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PS5 vs Xbox: Anti Consumer vs Consumer Friendly
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Its actually crazy how much has reversed from the start of current gen. Now Xbox is the more powerful, cheaper, smaller console with the more consumer-friendly image. Sony looks bad after yesterday especially for basically admitting they agree with MS' crossgen vision but mislead fans to think otherwise. People are rightfully pissed.
Playstation is Sony, if the division fails the company of Sony will be massively hurt vs for Xbox which is a tiny project for MS. MS can afford to take massive losses in order to be "pro consumer" because it doesn't hurt there quarter to quarter bottom line. If Sony decided to take massive losses to be more "pro consumer" they could hurt their investor bottom line. I don't agree with much of Sony does and as a business relying on one division is what lead them here but if it was up to Sony the gaming market would be the same as it was in 2002, Xbox usually innovates more than them because they can afford to take more risk.
What is making people think that ms isnt going to follow the rest of the industry and make next-gen games more expensive as well?
I completely forgot about the XB1 originally being an online-only system -- by far the worst part of the system not allowing used games. He truly did his best to pile drive the Xbox brand into the dirt.
You committed the ultimate cardinal sin Sony, you got personal. You, as a team of professionals trying to make money, got personal. You got personal and decided to insult your playbase, selling $70 games and going live early. Not a wise move.
We won't forget this. You've set a new tone for the kind of interaction we'll be having with you. It's a cold one. One where there aren't any illusions about the reality of the situation. Previous notions of "family" are dead. We are mere consumers to you, and that is obvious.
You have chosen to bring in a new era of hostility and bitterness. Well done. Great PR move.
We won't forget this. You've set a new tone for the kind of interaction we'll be having with you. It's a cold one. One where there aren't any illusions about the reality of the situation. Previous notions of "family" are dead. We are mere consumers to you, and that is obvious.
You have chosen to bring in a new era of hostility and bitterness. Well done. Great PR move.
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MS is forcing people to buy a controller with no additional other than 1 button (that is optional). Many also got Elite controller and have no need for a new controller. At least Sony is giving people something new and much better value.
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I love comments like these. Productive.
I would disagree. PS4 just took advantage of Microsoft absolutely shitting the bed. They were the cheaper console, but that was pretty much the only thing they did. I would also agree that now is the best time to be an Xbox fan as Microsoft is HUNGRY.
This is why competition is great.
Microsoft Rewards means that for many people it does cost nothing outside of the five minutes of opportunity cost each day to earn points.
Why does everyone think these companies are your friends?
Pre-orders were a bit sloppy, okay. More expensive games from WWS is fine. You'll get the complete game with no MTX bullshit and it's always a very solid experience. Game development gets longer and gets more exensive. It's just the way the world works. Video game business is no different from any other form of business.
Pre-orders were a bit sloppy, okay. More expensive games from WWS is fine. You'll get the complete game with no MTX bullshit and it's always a very solid experience. Game development gets longer and gets more exensive. It's just the way the world works. Video game business is no different from any other form of business.
It all comes down to the games. In that regard it's a night and day difference when we compare exclusives in the first 12 months. Of course we won't talk about how MS charges for f2p....
Originally no (it was a reddit post on apex legends subreddit) here yes I'm being sarcastic.
I feel pretty satisfied as a consumer. I get my PS4 upgrade for the same price I paid for a PS4 back in 2013. And feel way more confident in the swathe of first party games I'll get to play on the console. Easy buy.
And lucky for me, Xbox announced a $300 Gamepass machine. Will let me play with all of my Xbox friends online, and get to experience all of the games for one monthly fee.
Fully loaded with launch games, mic, etc for less than $1000 total. I really can't complain.
And lucky for me, Xbox announced a $300 Gamepass machine. Will let me play with all of my Xbox friends online, and get to experience all of the games for one monthly fee.
Fully loaded with launch games, mic, etc for less than $1000 total. I really can't complain.
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It was genius marketing on Sony's part making people think Xbox was the only console making cross gen games, but it was a complete lie.
While the intent of the thread looks like console warring.
I really think that Gamepass is a good idea, and that other companies will follow given time.
Also, provides the best experience to the user for the money spent.
I really think that Gamepass is a good idea, and that other companies will follow given time.
Also, provides the best experience to the user for the money spent.
Will little Timmy's grandma be able to know what he means when he asks her for the "Consumer Friendly" or "Anti-Consumer" Console this fall?
Sony just announced Miles Morales and Horizon 2 for 120 million PS4 players.
Sony is also more pro-consumer than Microsoft.
Sony is also more pro-consumer than Microsoft.
For 1 Sony game I can buy 8 months of gamepass. So yeah, relatively speaking it costs nothing.
thats what i was figuring lmao. People are way to into this tribalism with consoles man lol. these things are gonna sell out and do well end of the day.
I came to realise that most consumers do not know what anti-consumer means and they should really stop throwing that word around.
Neither Microsoft nor Sony are anti-consumer or pro-consumer. Both want to maximise their profits and have set out different ways to do this. Both strategies come with benefits and drawbacks.
Neither Microsoft nor Sony are anti-consumer or pro-consumer. Both want to maximise their profits and have set out different ways to do this. Both strategies come with benefits and drawbacks.
Agreed, this thread isn't going to go well for OP.
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This thread is not about any of those things. It is about shitty practices and positive practices. When Xbox One was announced NEOGAF was literally in flames. I think this forum should be about having discussions about things like this WITHOUT everyone just typing in "OMG CONSOLE WARRING"...you are making it that, I am not.
The preorder debacle was on the retailers who couldn't wait a day. I collect figures and NONE of the retailers are reliable for pre-orders accept Amazon. It's always a mess, this has little to do with Sony. The XSX will have the same issues.
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