Razer Brazil just cut ties with a female influencer because she talked back to harassers [read threadmarks and see staff post before posting]

Yuuber

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Oct 28, 2017
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I mean, are people really taking a statetement like that literally?

It is pretty obvious how it is aimed to the toxic average male gamer

Are we REALLY going to pretend "ALL MEN ARE TRASH" is discrimination? Like holy shit

Poor marginalized gamer men! :(
Hahahaha, yeah. How are people taking offense at this? How can we deny the average male gamer is toxic and sexist as fuck?

She's not saying every single one of us is trash.
 

Trace

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Oct 25, 2017
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The implication is "men who harass women are trash" not "literally every man who has ever existed is trash", come on now.

Some of ya'll need to chill, she isn't insulting you unless you harass women online in which case you deserve to be called trash.
 

Rosebud

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Apr 16, 2018
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The funny part is that this kind of men always say stuff like "everything is offensive these days, let me have fun!!"

But a woman say "men are trash" to stalkers and OUTRAGE
 
Gabi's comments, translated

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
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To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:

Her original tweet (direct translation below):



"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."






- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."


She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.
 

Plutone

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nothing wrong with what she said. Shame on Razer for doing this bullshit.

Also yeah, men are trash.
 

ThomasJames

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Shouldn't be surprising that if you offend the customer base of a company sponsoring you, it's in their best interest to stop sponsoring you. I think she's entirely in the right here, but in capitalism the financial incentive to behave morally only matters to your bottom line insofar as it matters to your customers, and in the case of Razer I kinda doubt their base of 12-35 year old gamers is going to be particularly feminist.

And lol at anyone taking "personal offense" to anything she said.
 

RecRoulette

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, are people really taking a statetement like that literally?

It is pretty obvious how it is aimed to the toxic average male gamer

Are we REALLY going to pretend "ALL MEN ARE TRASH" is discrimination? Like holy shit

Poor marginalized gamer men! :(
I can't tell if those people taking offense to it are joking or not, and it doesn't seem like they're joking.

Sometimes Era isn't as different from the rest of the internet as you think.
 

Bard

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow so there's a NOT ALL MEN defense brigade here too? Way to make her point guys lol.

Fuck Razer.
 

dyst

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User banned (Permenant): Consistent history of misogyny and inflammatory false equivalencies surrounding sexism; previous severe infractions.
Do not generalize an entire group of people.
 

Mezati99

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Wait she’s right though
where's the lie tho? men ARE trash.
And she is not even wrong LMAO

This is ridiculous

I didnt think this was going to blow out like this. I saw it yesterday on Facebook and I was like "LOL men are so fucking fragile".

I cant believe Razor did this.





you're wrong tho, All women are trash


now let's see who gets the ban hammer, come on mods, prove me wrong
 

DaciaJC

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She did not say every man is trash. Her tweet was more in the line of "Men are trash, and the ones who are not are the exception". Her tweet said, in direct translation, "Men are trash". It's a generalization based on her experience with harassment in the gaming community, which is something we all know the sordid details, and was the context of the tweet.
I appreciate the clarification.

I mean, are people really taking a statetement like that literally?

It is pretty obvious how it is aimed to the toxic average male gamer
It's unfortunate, then, that she didn't address specifically those people instead of painting everyone with the same brush, resulting in an easily misconstrued condemnation. Yes, surprise surprise, your choice of words means a great deal in how your message is received.
 

Shizuka

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just when you think you've seen it all, men get together to fight "discrimination" like this. What's next, white people claiming there's no such thing as white privilege?
 

2San

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Oct 28, 2017
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Sometimes I wonder how it must feel to have such a brittle spirit that a comment like that gives you the urge to harras somone. Razer is weak as hell, wish I could boycott them, but their gear is trash, so I didn't buy their stuff anyway.
 

Oluasc

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That's the source post for contextualization.


Zogek:
Well Gabi don't generalize :(
Gabi:
I Need. When you say this kind of thing, comes the guys "Oh but don't generalize, it's not everybody" And at the first opportunity they're asshole with woman. Man who is not a SHIT is an exception, not a majority. You have to generalize even to see if those motherfuckers wake up.
*Quick translation.*
 

Pancoar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trash ass company that makes tacky trash products.

Oh those poor oppressed fragile male gamers, how terrible their plight is, let me pull out my violin and play them a song...

And LMAO people in here really going #NotAllMen. Typical.
 

Landford

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Oct 25, 2017
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To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:

Her original tweet (direct translation below):



"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."





- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."


She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.
Exactly what she said is now translated and in context. People should read this before any hot take.
 

test_account

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Oct 25, 2017
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To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:

Her original tweet (direct translation below):



"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."





- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."


She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.
Do you have link to the apologies as well?
 

axo_tio

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As a man I don't really care what some random person on twitter says about men.
But as a user of this forum I find really embarrasing the amount of hypocrisy and double standards in many of the replies here, even with mods on the thread.
 

Ragnorok64

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Nov 6, 2017
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To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:

Her original tweet (direct translation below):



"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."





- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."


She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.
Thank you for providing screen caps, translations, and actually useful information.
 

Ragnite

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The second paragraph from that statement straight up looks like a post from /r/GamersRiseUp. Can't believe a brand would unironically post that lmao
 
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Can't want for somebody to compile a list of blatantly sexist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobe Razer's male influencers have said.
 

Landford

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Oct 25, 2017
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Digging through her tweets, there seems to be another female streamer just straight-up pandering to the alt-right scum by attacking her.
 

Memento

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As a man I don't really care what some random person on twitter says about men.
But as a user of this forum I find really embarrasing the amount of hypocrisy and double standards in many of the replies here, even with mods on the thread.
This is so bullshit. Stop being passive aggressive and just say what you want.
 

Stop It

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wtf are y'all talking about? Certainly some of you that I'm quoting must be male. Do you consider yourself trash?
When I know what men have done in history to women, especially when challenged to you know, not be trash? Damn straight.

You can't be pissed and pull a #notallmen when a women faces harassment just because of her job, which incidentally happened to be entertaining these fragile fuckwits. The same fragile fuckwits who respond to being called trash with death threats.

Pulling the gamers has oppressed card unironically is also trash. Nothing here disproves her point. She's the victim here and yet we still have people going "but she's so mean!".

That attitude is also trash. Don't want the label? Tell another fellow man to not be trash every day until they stop.
 

Nikus

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Oct 25, 2017
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As a man I don't really care what some random person on twitter says about men.
But as a user of this forum I find really embarrasing the amount of hypocrisy and double standards in many of the replies here, even with mods on the thread.
One group of people faces daily harrasment and discrimination. The other doesn't. So, we can live with a bit of double standard. Also, context.
 

Eylos

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Oct 25, 2017
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when you do a generalization you are not talking about every single one, you are talking about the group that is dominant or the message is destined to. when i say "men should stop being misogynists", there's men that are not, so its clear that i'm talking to a group of men, its pretty clear that she's saying that to men that harass women and its a big group of men.
 

Pancoar

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you get offended by her statement, you are indeed the problem.

It's as simple as that.
 
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The Last One

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Oct 25, 2017
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To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:

Her original tweet (direct translation below):



"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."





- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."


She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.