What the fuck was that? Goddamn some if these people really live i a fantasy world.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Police bodycam footage of thug resisting arrest goes viral
- Thread starter Professor Beef
- Start date
What the fuck was that? Goddamn some if these people really live i a fantasy world.
The video was disturbing. The schadenfreude in the thread even more so. Fuck me the golden rule is pretty basic and no I ain't no holy roller; it's just basic humanity. You see an instance of near fascist behavior and you laugh, call it deserved or rationalise it because of morale equivalence you need to check your compass.
This could be anyone's grandmother.
This could be anyone's grandmother.
Last edited:
If they did this and only got tased. Yeah would that's 90% of cops episodes people laugh at
This is the mindset that scares me. Arguing with a cop is not illegal, but you seem to think it warrants an arrest. And this is where I seem to disagree with certain people here. I've seen this happen first hand on several occasions, always to minorities, where cops will bother us, and with anyone has the audacity to argue, it turns into an absolute shit show because the cop feels like they can do whatever they want. Very quick to start barking orders and dehumanizing people, very quick to tell someone they're under arrest without an actual charge, then charge them with resisting arrest.
You and I clearly view policing differently. I think the notion that cops are always right and, if questioned, they are allowed to do whatever they want to you, is a dangerous way to think. So yes, I think arguing with a cop should be a valid option, it also isn't illegal, but the law doesn't really matter when it comes to police.
This is actually a great example. I find it sad that people enjoy the show Cops, where police misconduct is glorified and everyone laughs at the evil minority that they're manhandling. Again, disturbing. But Americans enjoy it.
My grandmother would never be in this situation because she is not a huge piece of entitled shit?
So you or your GM have never lost your shit, over anything, ever? You are stone cold my friend.
Pretty sure my grandma would have a bullet between her eyes if she tried something like this. Obvious anyone is reserved for 'anyone white-passing'
The only thing about this video that makes me uncomfortable is the brazen entitlement of white people, when it comes to law enforcement.
Then your post makes zero sense, asking me to put my grandma in a white woman's shoes, doing some white woman shit.
This shit is not funny. Fuck these motherfucking pigs and fuck anybody who get enjoyment out of this, even as a form of catharsis
That's fine, but context leaves me with no sympathy for this fool who thought they were above everything
Aye.
The sad part is that the whole time I was thinking that if she'd be a black woman, he would have knocked her out, and a black man would be dead with multiple gun shots.
This old lady hopefully will go through some counseling/ psych eval, because her reaction to a simple ticket was kinda insane (and full of white privilege).
Why would you get arrested for $80 ticket? That's seems ludicrous. Unless she is driving without a license or under the influence then is understandable but it seems ridiculous to get arrested for a an $80 fine ticket.
Did you watch the video? She didn't get arrested for an $80 ticket. She got arrested for 1) refusing to sign for the ticket. 2) trying to escape from a law enforcement officer during a traffic stop. 3) assaulting a police officer.
Fuck outta here, lmao. She got treated with kids gloves cause she's white. Let that be my grandmother and she'd have been shot dead. Even when one is dead wrong white privilege helps out and throws an assist.
2nd and 3rd point I can agree with but the 1st one is still ridiculous. Why would you sign a fine? Just send them via mail. Here in Australia, when the police fine you for this kind of thing they just let you go and you'll receive the fine in the mail no needs to sign anything.
just to be clear, do you think this is an example of appropriate policing had the lady been black?
Sounds like they would love for all people to be treated that way, but unfortunately they aren't.
I don't make the law man. I just tell you what I know. Someone here or on reddit who is a lawyer can tell you better.
But if I have to guess, usually for small infraction, a ticket is given in place of having to show up to court, and a signature is required so that the person knows that this officer is accusing them of this traffic crime. They can either pay the ticket or contest it in court at a later date.
but what i'm interested is that does this clear the bar of what would be considered "good policing" for some people? because if a cop did this in my country i don't think they should be one the next day.
To follow on this, I also don't actually know traffic law, but this seems like if they don't put their signature on the crime, then they get taken in for it. You're avoiding going to the station for an infraction by signing the ticket.
If you refuse arrest, evade police, refuse to come out at gunpoint and kick said officer arresting you due to a 'bad day' or 'losing your shit', seek help friend
Yeah, compared to what usually happens, this cop is a saint of restraint and deescalation.
On one hand it's satisfying seeing a lifetime of white privilege get smacked down. On the other, systemic authoritarian police brutality is fucked.
I do like turning the racist use of "thug" so frequently used to dehumanize PoCs on its head to apply to someone like the woman in this vid (it would be fascinating if that ever took hold when talking about, say white COVID deniers).
I do like turning the racist use of "thug" so frequently used to dehumanize PoCs on its head to apply to someone like the woman in this vid (it would be fascinating if that ever took hold when talking about, say white COVID deniers).
i doubt that very much, since i find it unlikely that a ticket usually turns into tazing, but i would still like a clear answer: if this was a black old lady in the video, would the police still have acted appropriately? because to me the answer is obviously no, just as it's an obvious no here.
Yeah but even then, I mean where is she gonna run to, is she gonna go on the lam to Mexico or something? They got her plates, they can find out who she is. They shouldn't need her to sign a ticket, getting a ticket doesn't require the consent of both parties as far as I know, if she doesn't want to sign it she can go to court if a warrant gets placed. And assaulting... eh. Maybe she had an assassin's creed blade up her sleeve or something but I doubt it, and it didn't even need to be escalated to that point to begin with. Ostensibly, she did get arrested for a ticket because the rest of it didn't need to happen or wasn't a big deal.
That's a nice touch for sure.
That changes nothing in regards to this being excessive use of force though. Her being a fool is irrelevant.
While it would be an improvement compared to how black people are treated now, unfortunately people here would seemingly answer this question with a 'yes'. I suppose this is considered good policing by many here.
People lose their shit everyday; a State where the appropriate response is a tasering or worse is Fascist. People championing a show of Fascism as an appropriate response have lost touch with their Humanity IMO and truly do need to seek help.
It's not. I for damn sure wouldn't want my grammies treated this way
I find it hilarious. What did this entitled bitch think would happen with that behavior?
Leaving aside that my grandmother, were she alive, would not refuse to sign the ticket (because sensible people know they can get out of tickets because cops don't typically show up to traffic court, DUH), would not drive off mid-citation and wouldn't openly assault an officer, ESPECIALLY if she was guilty... this all happened because she thought she was above the law, which is the height of privilege, right alongside people citing HIPAA to not wear a mask.
I think some folks here forget that the judiciary exists for a reason (at least for white people, anyways) and this would have been exactly that reason, had she not unlawfully resisted citation and subsequent arrest for attempting to flee and not been obviously guilty of a crime.
"But she wasn't a harm to anyone!", I hear some folks bleating. But the fact is, she was driving a truck with a busted tailgate and no tail lights. Allegedly for 6 MONTHS. That's a public danger, she's lucky that her vehicle wasn't impounded on top of the ticket. There's no presumption of innocence, she committed a crime driving that vehicle and there was physical evidence at the scene.
On its face, I disagree with the use of force by police, as well, as it is typically applied unnecessarily to innocent people who do their best to abide by the rule of law and police instruction. But claiming "fascism" in a non-authoritarian state on behalf of an obviously-guilty woman who thought she was above the law and behaved as such? With that line of thinking, we're practically giving this woman carte blanche to do whatever the hell she pleases, whenever she pleases. It's excusing unlawful and dangerous behaviour because of a distrust in the police when it's unjustified. Seriously, I think some of you need to get a grip.
No. Fascism explicitly normalizes violence. The woman was in the wrong. The use of violence was Fascist. However many people in here are saying that the response was too tame!
This woman could have been charged and dealt with without her life being put in danger. Honestly this isn't difficult.
You are all so used to the Facism you are calling for more of it.
This is a problem though. You can't just say "Oh let me sign the ticket now" AFTER you're told you're under arrest, lol. I mean, I guess he could have let her sign it and then arrested her, but that would be over the top. The police don't say "You're under arrest" and then allow YOU to walk it back. How does that make any sense?
can you articulate why exactly that doesn't make sense? what makes those words so magical that once a police officer utters them they cannot reconsider the situation?
I too find it hilarious when cops threaten to murder people over $80 fines.
I never said that.
You said that the stuff after the ticket being refused didn't need to happen. Yeah it didn't need to happen, but she chose to make it happen by running away.
So your answer is "let her get away with a criminal offence, with the false presumption that you'll be guaranteed to find her later and keep her from continuing to be a danger to others". I'm glad we know where you stand on this. What's the point of having laws in the first place, in that case?
The escalation began with her, and escalation begets escalation, violence begets violence. Again, I'm against violence used by police, and I even agree that the taser was a bit on the side of excessive (I know it would not have been my choice), but this is not the hill you want to die on to make the point you're trying to make, with an obviously guilty woman who thinks the rule of law doesn't apply to her, to the point of assaulting an officer, as your poster-child. Trust me, there's PLENTY of better candidates.
In my country a cop that needs to utilise a taser in a situation like this gets fired and this is a major incident of police using exessive force.
I don't get how people accept police officers just tasing people