This.Why don't we work on making actual marginalized communities feel good about using ERA before worrying about this.
This.Why don't we work on making actual marginalized communities feel good about using ERA before worrying about this.
Half this board would be gone if toxicity was actually banned.
Like publicly? I thought insiders were privately vetted by the admin team.for them to verify their actual name and position in the industry.
I don't *want* them privately vetted. I don't think insiders should be leaking things that can damage people's jobs for no tangible benefit but our own entertainment; the admin staff shouldn't be encouraging this, as far as I'm concerned.Like publicly? I thought insiders were privately vetted by the admin team.
(agree with you on the personal and financial damage part btw)
I understand you feel that way and I don't even really disagree, but you just said that you wanted insiders to verify their actual information and I was asking for elaboration on thatI don't *want* them privately vetted. I don't think insiders should be leaking things that can damage people's jobs for no tangible benefit but our own entertainment; the admin staff shouldn't be encouraging this, as far as I'm concerned.
They are privately vetted but that still lets them leak stuff online with no personal consequence. If their real name was on it, they wouldn't do it for fear of getting fired or blacklisted.I understand you feel that way and I don't even really disagree, but you just said that you wanted insiders to verify their actual information and I was asking for elaboration on that
For sure, it absolutely is gross seeing the mob mentality gang up on someone, and I definitely don't mean to excuse that kind of behavior and it should 100% be discouraged as much as possible.While you aren't technically wrong from our current position, I always take issue with this stance because it places the responsibility entirely on one side of the dynamic. Why do we not more strongly encourage or expect users to keep their emotions and expectations in check?
Reminds me of the Diablo Mobile fiasco. Pages of people debating what Blizzard "should have done differently" to avoid the Gamer Rage™. Sounds like bully or abuser talk to me. One side is not only allowed to but is often expected to overreact, usually viciously, to disappointment - and the other side is given all the moral imperative to navigate that environment as cautiously as possible to avoid retaliation for any perceived slight.
Of course folks with this mindset would flip out when some insider notices how seriously y'all take this absolutely-not-serious stuff and decides to mess with you.
It's kind of disgusting
Gotcha. Thanks. That along withThey are privately vetted but that still lets them leak stuff online with no personal consequence. If their real name was on it, they wouldn't do it for fear of getting fired or blacklisted.
I'm not saying I want it to happen for verification purposes, I'm saying I want it to happen for consequential purposes.
this I can agree with. The cults of personality, the mob reactions when things don't turn out as expected, the repercussions on people in the industry... it all does just kind of make the case against freewheelin' insider culture on its own.For sure, it absolutely is gross seeing the mob mentality gang up on someone, and I definitely don't mean to excuse that kind of behavior and it should 100% be discouraged as much as possible.
Separately from that, I don't think "insiders" (especially those who are just parroting information they don't have firsthand knowledge of themselves) should be encouraged to get the same level of attention as a thread on a verified news source.
Maybe it's just me, but like how they say "new news, new thread", I think rumors should stay in other threads (related topics, OT's, or in Hangouts), they shouldn't get the same level of attention as a thread about a verified news story.
That way it can still be talked about and discussed, but then when it's proven false it doesn't cause as much of a shit storm as if it had been a rumor first posted about in its own thread.
And with a less gigantic shitstorm, it probably makes it much easier for mods to make the necessary bans.
For example, a thread title with "RUMOR: 3D Mario games coming to Switch" is OK since that story had multiple people, and confirmations were coming from different sources.
But a thread title of "RUMOR user sexygamerchat says that Goku is coming to Smash" is bad since even if sexygamerchat has gotten a few rumors correct in the past, it in no way backs up their claim with anything and no other sources have heard the same thing.
Aaaaand we are done here. OP talks about making people feel safe and accepted, then needlessly genders a f#$@ing forum.Why don't we work on making actual marginalized communities feel good about using ERA before worrying about this.
And sometimes it goes straight personal. Like FamousMortimer.believe it or not, "insiders" getting it wrong do make lives harder for devs
Goodbye :'vHalf this board would be gone if toxicity was actually banned.
It cracks me up that the same userbase that threw a fit about moderation using the term "prominent member" has such a desperate need and want for "insiders" to legitimize the forum.
This is it.Why don't we work on making actual marginalized communities feel good about using ERA before worrying about this.
To me this is only suitable if someone is leaking about toxicity in the industry and they want to protect themselves. Like bad working conditions, racism (any ism), stuff like that.
Not because they are leaking that one console has higher TF than another or something like that.
Agreed.They should be more accountable for their bullshit
They are already protected by "plans change"