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Do I want Russia to win? No. Do I also think it's fine to force someone to fight in a war against their will? No. If that causes Russia win, that's how the cookie crumbles.
I provided a link to help you with your foreign volunteer service, you're eligible. Look forward to seeing you on the battlefield.
I say this as a german reservist who is probably going to be among the first that are going to get called up if russia ever starts something. No one wants to get killed or be forced to take a life but if your answer to your family getting bombed and your neighbors or friends getting tortured or enslaved is to hideaway in luxury and complain i don't know what to say.
International Legion (Ukraine) - Wikipedia
Do I want Russia to win? No. Do I also think it's fine to force someone to fight in a war against their will? No. If that causes Russia win, that's how the cookie crumbles.
I provided a link to help you with your foreign volunteer service, you're eligible. Look forward to seeing you on the battlefield.
Thanks man! Obviously not going to do that. I will continue to send money. Hopefully you are also sending money :)
Oh I see. That does shed light on the desperation of the situation, thanks.
Under the Dublin Regulation, Poland is in charge of anyone who was registred here and I don't think EU regulations regarding refugees allow Poland to send them back in a country where their lives could be at risk.
If Ukraine is unable to get more soldiers from the conscription then yes, Europe should send troops, with the US as a last resort. Too many Americans have died fighting Europe's battles in WW1/2. It's time to stop Russia. I don't condone genocide by Russia. They need to be stopped
Okay if this war is going that bad why isn't Poland forcing their people to help? Why is someone born in Ukraine forced to fight to the death instead of you or anyone else?
So you're fine with Eastern Europeans dying to protect your Western way of life but you're "obviously not" going to volunteer to protect your way of life that Eastern Europeans are dying for, interesting.
Without the US, Ukraine would have already fallen. Biden rallied 50+ nations to send ammunition and weapons.
I can't believe Charles Lindbergh brand isolationism still exists.
Become a conscientious objector, which is more than just not wanting to die, or face the penal consequences. You can't opt out of society.
If the US could get involved without Russia using nuclear weapons, I say go for it. The US air force would annihilate Russian forces in Ukraine in less than 72 hours.
Oh so someone born in Ukraine has to fight to the death because if someone else helps then ww3 would happen but in Ukraine ww3 is already happening and once again if Russia is this crazy then stopping them at all costs should come first.
No they either stay ukrainian (assuming a government in exile would be formed that is internationally recognized) or become russian citizens (in case of annexation russia is probably going to offer citizenship to ukrainians in a play to erase ukrainian culture and national identiy).
Don´t be ridiculous, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about thinking this is anywhere close to a world war.
I mean this with sincerity - I wish this naive view was the way things worked.
Except it's not a war my family, my home, or my country are involved in. I'm simply saying that I understand why a country might need such measures in a defensive war. I don't know how to quote it, but in an earlier comment you said conscription is only used in defensive wars for survival anyhow. But that's not really true. When I think of unjust conscription, I think of situations like Vietnam where I agree with anyone in America who wished to avoid service. This is rather different, I think. Again, I don't think Poland is necessarily right to deport anybody but I don't think conscription is necessarily unjust either.
Obviously you wouldn't sacrifice your life; that's unthinkable.
It's not Biden's fault, this most recent aid package was just held up way too long in Congress. What was the cost of denying Ukraine critical artillery and defenses for so long? How much worse is the battlefield situation these refugees could be thrown into? I don't know what the right answer is here, but I'm not gonna wag my finger at anyone who chooses not to fight.
Why ?
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I think you already left the thread, but I'll respond anyhow. Maybe I misunderstood the conversation, but I interpreted people talking about Europeans or Americans joining as referring to international volunteers, not those nations' actual armies joining the war. My comment about isolationism was mostly in regards to the way you referred to the second World War as merely Europe's battle and using that as a justification for Americans not helping, which to me seemed improper.
How about you speak for yourself, there are plenty active or former duty personnel on this site
