Reshade mod general discussion
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Path traced from the buffer using an injector. It is not like Metro's triangular or the recent Minecraft one.
It's raytracing with some limitations since it's being injected.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-crysis-ray-tracing-co-op-extreme-modding
Some of the comparison pics show some decent improvements, although not quite as much as some other implementations, like Minecraft. Would be cool to see how it affects cartoony type games, like Minecraft or World of Warcraft. I saw that someone recently imported Warcraft assets to another program and did a mockup of pathtracing in a certain area (with some material changes to work better with RT), and it went from looking cartoony to CG-like:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bfzsk1/raytraced_flythrough_of_boralus/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bfzsk1/raytraced_flythrough_of_boralus/
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Youtube really destroyed the IQ of this, plus the low resolution being used to begin with doesn't do it any favors.
I'm a huge RT fan but I'm not sure I like the downsides of doing it in screenspace. I'm also not a huge SSR fan either though, I just don't like screenspace artifacts in general.
I'm a huge RT fan but I'm not sure I like the downsides of doing it in screenspace. I'm also not a huge SSR fan either though, I just don't like screenspace artifacts in general.
Can't wait to get my hands on this. I've been experimenting for a while with an SSGI solution for my own FF14 Reshade, but this has the potential of pulling off what I want way better.
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Can someone post A/B comparison pics here, vid quality is bad and the DF comparison tool is horrific on mobile
Screen-space for certain (which the video points out a lot), but hey, I think it is an ultra neat replacement for standard SSAO. Especially in older games.
It also probably has a great additive effect to those games that have extreme baked lighting.
BTW - Crysis is a game that actually has an open/editable shaders. So this mod coud technically have a native implementation and function much much better.
That's a neat effect, but I think it darkens foliage too much since it doesn't seem to let light through. It also seemed to have some weird contrast effect on textures with John.
Those old GTA games would benefit immensely. They are the epitome of weird unlit boxy looking games which benefit a ton from stuff like this.
Can it run Crysis x666
ed: below post - Well I'll be damned! Thanks Alex for sharing those amazing HL2 shots from John!
ed: below post - Well I'll be damned! Thanks Alex for sharing those amazing HL2 shots from John!
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I used bloom on my video side to show off the shader pack, but it is really not overwhelming, I turned it a bit above basic crysis levels more or less. The SSGI does look a bit bloomy in crysis, it is just how it works there really ! Not always, but at times it looks a bit overlayed.
It probably works better in games that have less messed up depth bufffer access - just we could not pass up the opportunity to doa video on crysis coop and around the anniversary of my original Crysis video.
These shots are courtesy of Dark1x
Quite obvious in video that the SSGI gets over darkened when ray shoots out of screen or behind object.
I wonder how well it would work when invalid paths could leverage ambient probes and possibly get complete path to light. (Basically thinking probe content as lightsource.)
Anyway quite awesome and should be lovely for some games.
I wonder if Doom3 would work. (It certainly would be amazing one with proper RTGI.)
I wonder how well it would work when invalid paths could leverage ambient probes and possibly get complete path to light. (Basically thinking probe content as lightsource.)
Anyway quite awesome and should be lovely for some games.
Anything with moving lights with shadows should be great..
I wonder if Doom3 would work. (It certainly would be amazing one with proper RTGI.)
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Amazing stuffI used bloom on my video side to show off the shader pack, but it is really not overwhelming, I turned it a bit above basic crysis levels more or less. The SSGI does look a bit bloomy in crysis, it is just how it works there really ! Not always, but at times it looks a bit overlayed.
It probably works better in games that have less messed up depth bufffer access - just we could not pass up the opportunity to doa video on crysis coop and around the anniversary of my original Crysis video.
These shots are courtesy of Dark1x
Can someone quickly explain how this works / does it work for all games and is there a heavy performance penalty?
I used bloom on my video side to show off the shader pack, but it is really not overwhelming, I turned it a bit above basic crysis levels more or less. The SSGI does look a bit bloomy in crysis, it is just how it works there really ! Not always, but at times it looks a bit overlayed.
It probably works better in games that have less messed up depth bufffer access - just we could not pass up the opportunity to doa video on crysis coop and around the anniversary of my original Crysis video.
These shots are courtesy of Dark1x
The shadow cast by the character looks so unnatural and weird. Like a giant black blob as latched onto the character.
Oh look I'm going to play Half Life 2 yet again!I used bloom on my video side to show off the shader pack, but it is really not overwhelming, I turned it a bit above basic crysis levels more or less. The SSGI does look a bit bloomy in crysis, it is just how it works there really ! Not always, but at times it looks a bit overlayed.
It probably works better in games that have less messed up depth bufffer access - just we could not pass up the opportunity to doa video on crysis coop and around the anniversary of my original Crysis video.
These shots are courtesy of Dark1x
The main benefit of ray/path-tracing is the fact that we sample information from world-space and we're not limited to screen. SSRT is kinda meaningless because we can solve diffuse GI in screen space semi-analytically and a lot faster. Pure RT for screen space GI is unnecessary brute-force. For example
Technique from above video is already used in Path of Exile.
Plus paper for HBIL (horizon-based indirect lighting) has been out for a while now.
We'll probably see similar SS techniques for lighting in next gen games, just more elegant.
Interesting, well at least for now brute forcing it with Reshade might look good in some games, Dark Souls 2 perhaps, that game is so flat with it's lighting.
Didn't Crytek do something similar in the Crysis sequels by voxelising the depth buffer and approximating GI bounces with that? I remember some presentations of their tech.
edit: it wasn't this one, it was an earlier screen space based method
https://docs.cryengine.com/display/CEMANUAL/Voxel-Based+Global+Illumination
edit: it wasn't this one, it was an earlier screen space based method
https://docs.cryengine.com/display/CEMANUAL/Voxel-Based+Global+Illumination
Glob I need that shader for my ReShade stuff in Assetto Corsa, but I'm too broke to be a patron.
I love this guy, already worked on several games with mods he contributed for and it's glorious stuff.
I love this guy, already worked on several games with mods he contributed for and it's glorious stuff.
It's interesting how good it looks in stills, but also interesting watching how much the effect varies as things go off screen. I'll probably check this out on some of my favorite DX9/DX10/DX11 games.
Man, I love and miss this realistic look in games. Awesome texture art and quality, good and natural lighting. No overexposure, bloom bleeding, and excessive lens flare. And the superb image quality, of course (no CA, for that instance).
It's quite logical extension, we have seen tests on it from ~2008 and onward.
SSDO is a small area version, not sure what version later Crysis actually uses.
Quantum Break also had a variation of SSGI for small scale GI. (Unigine 2 also has something similar and it seems like UE4 will get it as well.)
I wonder if SSGI will become a complimentary to proper full scene GI methods, similar to what they did in Metro. (Use same rays in screenspace and in worldspace.)
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Screen-space for certain (which the video points out a lot), but hey, I think it is an ultra neat replacement for standard SSAO. Especially in older games.
It also probably has a great additive effect to those games that have extreme baked lighting.
BTW - Crysis is a game that actually has an open/editable shaders. So this mod coud technically have a native implementation and function much much better.
Nice, thanks!
Wish they would turn the bloom off in those, softens everything way too much
It needs to access the environment sky texture if it's a miss. They probably can't get to the environment sky from the depth buffer.. I hate screenspace algorithms. I'm glad they are going away.
Theres a weird ghosting effect, i think the calculations can't keep up + screen space limitations.
I am at work, why are some of you not trying this on some old games and posting screenshots for us? Lol