PS1 games on Asian PSN for $5-9, includes CRT Filter, Rewind, Trophies Optional, Scaling, Screenshots

Primeau31 · May 23, 2022

Eoin said:
Nobody should be expecting this feature to bring back previously existing online features in PS2 games. For a start, we don't even know if the PS2 range of games is anything more than it was on PS4. Even if that does happen, the baseline for expectations should still be what's possible with Share Play. If a SOCOM game for PS2 appeared out of nowhere on PS4 today, would Share Play alone turn it into something SOCOM fans were happy with? I think not.

edit: nvm, I see what's going on here, this thread popped off quick and didn't realize it was just 2 player MP via shareplay

edit2: jeez I was still off. it's just a game description that no ones even tried yet? maybe we should take PS1 Online out of the thread title

SuperBoss · May 23, 2022

Fucking amazing

Senator Toadstool · May 23, 2022

Knight613 said:
From the Worms World Party description on the store:
Access the fantastic "Wormpot" which gives you over 1000 different game styles. All modes are available offline, online, or a mixture of both!

They just copied the steam description.

FEATURES:

Access the fantastic "Wormpot" which gives you over 1000 different game styles. All modes are available offline, online, or a mixture of both!

Over 20 Multiplayer missions: players can now team up with a buddy to tackle cooperative missions where working together is the only way to twin. Alternatively, check out the competitive missions and fight in specially prepared scenarios.

Single player and multiplayer, 2-6 players either local or online.

It's a veritable feast with nearly 60 weapons, ranging from the relatively calorie-free bazooka to the full fat concrete Donkey. Oh man!

If you're late to the party scene, don't worry. Our friendly training section will soon have you dancing with the rest of us.

Worms World Party Remastered on Steam

Imagine taking the perfect online gaming experience and one of the most popular Worms games ever made, adding a touch of Steam achievements, leaderboards, cloud saves, full controller support; a little sprinkle of 1080 / 60FPS, and you have Worms World Party Remastered!

store.steampowered.com

I'm 100% willing to say that's a mistake because it lists "offline play enabled" on the official PlayStation features when regular online games say "Online play optional"

You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment. Its a clear error of them not typing a new description

Eoin said:
I think it might be a good idea to temper expectations on what "online play" here likely is.

It's probably Share Play (or a derivative of it using the same technology). Meaning, local multiplayer, as it existed in those games originally, except with controller inputs sent over the internet.

For games like Tekken 2, that would mean one person playing locally while the other gets all the network lag. That will technically work but won't be ideal.

I guess PSP games might have local wireless multiplayer working over the internet. That's not confirmed or anything and I don't think I'd bet money on it, but it doesn't seem out of the question.

Nobody should be expecting this feature to bring back previously existing online features in PS2 games. For a start, we don't even know if the PS2 range of games is anything more than it was on PS4. Even if that does happen, the baseline for expectations should still be what's possible with Share Play. If a SOCOM game for PS2 appeared out of nowhere on PS4 today, would Share Play alone turn it into something SOCOM fans were happy with? I think not.

Nobody should expect online play period.

MADSUPERVILLAIN · May 23, 2022

Knight613 said:
From the Worms World Party description on the store:
Access the fantastic "Wormpot" which gives you over 1000 different game styles. All modes are available offline, online, or a mixture of both!

That same text is on the Steam page for World Party remastered, they just reused the same copy.

Mung · May 23, 2022

Excellent.

Just with PS4 BC, looks to be exceeding pre launch expectations.

I like Sony's approach. Keep expectations low, then exceed them. Makes sense, and works out better in the long run.
Quite often the gaming industry does that in reverse, which leads to a shitshow at launch.

Knight613 · May 23, 2022

MADSUPERVILLAIN said:
That same text is on the Steam page for World Party remastered, they just reused the same copy.

Oh. I just figured they were talking about SharePlay lol

Vertpin · May 23, 2022

Wait, so is online now not happening?

Senator Toadstool · May 23, 2022

Vertpin said:
Wait, so is online now not happening?

people took poor copy and ran with it. it never was announced. they would have been bragging about that.

the correct copy for these rereleases which is common through all of them is

originally released on the PlayStation® console, enhanced with up-rendering, rewind, quick save, and custom video filters.

they would have included online in there if it was happening. its not. those are the new features "up-rendering, rewind, quick save, and custom video filters."

it matches what was in the playstation blog too

PlayStation Plus Premium/Deluxe members will have a selection of popular classic games to play, with some titles that will show improved frame rates and higher-quality resolution compared to their original launch versions. For select original PlayStation and PSP classic games, members will also enjoy a new user interface with menus that allow you to save your game at any time, or even rewind the game if you want a do-over.

All-new PlayStation Plus game lineup: Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, Demon’s Souls, Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut, NBA 2K22, and more join the service

Ape Escape, Super Stardust Portable,Syphon Filter, and Tekken 2, are among the classic games with a new user experience.

blog.playstation.com

MarcelloF · May 23, 2022

Senator Toadstool said:
people took poor copy and ran with it. it never was announced. they would have been bragging about that.

the correct copy for these rereleases which is common through all of them is

they would have included online in there if it was happening. its not. those are the new features "up-rendering, rewind, quick save, and custom video filters."

it matches what was in the playstation blog too

All-new PlayStation Plus game lineup: Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, Demon’s Souls, Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut, NBA 2K22, and more join the service

Ape Escape, Super Stardust Portable,Syphon Filter, and Tekken 2, are among the classic games with a new user experience.

blog.playstation.com

In all fairness, they didn't list Trophies either time, but we know at least some games will be getting them.

Though, I imagine "online" will only be a share play type thing, like I believe it is on Switch. Something like SOCOM getting its actual servers and shit back up most likely won't happen.

Mung · May 23, 2022

Vertpin said:
Wait, so is online now not happening?

I doubt proper online was ever happening.. Sounds like a lot of work for a non online PS1 or PS2 game... With online PS2 games, I still doubt it.

Shareplay type functionality would be good.

Primeau31 · May 23, 2022

Yeah so it seems like the "Online" was just taken from the Worms description which was lifted from Steam? Maybe we should edit the thread title for now?

brokenswiftie · May 23, 2022

Ahh damn! no online?
what a shame
hopefully we got shareplay thingy atleast

Eoin · May 23, 2022

Primeau31 said:
Completely valid and I agree, I just think we can't blame anyone expectation wise at this point when there's 0 communication on the feature(s) - they're literally leaving people to draw their own conclusions when they clearly could have gotten out ahead of this.

Yeah, definitely would be unfair to blame anyone, communication has been scattershot and Sony are really bringing this right down to the wire in terms of giving out full information.

Senator Toadstool said:
Nobody should expect online play period.

Share Play will still add at least basic online functionality to games that had local multiplayer.

0xe0x · May 23, 2022

Always expected this SEA launch making us the guinea pig for the launches in major regions.

Kenzodielocke · May 23, 2022

0xe0x said:
Always expected this SEA launch making us the guinea pig for the launches in major regions.

I mean it didn't even launch yet.

BrickArts295 · May 23, 2022

Checking Exophase be like:

NewDust · May 23, 2022

0xe0x said:
Always expected this SEA launch making us the guinea pig for the launches in major regions.

Hey at least you get it early. EU is getting the tier 4 region treatment this time.

nogoodnamesleft · May 23, 2022

AuthenticM said:
yo this is cool.

any details on the CRT filter? Hopefully it's a real shader and not just some scanlines thing.

its just some scanlines thing

andshrew · May 23, 2022

I could still see games which had link cable support getting some kind of online play added, but it does seem likely that the Worms description is just a copy/paste mistake.

It will be interesting as to whether or not PSP games which supported ad-hoc (local wireless) multiplayer get online multiplayer, given that they previously enabled this via an app on the PS3.

brokenswiftie · May 23, 2022

Mung · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:

Very exciting stuff!

Plasma · May 23, 2022

The CRT filter looks like it's just scanlines but to be fair they don't actually call it a CRT filter in the menus.

Dust · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:

More effort than I ever expected. Might get Premium depending on the full title list.

SixelAlexiS · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:

Why the filters adds crushed blacks and over saturation? They looks terrible...

Bishop89 · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:

The instantaneous load times and rewind feature

If Digimon world 3 shows up on the service im going to faint.

Still... We need to know if PAL regions will get screwed regarding 50hz/60hz. Will be the deciding factor how much I care about any of this...

Igor · May 23, 2022

So with PSplus Premium I will be able to access all of those classic games or I am still required to purchase them separately?

Dust · May 23, 2022

Igor said:
So with PSplus Premium I will be able to access all of those classic games or I am still required to purchase them separately?

You get them all if you are on Premium.

squall12 · May 23, 2022

better than i have expected sony u got my money on the highest tier lol.

FallenGrace · May 23, 2022

matrixman92 said:
Definitely want to support the games that have trophy support

They are the only games I'm interested in.

Hitcher · May 23, 2022

But obviously you have to keep subscribing to play them. I'll just be buying the ones I want to play indefinitely.

Also, do we know if you can backup saves to USB?

Sickteddy · May 23, 2022

So, if the service launches tomorrow (Asia) it was not supposed Sony announce all the games that will be on it today?

nolifebr · May 23, 2022

Hitcher said:
But obviously you have to keep subscribing to play them. I'll just be buying the ones I want to play indefinitely.

Also, do we know if you can backup saves to USB?

Based on how the PS5 system works, only if you're playing the PS4 version

Knight613 · May 23, 2022

Sickteddy said:
So, if the service launches tomorrow (Asia) it was not supposed Sony announce all the games that will be on it today?

Knowing Sony, Asia is more of a soft launch and we get a much fuller lineup when it launches in the US.

Teenage Fansub · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:

I wonder what the 'modern' filter is supposed to be doing apart from darkening the image.

brokenswiftie · May 23, 2022

Teenage Fansub said:
I wonder what the 'modern' filter is supposed to be doing apart from darkening the image.

I think its doing what the retro classic does without the scanlines

Diogo Arez · May 23, 2022

brokenswiftie said:
I think its doing what the retro classic does without the scanlines

Yeah it's the "CRT" filter without scanlines

Neil98 · May 23, 2022

At what time will we get a games lineup? I'm more interested in that tbh

Gradon · May 23, 2022

They should give us a choice between NTSC and PAL versions like Nintendo does.

Hayeya · May 23, 2022

Wow they made a good effort with these.

Animismus · May 23, 2022

If this version of Abe´s odyssey had trophies I would pay for it for sure!

Diogo Arez · May 23, 2022

Gradon said:
They should give us a choice between NTSC and PAL versions like Nintendo does.

Nintendo does? I honestly don't remember the option, then again I only played SNES games on the service, not the N64 ones

liquidtmd · May 23, 2022

Tempering expectations that even if a 'full' list here is disappointing, this may well be a soft launch

I'll start to get real interested in terms of Japan's launch line up

Storm · May 23, 2022

Neil98 said:
At what time will we get a games lineup? I'm more interested in that tbh

Assuming it goes up at midnight (which tbh, I doubt), it's midnight in Japan in 6 hours.

Gradon · May 23, 2022

Diogo Arez said:
Nintendo does? I honestly don't remember the option, then again I only played SNES games on the service, not the N64 ones

Yeah the N64 versions. Actually NES & SNES are all just NTSC aren't they? I guess more N64 games support more languages.

MondoMega · May 23, 2022

Diogo Arez said:
Nintendo does? I honestly don't remember the option, then again I only played SNES games on the service, not the N64 ones

The N64 app includes the PAL versions for games that have multiple language support (if it was always just English there isn't much of a point so they're left out). Really something they should include for select games in the NES and SNES apps too; even the Zelda Game & Watch includes Link's Awakening in German and French in addition to the standard English and Japanese, so maybe Game Boy will have that when those games arrive.

Diogo Arez · May 23, 2022

Gradon said:
Yeah the N64 versions. Actually NES & SNES are all just NTSC aren't they? I guess more N64 games support more languages.

I think so, at least the ones I played didn't have any of the usual PAL slowdown.

MondoMega said:
The N64 app includes the PAL versions for games that have multiple language support (if it was always just English there isn't much of a point so they're left out). Really something they should include for select games in the NES and SNES apps too; even the Zelda Game & Watch includes Link's Awakening in German and French in addition to the standard English and Japanese, so maybe Game Boy will have that when those games arrive.

Oh that's really nice

Akuma-san メカ豪鬼 · May 23, 2022

Neil98 said:
At what time will we get a games lineup? I'm more interested in that tbh

Storm said:
Assuming it goes up at midnight (which tbh, I doubt), it's midnight in Japan in 6 hours.

From the blog post

As part of the rollout of our new service, we will start transitioning members' accounts on 23 May and expect the process to be completed for all members by the end of the day on 24 May in Asia. We are eager to provide this new service to our fans, and we hope you'll enjoy the curated catalog of games when it launches!

Mung · May 23, 2022

Neil98 said:
At what time will we get a games lineup? I'm more interested in that tbh

I'm just pleased that the effort is there with features.

Launch line up looks fine to me, and will likely grow with time.

Witter · May 23, 2022

Never played Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima or Demon's Soul's so this lineup of games is amazing for me

nolifebr · May 23, 2022

PS1 games on Asian PSN for $5-9, includes CRT Filter, Rewind, Trophies Optional, Scaling, Screenshots

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