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Are you buying the game physically, digitally?

  • Physically

    Votes: 620 42.2%
  • As a gift physically

    Votes: 18 1.2%
  • Digitally

    Votes: 483 32.9%
  • As a gift digitally

    Votes: 4 0.3%
  • Neither

    Votes: 260 17.7%
  • One Digitally and One Physically?

    Votes: 27 1.8%
  • Both Digital or Physical?

    Votes: 56 3.8%

  • Total voters
    1,468

PirateKingERA

Member
Aug 22, 2018
3,122
Houston, Texas
So that 4 players co-op thing, will there be a thread on ERA for people who are interested? I got no friends who play Pokemon and I really want to try it out, maybe we can do a pm or something for people interested?
 
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TheEchosOfTheCyborg
Feb 24, 2018
5,269
One of the benefits I have not getting Shield at launch (low on money and someone already getting me it for the Holidays) is going to be able to be able to see the full reviews, the full returning Pokemon roster and who is in what game. Bad side bad side of course is avoiding plot spoilers.
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
kinda worried that the wild area multiplayer will be limited. outside of making curry and raids, there doesn't seem like there's anything else to do
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,130
gengar deserves everything after they took away it's levitate

Poor Gengar, I said it earlier, but losing his Shiny White Mega version sucks as well.

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It's nearly another Garchomp Situation.

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There's a reason I keep asking they add more Shiny Colours for the pokemon in the game. This is one of them.
 

Atheerios

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,106
This is very interesting... This is the first game I see they include this phrasing. "in-game purchase for users who do not have membership".



So a separate purchase? Or are they just taking about purchasing NSO in-game. But why only Pokémon has that specific message when technically you can buy subscription in-game for any online game?
 

Elliott

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,472
Poor Gengar, I said it earlier, but losing his Shiny White Mega version sucks as well.

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It's nearly another Garchomp Situation.

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There's a reason I keep asking they add more Shiny Colours for the pokemon in the game. This is one of them.
The first time I traded to evolve my shiny Haunter I thought the person had switched it out with a normal variant to screw me.
 

Aleh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,312
kinda worried that the wild area multiplayer will be limited. outside of making curry and raids, there doesn't seem like there's anything else to do
Just being able to explore or shiny hunt with friends is gonna be enough for me. After all PvP and trading is the main multiplayer stuff and that doesn't require a specific place
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,130
This is very interesting... This is the first game I see they include this phrasing. "in-game purchase for users who do not have membership".



So a separate purchase? Or are they just taking about purchasing NSO in-game. But why only Pokémon has that specific message when technically you can buy subscription in-game for any online game?


Pokemon Home compatiability perhaps? Maybe there's a purchase option for Home in the game itself.

(We can assume Home is going to charge a subscription of some kind?)
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
Just being able to explore or shiny hunt with friends is gonna be enough for me. After all PvP and trading is the main multiplayer stuff and that doesn't require a specific place
it does raise the question of what happens when a person gets into battle. do the other players spectate, they go into battle alongside the person, or keep running around? do everyone see the same pokemon or not?

it won't be unusual to people to expect to do more than just run around together, which is why I hope this won't be a hollow, window-dressing experience
 

Aleh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,312
it does raise the question of what happens when a person gets into battle. do the other players spectate, they go into battle alongside the person, or keep running around? do everyone see the same pokemon or not?

it won't be unusual to people to expect to do more than just run around together, which is why I hope this won't be a hollow, window-dressing experience
I hope we DONT see the same Pokémon. If someone steals my shinies friendship over.
And walking around won't be the only thing as there are Raids, Camping and Cooking, which is just enough to have a good time. It's not like they have advertised the features beyond this either
 
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TheEchosOfTheCyborg
Feb 24, 2018
5,269
Ever since when Gen 3 altered several of the shinies for Pokemon, have they ever changed a Pokemon's shiny? Nothing really is stopping them adding more re-skin like regional shinies for some.

Which reminds of how Arbok got screwed out of their regional scary face designs post Gen 3...
 

Aleh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,312
Ever since when Gen 3 altered several of the shinies for Pokemon, have they ever changed a Pokemon's shiny? Nothing really is stopping them adding more re-skin like regional shinies for some.

Which reminds of how Arbok got screwed out of their regional scary face designs post Gen 3...
I want a whole new tier of shinies :( not sure if they would need separate textures ballooning the file size or if they can just apply filters to them though.
 

Zacmortar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,383
Man, tried out the Light Platinum romhack to tide me over and if thats the most loved romhack, i wouldnt trust fans with this franchise in any way shape or form lmao

Is every romhack fight arbitrarily overlevelled to force grinding lol
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
I hope we DONT see the same Pokémon. If someone steals my shinies friendship over.
And walking around won't be the only thing as there are Raids, Camping and Cooking, which is just enough to have a good time. It's not like they have advertised the features beyond this either
they can always do group catch, or have the person who instigated the battle be the only one to catch and knockout the pokemon
 

Aleh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,312
they can always do group catch, or have the person who instigated the battle be the only one to catch and knockout the pokemon
The problem is you may not want to always battle a Pokémon at the same time of the other person. If they allowed you to join the battle after someone already initiated it then I'd be ok with it
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,130
Ever since when Gen 3 altered several of the shinies for Pokemon, have they ever changed a Pokemon's shiny? Nothing really is stopping them adding more re-skin like regional shinies for some.

Which reminds of how Arbok got screwed out of their regional scary face designs post Gen 3...

Nothing in main games, I know Pokken had some different colour schemes because you needed them in a fighting game to differentiate the fighters. Some good colours in there, some weird ones like the Pikachu with pants as well.

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(This ain't all of them, missing the DLC Ones in there)

And there's Smash as well which has stuff like fan-dubbed Big the Cat coloured Incineroar.

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That's also the one used for the Big the Cat Spirit battle as well.
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
The problem is you may not want to always battle a Pokémon at the same time of the other person. If they allowed you to join the battle after someone already initiated it then I'd be ok with it
party rules and whatnot can be toggled probably. co-operative fighting and catching pokemon should be there as an option at least if they're gonna have 4-player play
 

Zacmortar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,383
Fan content for this IP is pretty frequently questionable. I remember reading what was one of the most popular fan comics and feeling sick because they basically introduced blood to battles.
Fortunately the only real fancomic ive read was that fuckin Pokemon X pixel comic, I remember reading that in like 2008-2010 as a early teen and it had awful Tim Buckley style self insert intermissions
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,609
North Carolina
What's different about those relative to the real ones?
There are versions with and without the full dex, several pokemon have stat/ability/movelist/type changes (water/fighting dewott and samurott for example), the AI is generally more competent across the board, trainers' teams get mixed up a bit and they generally have more and/or higher level pokemon. I think there was even a version of one of them that adds fairy type to the games, but I don't recall playing that one. There are also fun moments like Zapdos popping up in a dust cloud while you're in Chargestone Cave
 

lvl 99 Pixel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,758
Fortunately the only real fancomic ive read was that fuckin Pokemon X pixel comic, I remember reading that in like 2008-2010 as a early teen and it had awful Tim Buckley style self insert intermissions

Not familiar with Pokemon x Pixel but that sounds like quite a thing. Was Reburst officially licensed? because that would probably be the most wtf
The Pokemon battles with blood was bad so I tried reading what looked like a well drawn Mystery Dungeon manga and it literally begins with decapitation lol
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,313
Midgar, With Love
There are versions with and without the full dex, several pokemon have stat/ability/movelist/type changes (water/fighting dewott and samurott for example), the AI is generally more competent across the board, trainers' teams get mixed up a bit and they generally have more and/or higher level pokemon. I think there was even a version of one of them that adds fairy type to the games, but I don't recall playing that one. There are also fun moments like Zapdos popping up in a dust cloud while you're in Chargestone Cave

Sounds pretty neat!
 

doodlebob

Member
Mar 11, 2018
1,401
Ill have to try these out, but oof was Light Platinum not a good first impression of romhacks lol
The golden age of original ROM hacks ended as Gen 5 began. Pokémon Brown, Liquid Crystal, Shiny Gold X, Orange, Azure Horizons were all really good. Azure Horizons was unfinished, but the polish was amazing.

Nowadays, there's less that's interesting enough to play through since ROM hacking hasn't advanced past the point of FireRed/LeafGreen hacks. You can make stuff with Pokémon Essentials, but it's not the same and is usually an imitation.

I typically tend to avoid ROM hacks that just modify the original games since it's basically the same game with better Pokémon distribution.

The ROM hacking scene was so lively, and now it's basically all dead :/
 

Zacmortar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,383
Not familiar with Pokemon x Pixel but that sounds like quite a thing. Was Reburst officially licensed? because that would probably be the most wtf
The Pokemon battles with blood was bad so I tried reading what looked like a well drawn Mystery Dungeon manga and it literally begins with decapitation lol
it was just called pokemon x, it was a pixel comic in that it used sprite art instead of digital/hand drawing. Looking it up, its still going..... 16 years later.... and they have a patreon, holy shit. I couldnt imagine dedicating 16 years of my life to a fan comic.

Though, even 16 years in, the website is as archaic as it was when I first read it nearly 12 years ago lol

EDIT wOOOHA NEVERMIND just saw the first page from 2005 again and
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Amazing the kind of horrible shit you just completely miss as a child
 

TheGamingNewsGuy

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 5, 2017
31,537
Fan content for this IP is pretty frequently questionable. I remember reading what was one of the most popular fan comics and feeling sick because they basically introduced blood to battles.
There's also tons of human/pokemon fan-fiction which is extremely questionable. TotalEclipse (Dawn/Darkai) is extremely popular for some reason
 

Scarlet Spider

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,764
Brooklyn, NY
Speaking of Romhacks, I've been playing Pokemon XG. Adding fairy type and gen VI mechanics/moves definitely made battles more interesting. Along with this level scaling, hoo boy. Orre region has such amazing music.
 

Delio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,469
kinda worried that the wild area multiplayer will be limited. outside of making curry and raids, there doesn't seem like there's anything else to do

Prob just going to be for bullshitting around for a few weeks. Tho since everyone will be trying to get Raid mons it might be active for a while.
 

Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
This is very interesting... This is the first game I see they include this phrasing. "in-game purchase for users who do not have membership".



So a separate purchase? Or are they just taking about purchasing NSO in-game. But why only Pokémon has that specific message when technically you can buy subscription in-game for any online game?

Probably for Pokemon Home, I wouldn't be surprised if you could directly access it from within the game after a patch. Would be a kick in the balls considering that there would be Pokemon you can't transfer but it does make some sense.
I still don't know what starter to chose, they've all grown on me a lot.

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Huh, that explains a lot why the Battle Scenes got so detailed and accurate to the actual area you are battling in while also becoming quite big despite the stinted scaling for the Pokemon Models, they also double as the Pokemon Camp campsites like how Pokemon Refresh does.
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
Prob just going to be for bullshitting around for a few weeks. Tho since everyone will be trying to get Raid mons it might be active for a while.
that shit gonna die so quickly. GF isn't aiming for a live service, so I don't have too much expectations for online features to be expanded in the future. hence why I hope there's other stuff to do since it seems likely that even cooperative play will die quickly.

so close to a cooperative pokemon experience and yet so far
 

Dongs Macabre

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,284
The golden age of original ROM hacks ended as Gen 5 began. Pokémon Brown, Liquid Crystal, Shiny Gold X, Orange, Azure Horizons were all really good. Azure Horizons was unfinished, but the polish was amazing.

Nowadays, there's less that's interesting enough to play through since ROM hacking hasn't advanced past the point of FireRed/LeafGreen hacks. You can make stuff with Pokémon Essentials, but it's not the same and is usually an imitation.

I typically tend to avoid ROM hacks that just modify the original games since it's basically the same game with better Pokémon distribution.

The ROM hacking scene was so lively, and now it's basically all dead :/
I recently checked the old websites I used to use to find romhacks and it looks like people figured out how to modify maps and scripts in the DS games but at this point the scene is so dead that no one is really taking advantage of it (although I assume there's some Assembly going on which probably makes the barrier to entry extra high). It's really disappointing considering how prolific GBA romhacks were.
 

Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
I recently checked the old websites I used to use to find romhacks and it looks like people figured out how to modify maps and scripts in the DS games but at this point the scene is so dead that no one is really taking advantage of it (although I assume there's some Assembly going on which probably makes the barrier to entry extra high). It's really disappointing considering how prolific GBA romhacks were.
Pokecommunity is a graveyard compared to what it once was, dedicated forums just aint like they used to be.
 

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
106,132
it was just called pokemon x, it was a pixel comic in that it used sprite art instead of digital/hand drawing. Looking it up, its still going..... 16 years later.... and they have a patreon, holy shit. I couldnt imagine dedicating 16 years of my life to a fan comic.

Though, even 16 years in, the website is as archaic as it was when I first read it nearly 12 years ago lol

EDIT wOOOHA NEVERMIND just saw the first page from 2005 again and
EHMSGzmWwAkOH1K


Amazing the kind of horrible shit you just completely miss as a child

Oh god Pokemon X, blast from the fucking past lol