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PSA: Potential Issues with the Sony X900H/X9000H/XH90/X90CH and Next Gen Gaming

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Captainslow

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Dec 3, 2020
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Just to be clear so that I know that I'm not doing anything wrong. When I set my TV to VRR and I enable it on my PS5 HDR doesn't seem to work. It's like it's overly grey (or something). Disabling VRR on the TV and turning it off on the PS5 makes things a lot better. Is this one of the issues with the TV in that it cannot support VRR + HDR at the same time? I think I read that in a post but I may have misunderstood.
 
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Yautja_Warrior

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just upgraded my XH90 for it's 2022 replacment, the X90K (X94K UK Model - £300 off in the sales) so I can finally enjoy VRR with Local Dimming and no Half Resolution @ 4k /120fps.

The XH90 is still a really good TV, cannot fault the picture quality, it will make a great spare TV for the bedroom but it's flaws (thanks to it's chipset) stopped it being a really great all rounder when it came to gaming at higher framerates.
 
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dgco86

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Captainslow said:
Just to be clear so that I know that I'm not doing anything wrong. When I set my TV to VRR and I enable it on my PS5 HDR doesn't seem to work. It's like it's overly grey (or something). Disabling VRR on the TV and turning it off on the PS5 makes things a lot better. Is this one of the issues with the TV in that it cannot support VRR + HDR at the same time? I think I read that in a post but I may have misunderstood.
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I'm guessing it's because local dimming is disabled when the VRR profile is selected.

Yautja_Warrior said:
I just upgraded my XH90 for it's 2022 replacment, the X90K (X94K UK Model - £300 off in the sales) so I can finally enjoy VRR with Local Dimming and no Half Resolution @ 4k /120fps.

The XH90 is still a really good TV, cannot fault the picture quality, it will make a great spare TV for the bedroom but it's flaws (thanks to it's chipset) stopped it being a really great all rounder when it came to gaming at higher framerates.
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Haven't been keeping up, but does the X90K really supported everything the X900H should have without compromises?
 
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Yautja_Warrior

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dgco86 said:
I'm guessing it's because local dimming is disabled when the VRR profile is selected.



Haven't been keeping up, but does the X90K really supported everything the X900H should have without compromises?
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Yep the issues are fixed when it comes to VRR with Local Dimming and 4K @ 120Hz Full Resolution because the X90K has the newer XR chip in it. 2022 Sony Bravia TV's (and 2021 Models too, like the X90J) didn't have the problem the 2020 XH90 / X900H did because of the new chip.
 
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Z Y

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Oct 27, 2017
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Savinowned said:
Why do people buy Sony TVs
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I've owned a 900E, 950G and currently have a 95k. They are successively the best TVs I've ever owned. And I also have an LG C1 to compare them too.

Basically they are big, bright, accurate and handle motion very well. I sit far enough away that their main flaw (blooming) is a non factor for me. Hope that helps.
 
GeezyAF

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Haven't seen the thread active in a while, but I will say that I still get my TV freezing and rebooting on internal apps. I'm not going to factory reset the TV again, so I'm thinking about just getting an Apple TV instead.

Almost bought that 65" C1 Amazon deal yesterday to replace this damn thing lol.
 
Couleurs

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GeezyAF said:
Haven't seen the thread active in a while, but I will say that I still get my TV freezing and rebooting on internal apps. I'm not going to factory reset the TV again, so I'm thinking about just getting an Apple TV instead.

Almost bought that 65" C1 Amazon deal yesterday to replace this damn thing lol.
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Yeah I've been getting reboots multiple times per day on my x90CH for a while now, mainly when using streaming apps. I've had so many issues with this damn thing over the two years I've had it. I'm definitely going for an LG oled for my next tv.
 
Grips

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Oct 5, 2020
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Oh hey x900h community!
My TV still working fine and no crashes, sadly seems like VRR and 4k 120hz will never have local dimming.
 
NeoChaos

NeoChaos

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Oct 28, 2017
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Nor will 120hz be full resolution.

As I mentioned in the main TV thread, I got a B2 yesterday primarily to replace the X900H I got two years ago. Fantastic set for every other use but for gaming it's a disappointment.
 
OnanieBomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I read there was an issue with "frame skipping" or something on this tv when watching blu rays on PS5. I also thought I read it was patched. But I was watching a studio ghibli film on blu ray yesterday and there was nasty skipping whenever a frame scrolled to the side.

Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is this a thing?
 
Brando

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Oct 25, 2017
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Euro updates notes from Reddit:

Adds support for the TV Channel Editor for BRAVIA mobile app

Fixes a bug where the TV was not displaying the channel properly when waking from sleep mode

Fixes an issue where the TV did not display the channel properly when changing channels with a certain carrier (France only)

Fixes an issue where the TV randomly restarts while watching some content

Improves TV security
 
UraMallas

UraMallas

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Nov 1, 2017
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This isn't REALLY gaming related but thought I'd ask since we have a lot of X900 owners here.

I have the X900E hooked up to my XSX and the last two days when I turn on the XSX the actual TV itself keeps trying to launch the VUDU app and it just flickers up and off with the VUDU app screen over and over again. It's not the XSX's VUDU app, it's definitely the TV's app. You can't make it stop, either. The remote doesn't work because every time it tries to launch the app it just kicks you out of whatever menu you were trying to access.

Anybody know what the deal is and if there is a fix?
 
//ARCANUM

//ARCANUM

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Oct 25, 2017
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UraMallas said:
This isn't REALLY gaming related but thought I'd ask since we have a lot of X900 owners here.

I have the X900E hooked up to my XSX and the last two days when I turn on the XSX the actual TV itself keeps trying to launch the VUDU app and it just flickers up and off with the VUDU app screen over and over again. It's not the XSX's VUDU app, it's definitely the TV's app. You can't make it stop, either. The remote doesn't work because every time it tries to launch the app it just kicks you out of whatever menu you were trying to access.

Anybody know what the deal is and if there is a fix?
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Wow that's wild. Can you delete the Vudu app and does that help?
 
TJ_Electronica

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Nov 14, 2017
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UraMallas said:
This isn't REALLY gaming related but thought I'd ask since we have a lot of X900 owners here.

I have the X900E hooked up to my XSX and the last two days when I turn on the XSX the actual TV itself keeps trying to launch the VUDU app and it just flickers up and off with the VUDU app screen over and over again. It's not the XSX's VUDU app, it's definitely the TV's app. You can't make it stop, either. The remote doesn't work because every time it tries to launch the app it just kicks you out of whatever menu you were trying to access.

Anybody know what the deal is and if there is a fix?
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Can you turn off the HDMI CEC? I think it's called Bravia Sync in Sony terms.
 
UraMallas

UraMallas

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It seems to have fixed itself for the past two days when I turn it on. But I will try these recommendations if it continues. I don't want to mess with it quite yet until something goes wrong again.
 
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derFeef

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Oct 26, 2017
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I can't install this new update via USB, weird. The last one worked, this it just says "can't use this USB disk for update" or something similar
 
//ARCANUM

//ARCANUM

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Oct 25, 2017
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im on whatever the update that first fixed the 23.98 bug was. after living with the tv for a YEAR with frame flashes constantly, I'm never trying another update now that it *works*. I'm very lucky that I'm not getting any restarts or anything. Never upgrading again.
 
DC5remy

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//ARCANUM said:
im on whatever the update that first fixed the 23.98 bug was. after living with the tv for a YEAR with frame flashes constantly, I'm never trying another update now that it *works*. I'm very lucky that I'm not getting any restarts or anything. Never upgrading again.
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I've only had the restarts on Disney plus. Never once while playing a game. It's on fresh updates and without issues.
 
boomshakalaka622

boomshakalaka622

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Mar 6, 2021
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I bought the five year warranty with this tv and am hoping it fails at some point. The no local dimming with VRR and audio drops when using my sound bar in surround mode that has plagued my tv since I purchased it left a sour taste in my mouth. Sony customer service will tell you that the lack of full resolution is normal too even after sending in pictures and videos. I will probably go with LG next time around which is a shame because I really liked my precious tv from Sony.
 
LetsEatSnacks

LetsEatSnacks

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Oct 18, 2020
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Has anyone tried the new PS5 firmware beta with this tv? I just got a code for it but won't have a chance to try it for a few days. Just curious if this improves anything with VRR/ anything else noticeable.
 
Blanquito

Blanquito

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Oct 28, 2017
1,189
I have it but don't have VRR running as most of the games I play don't really support it.

No issues so far
 
canonj

canonj

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Oct 27, 2017
392
I've long disconnected my TV from the Internet. I forget which version I'm on, but it runs perfectly for me, so no need to mess things up.
 
MisterB_66

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'll download it, probably won't notice anything different because I've been happy with the set for a very long time (outside the remote dpad getting crunchy like something got underneath the buttons).
 
Craiji

Craiji

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May 26, 2018
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I offer my TV as sacrifice! Updating now, as I have been running into the black screen problem a bunch.

I do NOT use any of the apps on the TV and use an Apple TV instead, so wont be able to give much feedback there.
 
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