and basically anyone negative doesn't matter.

when a poster make money from an IP and has things like product reveals on their website... Of course people are going to act like their opinions are suspect.
well it's not the making money that's the issue, it's how they have treated any of the criticism.
 

Deleted member 60992

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 31, 2019
287
Those moves being harder to get repeatedly IS a form of balance; now you have to work to get them on everybody instead of just sticking Boltbeam on everyone willy nilly. If it were so you only got one of their TRs, always and forever, and never again, I'd understand the anger, but this is just making you work a little bit to get the best moves.

Also making the elemental punches and fangs teachable is a huge step forward.

I would agree with this except that they made everything else so brain dead easy and less grinding.

I'm thinking Game Freak did it this way is because they needed to have rewards for the raids. Like they hope it'll motivate players into constantly doing raids. But that leads me to question then putting a daily limit on the best raids.
 

Serif

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,813
The wolves have an atmospheric battle theme at the beginning of the game, why they wouldn't have one in their actual encounter is confusing.
 

Horohorohoro

Member
Jan 28, 2019
6,727
What was it people were talking about with Togetic yesterday? Was it the same thing as with Corviknight? Did they make your Pokemon's wings flapping make noise for every single Pokemon?
 

Nocturnowl

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,195
I'm still getting this game and I'll probably still enjoy it, but I can't say there's a lot that I'm really disappointed in. It'll probably be like ORAS where I didn't enjoy it that much, but beat it out of obligation rather than because it was a good game.
This was exactly my ORAS experience.
Though I can't imagine this one being lower for me because I can be distracted by shiny new mon at least
 

Mekanos

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 17, 2018
44,299
The lack of music in the legendary battle seems to be an artistic choice, although I would have gone with something lowkey and ambient. Doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
 

Mickagau

Member
Dec 11, 2018
2,188
France
This is MIND BLOWING

Go to 15 seconds





DEM IMPROVED ANIMATIONS

There are TONS of jrpg with cutscenes like that, like almost every jrpg, even the bigger ones. I suppose there will be high quality cutscenes and low quality ones.

This thread is...uh. Its only purpose seems to focus on negativity at all cost. I'm out.