He worked behind the scenes. A lot of the staff work isn't about making (shit)posts, you know.
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ResetEra Ownership Update
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I mean I was a mod for a year and a half. Should I be entitled to it because I was there at the beginning? Should someone who JUST resigned a week ago be entitled to a piece of the pie?
Like I said, there's just too many logistical ways this could shake out that would make it a gigantic headache. Co-ops are not easy to organize or manage.
I close those all the time without reading them, I prefer a pin.
It's weird that there weren't bylaws established in the LLC that required the other owners' shares be offered to the community first, or to prevent majority ownership by a single entity, etc.
Why should any of us suffer fools gladly when other posters can and have made the argument for paying moderators without such ridiculous comparisons? It's low effort content and the user in question didn't bother to expand in a meaningful way in their follow-up replies.
But surely they thought they were playing chess on a mobius strip as they served up a back-handed compliment comparing volunteer moderators to slaves because they didn't band together for pay.
Oh snap, a cooking discord could be fun, didn't know we had an OT.
You and I share the same feelings and thoughts on all this.
These forums had tremendous promise when it began, there was so much excitement to get it right, to do better. With the recent loss of SalesEra among a few other communities and how that was handled, and now all information being divulged about the sale and how said information was released, what an overall disappointment this site has become. In such a sort time span to boot.
Having worked as a volunteer in a supportive fashion,
Cannot be said better than this.
I see what you mean, but I guess the way I see it is that the maintainers of the community deserve to be paid rather than all revenue going to reddit.
For any subreddit, we're not visiting the website because of reddit employees past their service of infrastructure hosting and continuous development of the platform.
The time that moderators spend on forums can become a significant part of their lives.
And I just find it distasteful that it all goes towards a valuation for investors.
I think with your example, I think that's a conundrum that a lot of people in similar positions with control over businesses or communities may face.
Whether to stick to their founding principles or "sell out"
I think that choice deserves to be theirs's especially on reddit where anyone can create a new subreddit at a click of a button.
How very considerate of them.
Fortunately for us, we don't have to depend on their good will:
"First, if you process the personal data of EU citizens or residents, or you offer goods or services to such people, then the GDPR applies to you even if you're not in the EU.
Second, the fines for violating the GDPR are very high. There are two tiers of penalties, which max out at €20 million or 4% of global revenue (whichever is higher), plus data subjects have the right to seek compensation for damages."
I joined to post in that thread, I think, along with some local community stuff, but I didn't post as much as I planned.
It's hard to find cooking places were folks don't get hypercritical. There's a cooking thread on my old man forum, but it's not that active.
Yeah. I closed it by instinct and ended up having to open the website in incognito in order to find this thread
But you can work behind the scenes and still have some kind of visible presence. I can't tell you nothing about the guy. Not what games he like. Nothing. Not even something simple. I've been on Era since day one and I've met some cool people here and I can EASILY name several people and what kinda games and movies they like or whatever. I'm just saying that visibility matters. Interacting matters. Having a good time with others matters. Jumping in during a shitstorm and making peace matters.
Uh, excuse me Hecht, we know the deal here. This is all a ploy to get you on the cover of Vogue, to get your name screamed by adoring fans from the rooftops.
Yeah very strange.
But maybe these talks did take place with the admins, and nothing came of it. In which case I at least understand why the sale happened the way it did.
no idea how to make a discord channel but id be down to try it. just the cooking OT isnt as active as it used to be and being a chef i wasnt able to post my work as often as i would have liked 😞
I guess I'm not looking at it as a "piece of the pie". I was thinking more along the lines of "going forward". Trusted Admins/Mods from the beginning should have had an opportunity to form a board that could take over the responsibilities of running the site if it was getting to be too much for the owner. They could have decided how to keep it running at not for profit levels by either reducing ads, or paying out board members and temp Mods to keep profits to zero.
If you make a Cooking-Era Discord I'd be interested. I didn't even know there was an OT for it.
4 years? I joined almost 3 years ago, and I thought this place had already been around for ages, since it was already a huge community
Maybe he likes Final Fantasy?
I just want to know a few things about him.
His favorite beer.
What he does when he has his favorite beer.
And is it Budweiser?
I've been on multiple forums that went through this process.
MOBA network can say whatever they want now, but in the long run they are running a business and will do what is necessary to ensure that their business remains profitable. If that means fucking with Era then that's what they'll do.
I feel like basically every corporate buyout/merger in the history of ever requires the one meeting where the old owners reassure the general population that the new owners love us and what we're doing! They bought us because they want us, not to change us into them! They don't have any plans to alter our operations beyond integrating us into the larger family, but it won't meaningfully change our day to day!
It's almost never actually the case, it's just a mandatory step in the buyout process. After you've been through a couple, nobody really believes it anymore, just gotta keep up appearances to ward off panic.
Discord seems like a good place as you can post pictures directly.
That's because the community came from NeoGAF. After that forum's owner turned out to be a shithead, everyone left and Cerium and co. created this forum for them.
Actually, funny enough this banner is extremely small compared to most announcement banners. I barely even noticed it when the other banners are usually unavoidable.
Like we can have huge paragraph banners for dumb gaming polls but this gets like a 5 word banner.
That's because the community was already established on another site and this one was brought online basically overnight as a life boat for the sinking ship of the other site.
Alternatively, analogies in serious conversations are counterproductive 99% of the time and the outcome is usually that it would have been easier for everyone to spell things out for what they are rather than spend 50 posts debating the analogy. If you know your audience won't get your analogy, don't use one and say what you exactly mean.
Pffft who reads those, I just ignore them and will then claim it's not my fault
This happened non-ironically lol
I have stopped speedrunning years ago so I didn't know that SR.com was sold off but this explains why the site felt so different when I visited it a while ago for the first time since years.
because it formed with a huge split from GAF. Look at users' join dates. I bet you see a ton of them all from late Oct 2017
What risk? Like 70-80% of GAF came over and even before that split we knew Evillore was making a ton of money from the forum. This forum was always going to make loads of money from ad revenue.
The mistake was allowing the forum to be owned by one person in the first place, should have not happened and I'm actually surprised we let it happen so easily.
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This is the beginning of the end, some people see it for what it is, but most are (understandably) still in a denial faze.The dream is over.
This does worry me, and more than that, makes me a little sad. No gods, no masters. Still, I hope everything works out as well as it can in these circumstances. I don't want the spirit of this site to change
I hope things don't change too much, but I'll stick around until they do
If you make one, send an invite my way! I didn't even know we had a cooking OT
You sure still have a lot pent up huh. Good thing you're not a mod anymore.
It would probably be helpful if you could outline how MOBA is going to achieve the revenue goals it mentions in the press release given the moderators and admins seem to be under the impression nothing will change.
Because that's literally impossible.
Some of y'all are being so dramatic. And I say this as someone who regularly gets up on stage and does monologues and ridiculously melodramatic songs.
Meh, a forum being sold doesn't mean anything by itself. If shit starts changing for the worse then it'll be time to actually worry but this by itself? Nah.
Cerium made off with a good chunk of change though. Capitalism at its finest, I can't be mad.
Cerium made off with a good chunk of change though. Capitalism at its finest, I can't be mad.
BoyAJ knew this. It's why he tried to buy in, but they didn't let him put cash in during the formation for an ownership stake.
He's also offered to help fund a new forum if that is the way this all goes.
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